A discussion about Pig or why Amanda is the worst Killer to play against and needs to be nerfed

Please tell me this is a joke... if anything, pig needs a slight buff

Edit: just fell for this post sigh

Deathslinger? Second best stealth killer In the game? Yeah i’ve read enough

The amount you've got people to type is amazing, wish you were around when I was doing my dissertation op

Ah yes, one of the weakest Killers is too powerful. Maskes sense.

She needs a rework, not a nerf.

'I'm terrible against a killer so they must be nerfed into the ground'. Shes one of the weaker killers. I agree she's not fun to play against as I find myself spending long parts of the match trying to get her traps off.

That totem idea is just ridiculous though, noone would be in their right mind to cleanse a totem with a trap on their head making her power, which is all she's got to slow down the match, completely useless. Na try again class leader.

I stopped reading after you suggestion to change the rtbs. 🙄 Youd be negating her power and making it useless. What rank are you? 12?

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Personally, I think pig is a very luck heavy killer on both sides. She is arguably one of the worst killers in the game. Her hats are useless if survs get them off before a gen pops. My only question is, how many pigs have you gone against and what rank are you dude? Most pigs I go against in red ranks are probably as good as a rank 13 trapper with her power.

And another thing is, pigs stealth ability ISN'T the best in the game, it's probably GhostFace. Her dash does 0 to nothing in a chase, if a survivor actually uses their ears and eyes. Great noob stomper though. So maybe you should connect the dots ;)

Stopped at "RBT are the most RNG heavy" because they ARE NOT RNG.

When you get a trap, a key is put in a box. A specific box that doesnt move. It's up to YOUR GUESSING AND LUCK to pick correctly, not a roll of the dice per box.

The ONLY RNG is placing a key. Which is irrelevant because you dont see it or know. You still have to guess.

So suck it up and male your choice.

BOOP THE SNOOT

According to the data you presented, pig has a similar kill rate to every killer in the game aside from clown, spirit, freddy and billy. Three of those killers vastly outperform her and the other greatly underperforms, with every other killer averaging within 5% of her kill rate. This shows just how unimpressive that kill rate is, 3/4 survivors per game which most other killers also average.

Now to address your points;

I actually agree RBTs are too RNG heavy, most of the time they get removed within the first two boxes. Also overpresenting her RBT by dismissing the amount of effort and gen pressure you're giving up to down and trap a survivor is ridiculous. Pig gives up a chases worth of gen time to gain additional pressure using RBTs. I also agree that pig seeing the boxes is unfair, it's not even really needed for pig's pressure. RBTs activating on a totem cleanse is a ridiculous idea, it completely ignores the point of the power and circumvents the pressure of the trap entirely. Additionally, always securing on the furthest box is another dumb idea, I agree there should be a more consistent solution, but this isn't it. If the trap was guaranteed on a know box, those 4 traps will now last 20-40 seconds at most. 360 seconds with your other proposed changes is another stupid solution. For reference 360 seconds is enough time for a single survivor player to complete four generators with another 40 seconds for walking around. The traps lose all their pressure from being inactive until a survivor decides to activate it, the box is guaranteed and the traps last too long, you remove all power from the traps, and the pig player and lay it solely in the hands of not being a completely inept and moronic survivor player. Seriously, your "solution" would only make traps scary, not even lethal but scary, to survivors with less than an hours playtime.

Calling Pigs crouch the best stealth mechanic is really up for debate, I would argue ghost face's is better since he doesnt have the give any time or charge an attack but again, it's debatable. "So many different options... there's no way for the survivor to play around them all, negating counterplay" Her only options during a crouch are; charge, stand up and swing, fake a charge. That's not many options, and effectively using any of them requires a huge gamble of you knowing that survs playstyle. "When crouched, Pig looks like a Survivor" that's up to personal interpretation. She's too small and too fast when crouched to be a survivor, even if you thought it was an urban evader she's too wide to be a survivor anyway. Having the terror radius disappear with time isn't really that impactful, once again this ability only works if you as a survivor are unaware and inattentive. This is the first time I've ever heard the dash be called OP, what a joke. It's a mind game for one, and for two, 6.2m/s with no insta down and no pallet destruction isn't that strong. The only times a pig will even use this is when you're in a deadzone for BP or when you're camping a loop, you can entirely counterplay by just dropping a pallet or leaving the loop while she can't see you. Also TIL Deathslinger is a stealth killer and Bubba lost his title as ultimate camper.

Pig's crouch speed was purposefully buffed to be lower since it's stupid to make a killer take 2s to remove their ability to m1 for a chance at a mind game. 18m Terror radius is also a stupid idea, nerfing a killers counterplay to perks and stupid decision making isn't smart, also again you'll never think pig is a surv since you see both the jigsaw boxes and a shape too fast and too large to be an urban evader walking around. Nerfing dash by 2 metres a second would just make it useless, she'd become an m1 killer.

I'm not even going to address your addons list because it's getting boring writing a list of reasons why your ideas are very obviously overkill. To summarise the list tho, her addons are more awful than they are good. It says alot about a killer when her brown addons are objectively her best. Even the purple addons are inferior. The only addon above brown even worth running is amandas letter for obvious reasons, and that's only because it greatly assists in mindgaming loops.

I'd recommend getting Scorpionz to read this since as a piggy main, and a very good one, he's more apt to address this than me. But I guarantee you that your ideas are so ridiculously outlandish that most people will think you're baiting with alot of effort. At least go watch scorpionz to see the thought that goes into piggy.

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