What constitutes 'skill' for the mmr program?

I bet you're right, but it does make me wonder what that'll mean for killers that like to give the last survivor hatch. I still think a vanilla MMR system like you described would be better than what they have now, but they'll definitely have to be careful about what they're counting if they want ranking to accurately reflect skill.

For killer I agree with you, it's not that complicated. They just have to account for things like Moris and the killer you play. Survivor, on the other hand, is practically impossible to account for.

Let's say you are a trash survivor who drops 10 pallets in 2 minutes but sustain a long chase with the killer. Then a very good survivor gets downed instantly because there are no pallets left in the map. The 'algorithm' would think the bad survivor is better. There are so many things to account for in survivor skill that no algorithm BHVR could make would accurately depict skill.

They’ve already said that moris are on their radar, their days are numbered.

Apparently so. I’ll see if I can find the exact post.

Well, it's the same thing as saying that high skill matches will only contain survivors with BT, DS, Adrenaline and Sprint Burst

that's the only thing that makes it worth playing against a lobby that feels like it's gonna be one of those games. it's not like you have an endless supply, you might get about 7 of them into the 40s on good trees along the way. You're only gonna be able to replenish them if you dump every point you get into that same killer, and at level 50 that's a Lot of points it takes and you get less with a mori anyways those are just to blow off steam and keep some people willing to continue queueing as a killer. If you do that, you're not unlocking teachables elsewhere nor progressing any other character on either side of the fence. I honestly believe most of these sort of demands come from swf players in these types of games, as it's turned out often the case in the past with the most vocal ones.

If they ruin ebony mori, they need need a way to opt out of being matched against any swf that is bigger than a duo. Or you will see an eventual decline in people willing to play killer, I guarantee it especially after server side hit validation. The same sort of warning has been given repeatedly in other of these types of games, that when not heeded, has greatly diminished playerbase. I've seen a game more recently flatout die and loose most of it's playerbase after one bad patch for the killer side too many. No matter how many players a game has, no matter how addicted, they eventually come to realize that da nile ain't just a river in egypt and quit sooner or later if they don't just start playing the less stressful side exclusively which begins to worsen the queue times for the favored side. And those "good we're just fine without you" lines came in that other game too... but the last laugh was on them when I saw many of the same that were the first to say that then complaining about how long it took them finding a match after a while, and I laughed so hard at the irony. It looks like the other game that recently died attempted to 180 to a degree, and nobody came back from the last times I checked on it. It was too late. It can happen no matter how many players a game has, when both a history of patching and one really bad one-sided patch too many come along for an already stressed and fed up side of the game.

People play games, most do I assume, to stress less not stress more and pour more sweat into something that's supposed to be fun and a bit of an escape from that. If they're not having fun, and finally accept they aren't gonna ever, they will naturally will stop playing. The trick is making sure it doesn't become a cascade when it happens. That you don't run too many off at once impacting the queues and quality of matchmaking in a way that leads to even more wanting to leave. That's the point of no return there, since that seals a game's fate unless a miracle patch manages to save it quickly enough since nobody comes back to games once they leave them these days. They have short attention spans and there's too many games.

Just play to the best of your ability and don't worry about it. If it's not working properly, you'll definitely see it. Publicizing exactly how it works will just lead to people gaming the system, and nobody wants that.

Considering recent survey about different multiplayer games, I think devs still arguing about which system to use :P

I rly hope it's Elo cuz it's simple and effective <:

We haven't been told, which there's no reason for. which is why it's obvious they're just lying.

The rank disparities are a result of an uneven ratio of survivors to killers. that ratio is a result of BHVR's continued failure and refusal to balance the game in a way to make it fair and fun for killers, which causes killers to leave the game or play survivor instead.

since they won't fix this, they've simply come up with a lie so they can claim matchmaking is "fixed" due to an invisible algorithm that works in mysterious ways. it was pretty obvious this was going to happen a few months back, when those leaked patch notes reveled they were going to make ranks invisible in the final score screen, which they then recanted on and came up with this announcement.

I expect that eventually, they may even put up false rank number on the tally screen, so you're told that the strangers you played with were near or at your rank, when in fact they weren't. they'll just have to rig it to make SWFs all see the same false numbers, so as to hide the lie better. any discrepancy will be explained away as a "visual bug." Just like how the game currently has that bug where it claims you went up a completely different killer than you did, with no perks.

They dont want to reveal the actual metric, to avoid the problem of "deranking". IF people dont know what to do or fail for, they can´t activly manipulate their rating.

As for swf, i think they either give swf a rating boost, or just do a individual rating for the individual teams, in the beginning based on the member rating, then on performance (for that team). I read a comment from a dev that made me believe its something like that, but i have no idea where i read it.

There are a lot of things you can take to evaluate skill, kills and escaped being only the bottom, because they are most unreliable.

But i would use things like performance in chases, including time until hit or downed, pallets dropped during chase, ability to leave a chase unharmed (by jukeing for example).

I think for killers the finding of survivors and the chase might be the most important determinator, but might include if he switches targets, or other targets interfere (like with head on, flashlights) while survivors also have time not in chases, and how productive that time is, like doing gens, rescuing others, staying hidden, flashlight saves and a lot more.