With killer powers being as it is right now, looping will be non meta very soon.

I think a survivor being able to have a killer chase them to buy time for their team to finish gens should always be a legitimate strategy. Therefore "looping" should always be possible. However, looping shouldn't be as easy as it is. A survivor should have to be genuinely good to loop, but me, a baby survivor, can easily loop so many killers just because I know of some really good vault loops on some maps.

Survivors/killers don't need buffs/nerfs here. Maps just need to get rid of the really op loop locations. I'm not talking about really safe pallet loops. I'm talking about op vault loops that are guaranteed to be somewhere on the map. Like some easy haddonfield vaults, or crotus prenn asylum window vault from the building, or the wild west (don't know map name) stairs vault where it's just a set of stairs, straight path, and then a vault locations. These are all vaults that are almost impossible to mind game. You just have to chase until you catch up with your increase move speed buff as the chase goes on. Looping should not be based on op locations. It should be completely based on the skill of the survivor with some lucky pallets

Anything for less boring looping, as long as it's healthy (enough).

Sadly, it's that design that, for me, stops DbD from being anything but a very occasional game that I log into for a couple of matches, then go log into something else. Be it when playing killer or survivor, the goddamn looping, looping, looping is like playing a bad episode of the Benny Hill Show in a horror skin. It's boring.

buffing stealth should of been a thing month ago.

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Not that I mind Loopers, but every one of them in my personal experiences that is, seem to think it's untouchable tactics. I mean do all Loopers believe they wont get caught eventually? And when they do. In my personal experience, call out tunneling. I'm kinda glad there are killers who are anti loop. Hell sometimes when I feel confident I'm about to get a Looper, I let out the chase abit more and start singing to my self, "ring around the rosey, pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes *thwack!* ya all fall Down" 😝

Stealth is boring for you. That's what you mean, so say that. I don't find it boring at all. You don't even understand what stealth is if you think it's just holding Ctrl and standing still.

No, it's boring period. I'm fully aware how to avoid the killer stealthily and it's fun to do so occasionally, but it goes back to the same point; keep doing it and it's going to get boring.

You really think that if the meta shifts to stealth that people would still enjoy it for 500+ hours like a lot of the player base has? I brought up Hide or Die in my last point and I'll bring it up again, the game was centered around being stealthty and look how long it lasted. The simple fact of the matter is that not the type of game the majority of people want nor bought DbD for.

The biggest problem is every way a survivor loops or how he plays is different but stealth is really cookie cutter don't get in los and don't make noise. Stealth in this game is just not what experienced survivors usually play for, you'll alienate a decent margin while hoping it will attract others. If they reworked stealth to be more than hide behind this or just q&q over somewhere or in a locker then it could be a fun strat.

First of all I have to say that I agree with what they're trying to do. Even if loops aren't the main problem for killer right now it's one of them. Anyways you mentioned oni, who is an m1 killer until he gets his power, then you said gunslinger, ph and bubba but don't forget that these killers have zero map control and you can genrush them like hell.

I don't think adding pallets would make much sense considering that they are nerfing loops probably to give killers some time to do things.

I think they are trying to give killers time to do something, so making chases faster you can have more gen control and not be forced to tunnel and camp just because of gens speed.

Depends on what you mean by "looping". So many people boil down survivor gameplay to "running in circles" when, while it's true in some areas on a lot of maps, the majority of "looping" is a series of mindgames and 50/50s, and optimizing your resources. The half-loops everywhere on autohaven maps like the small junk loops in the middle of blood lodge should be kept to a minimum because that is just running in a circle and then hitting space to throw a pallet. No thought required. But a lot of people think that whole process is for EVERY loop and tile in the game which is just not true.

The only time a survivor is "running in a circle holding W" at jungle gyms, L-T walls etc is when the killer is doing the same thing and just playing with their brain switched off. The loop takes much longer than it should to be shut down by the killer, And then they come here or somewhere else to complain that survivors have way too much power and survivor is too easy, or whatever. Survivors are only playing that way because the killer is letting them, when they should be dictating how the chase plays out. Faking your red light, doubling back, running tiles counter clockwise instead of clockwise so the survivor doesn't get a fast vault etc.