THIS is the problem with gen speeds and early game.

1 survivor is 25% in a trial so everything below 75% is still within the average of 2 kills per trial.

maybe add another gen for them to do power the gates i mean there 4 survivors only have to do 5 gens but if they had to do 6 gen still may not change anything.

I didn't mean the disconnecters themselves but the 4ks that were the result of people disconnecting during a match. I remember there was a time where people would dc at 5 gens because they wanted to derank leaving me with 2 other randoms with 5 gens so it was pretty much a free win for the killer anyways.

thinking most of the AFKs, suicides, and disconnects are the most from playing doctor.

The game tends to halt at two gens usually. Once the killer gets the ball rolling, at least three people are on first hook, usually at least one is on death hook, and probably in a chase. Once one person dies(usually at two gens left, sometimes three, sometimes one), the game basically halts. You often end up with a constant rotation of one person being on hook, the other saving them, and a third being chased.

Usually. I find most of my matches end up that way, even if there's a rushed feeling. Often times it's rushed because everyone did three generators that were close together, leaving the last four pretty close together.

@Reinami don't go listing the hypothetical assumptions of how the game would have gone. That does nothing.

You never hard commit to the first survivor you see when they just run from one side of the map to the other. They are wasting their own time doing that, and ultimately yours if you follow them all that way. Who cares if they spend 16 seconds healing, you have to apply pressure to multiple survivors at the start of the match.

Ignoring the fact he had Surge, so logic would dictate he aim to keep chases near active gens so he can have passive regression when he gets a down nearby. Then he can carry them to an area not near an active gen so they have to waste their time going somewhere unimportant. (See, it's easy to describe a hypothetical situation)

Face it, you cannot say a killer played the match well when they have minimal pressure and made mistakes.

This game is all about time management, so, as killer, you need to know where your focus is most needed at what times. If you chase a good looper and you aim for strong pallet breaks and a hit then leave them alone. Same applies for W-key gamers; if they are dragging you around and all you'te doing is track them from 20m+ then surely you just leave them to go find someone else and come back to them when they're out positioned or trapped in an area they cannot just run from.

Thank you for writing this down. This is a crystal clear depiction of a very obvious issue. People who accuse him of doing a mistake - which is questionable btw - close their eyes to the fact that one single individual mistake doesn't change a thing about the general issue. It's like a person who fights for something lines up 100 arguments, of which 99 are totally reasonable and only 1 is maybe a little flawed... and people will go crazy over that one argument and take it as a reason why that person can't be right in what they're saying.

Lol there is nothing to argue about here the dev's have acknowledged it's a problem and are adding a slow down.

That's silly. He played it relatively well the first chase. Even if you shave 15-20 seconds off it, he still loses all 3 gens because they would get finished before he can travel to them anyways.

"Just go find another survivor" is a bad argument. It's probably another 20-30 seconds to maybe find someone else. The dwight had a medkit, and could probably heal himself up within ~10 seconds depending on what kind it is.

And who is to say the other survivors he potentially found would not do the exact same thing. At higher ranks the new chase could start off with the survivor sprint bursting off the gen, or the gen he visits has someone playing immersed and he loses 2+ gens without even getting a down. Committing was the right call on a low mobility killer like PH.

@DaKnight you do realise that the common survivor spawn is 3 survivors together and 1 by themself? So to say it would take as long as you said to find someone else is laughable. And then on top of that, if they all held W then they would overlap an area and bring the killer towards an area occupied by teammates.

You seriously cannot think being borderline afk by hard focusing 1 survivor across the map is acceptable play by a killer.

If you do not pressure multiple survivors in 1min50sec then how in the hell can you be surprised when 3 gens pop. That is terrible, absolutely terrible killer gameplay

Seemingly you lack the experience to argue about this kind of thing the optimal play was build pressure through getting a hook to try and pull survivors away from gens but having them spawn scattered on 4 different gens is really strong for the survivors and if they stick to those early gens the game can be lost then and there especially with the weaker killers in the game they might not have had any comeback at all. Also kinda hard to get the survivors who won't make any distance with a 32 meter terror radius.

Does the "average" player plays dbd as a job and have around 5000 hours though?

Get a clue.

So again, you want survivors to hold M1 for longer. That's not going to solve the problem.

Yeah. One mistake. How many mistakes can survivors make and have no real consequences for?

how many mistakes can survivors make A LOT

These arguments of high rank group play is so niche though. Like out of the hundreds of players in red ranks, so few of them are groups. I get it, it sucks, but it's like me complaining about getting mori'd almost every game for a couple days. I'm just unlucky with the matchmaking. It's anecdotal at best.

The argument that the potential of a group doing this is real, but the reality of it is that it's not common, not fun to play this kind of style for more than a passing moment, as a gag or just to feel "pro." It's just not fun in general, which is why the vast majority of players don't use these playstyles, and if they play as a four person group, it's usually just to mess around, play meme builds, etc.

This forum seems to give off the impression that all survivors, duos, trios, four person groups, are all trying to sweat the P3 blood off their clothes as they abuse every mechanic in the game to beat them. When the reality is that the player you couldn't catch that one game probably got the crap beat out of them the last game, and might have that same experience the next. It's not a consistent experience for players. Streamer highlights and YouTube videos only show the best three games they had but in reality they probably played several before, several in between, and several after, all which didn't make the cut.

Billy is gonna be dead after his Nerf yes. But the Nurse is not dead. She is no fun to play anymore and is really buggy since her nerf. But she is still the strongest killer in the game.