Why do you get a penalty for camping hook
Isn't gen progression a penalty? Devs and mods wont respond because they know damn well this is true but you get emblem penalty for camping hook. This doesn't make sense. That's two penaltys stacked for a single action. Survivors don't get a penalty for bringing four toolboxes with gen rush perks. It makes no sense unless...they're implenting the game around swf. Open to counter arguments.
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It's sort of like the death penalty, does it stop crime? Not at all.
Same can be said about near-the-hook punishments for killer. The people who camp hooks do not care about emblems, therefore no penalty matters to them at all.
Its there to make people feel good and justify finger wagging like "you are bad killer if you camp" but it does nothing to stop camping.
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It's to discourage camping the hook.
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The Entity grows bored watching the killer sit there and stare at the person on the hook. Therefore The Entity punishes The Killer for being a boring bore.
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you really couldnt of put a more obvious answer if you tried.
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To ensure people who do nothing but camp never hit the high ranks.
Also I liked this explanation a lot:
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to encourage killers not to camp the hook....?
Also you want survivors punished for doing their only objective. Bruh
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theyre only objective is gens. not hook saves. no reason to penalize camping hooks.
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Survivor lose alturism points, they need alturism to pip and rank up
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When does the lore support teabagging and SWF?
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You're punished for essentially doing nothing. You're not much of a threat if all you do is give everyone else ample time to get the gens done and leave.
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holding m1 is doing something?
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ehm.... yes?
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So if i spin in a circle isn't that doing something also? We are both pressing a button. I shouldn't be penalized for it just because i'm a killer.
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Well cuz when it comes to camping they prefer proxy camping not all up in the survivors face camping
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am i not doing my objective to ensure a survivor dies?
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cant tell if your just trolling at this point or not. Camping is a strate to secure your objective, doing gens IS THE OBJECTIVE. The reason why you get penelized for camping its because you dont pressure anything else. The killer most be active around the map and chase down 4 survivors not just 1.
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Technically if it’s a smart team you are losing a lot faster by camping and ruining someone’s gameplay
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Questions with obvious answers get... obvious answers...
Camp if you want dude, have fun doing it, just don't expect to get a good emblem there.
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Completing gens is part of a survivor's objective, killing survivors is part of a Killer's objective. Camping a single survivor on the hook is akin to doing a single generator with a survivor. If you're not get anything done, then you'll get a appropriate ranking that reflects that.
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dont you pip for doing a single gen and getting into a chase or atleast safety?
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they get chase points for staying and tea bagging. very lore friendly huh. didn't see that in any intro cinematics.
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They dont want people who hard hook camp from the start of the match ranking up. Honestly i wouldnt be mad if they increased that penalty.
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This is probably the worst bait thread I've seen. And that is saying something.
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Maybe if you're low enough in rank, but once you get into the single digits you need to be doing a whole lot more to pip: pulling survivors off hooks, healing teammates, cleansing totems, escaping chases (or at least involved in long chases), doing generators, and last but not least, escaping alive.
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you are expected to ignore the fact you just saw Nea and Claudette 2 meters from hook behind a rock and you should go across map and hide in the corner instead and let them unhook.
If you do not, you will be punished for playing the game wrong.
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It's sad you even have to ask. Camping is lazy, toxic, and on it's own a very bad plan. There are times in some matches where camping is the best strategy, those are uncommon. Camping from the start only works at low ranks or bad survivors.
Survivor role has one objective until the gens are done; do the gens. There is no gen rush. Are they supposed to crouch in a corner and wait? Do we, as killers, hide in a corner and count to 60 before we start looking for prey? Is that a kill rush? No. Are gens fast? Yes, but the idea is to snowball as the match goes forward.
If you are camping, you will not likely snowball the match very well. You won't slow things down well and be forced to rely on perks like NOED. Then wonder why good survivor teams destroy you at higher ranks.
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Camping is basically just a dick move. Cause devs arent able to prevent camping in particular situations, a penalty, even if it doesnt contribute in any way to the gameplay, is the least they could implement. Learn to paly the game properly if you think camping is allright.
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Couple nights ago, I hooked a Dwight on one side of shack, and a Nea on the other side of Shack, while Laurie was healing in the shack, saw her with nurses,....
If you think I am leaving, to go find the 4th person, you can call me what you want, I aint leaving.
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escape is survivors only objective where killer got killing but the thing is survivor don't have do much to get they objective done which do gens killer got to do too much to get they objective done
lets see
survivors to escape
do gen
open door
now there 4 survivors 5 gen to do 2 gate that can open and the hatch that don't take much
killer sacrifice
pressure the gens
chase
down
hook
sacrifice
there are 8 gens to pressure on and 4 survivors that need to be hit twice in a chase to be downed each survivor needs to be hooked 3 time to be sacrifice
sounds like that killer objective is a lot harder then survivors.
i feel like survivor should get a penalty but only thing i can think of is if they don't get into chases or don't unhook anyone but doesn't that already happen?
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the reasoning behind it is simple:
to disencourage unfun bevavior towards the other side.
and yes, Survivors do get a penality for genrushing.
that penality is given in form of them barely making any points and most of the team deranking.
doesnt mean it wouldnt be an issue, but so is camping.
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Looking at your post history, it’s clear you never play survivor and just want to bait people
Move along people, nothing more to see here
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It's an extremely minimal penalty. Like, so low it basically doesn't matter and a camping killer probably doesn't care about emblem anymore.
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That’s not considered “camping” by the game though. If you chase someone near a hook you don’t get penalised because the devs rightly agree that it isn’t camping.
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Camping is a legitimate strategy albeit an annoying and risky one. Camping makes perfect sense if you spent about 5 minutes trying to down a survivor who is on 100% sensitivity and t bagging you at every pallet. Why why would you just walk off to let them get saved to start the process off again 🤣
Camping is good for the other 3 survivors as they can gen rush and get out 👌
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Wow. You really get upset over a character model crouching? Grow up.
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Because instead of rewarding a killer for leaving, they listened to survivor cries and are punishing you instead.
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Well if your camping you shouldn't care about emblems since your already going to depip.
Also trying to use the argument survivors don't get punished for bringing 4 toolboxes and gen rushing perks is hilarious. The killer doesn't get punished for bringing a mori btw.
The reason is because the killers objective is to stop generators since that's the way survivors escape. Survivors don't get punished because their objective is to do gens.
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They penalize hook camping because its extrodanairaly unfun for the survivor being camped. He/she has to spam the struggle button for 60 seconds and before that they have to sit on hook for 60 seconds.
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Yeah they say it's a valid strategy, and then punish you for it. But it's never going to be a game that favors killers, that is something everyone can agree on.
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I guess its fine that you punish camping...
Until camping means "being around the hooked survivor" 2 seconds after you hooked him (and having 2 bold dwights running behind you to just use borrowed time in your face).
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Personally I don't camp (always feel too bad even trying, plus it's beyond boring) but c'mon lol...
Killers need sacrifice to pip and rank up too.
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The real question is why are you camping? Sorry to say this: get good.
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Acknowledging it's a valid strategy isn't the same thing as condoning that strategy.
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camping it is a strategy but punish just like genrushing punishing to survivors both are strategy but bad strategy if you want lot of BP.
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you dont pip if you only get 1 kill
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I don't think you pip if you unhook one person either, right?
My entire point is that its kind of a silly argument. Pips are stupid, and there are a lot better reasons to not camp.
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what penalty? did i miss something?
also what is killer suppose to do if there are 3 survs at full health gates are open and only one is on hook?
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Your objective(s), aka plural, are to stop the survivors from doing gens, chasing them, preventing them from powering the gates, and killing them. Your main objective is pressure. If you're just staring one survivor in the face until they're dead you're not doing your objective at all. The rest'll just gen rush you and teabag at the gates, and then you wonder why you only got a 1k. SMH.
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ok, what if nobody does the gens ( they are at 0 progress ) or 2 of 4 survs are dead? I bet most of camping complains comes after such situations.
How will you explain this situiation? killer knows that nobody does the gens should he pretend he does not understnad what is going on and where survs is heading?
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What does that have to do with what he's talking about?
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