"You had no map pressure"

Eh, idk. I mean wraith has plenty of mobility with windstorm. Demo has his portals. Trapper just stays in one part of the map all game (or he should).

Ghostface should be getting instant downs for pressure and not played like wraith (which it looks like this guy is doing, with that build).

Pretty much the only M1 killers who struggle with map sizes would be pig, myers. Myers can wipe out 2-3 people in a single EW tier 3 though. Pig is just the worst killer so if you are going into red rank matches without corrupt on her that's kind of your own fault.

Counting very rare addons in my statement isn't quite accurate. You will not have that every game.

I also said M1 killers, Demo isn't an M1 killer.

Going for consistent insta downs as Ghostface will lose you game unless you are against potatoes.

Myers has no map pressure and a very weak early game. You described how he wins matches, but that isn't what I said. I said he has no map pressure, which is a true statement.

I'm talking the better quality windstorm, the yellow isn't enough to make his map pressure where it needs to be.

Demo is not an M1 even remotely. Those tight loops are shreddable with enough practice. Shred will actually glide you along a wall if you aim it correctly and not collide.

I also did not say zero stalking. However, against good survivors you are getting very little stalks. Ghostface is definitely better than Wraith.

"Myers is a snowball killer. He is weak at first, and then turns into one of the strongest killers in the game."

Not even remotely. Myers is not that strong. You can have perma T3 Myers and you are still a loopable M1 killer. Groups that know how to loop will eat that alive.

You also didn't bring up all the other killers with no map pressure, IE PH, Plague, Bubba, Doctor, Legion etc

"All it takes on an M1 killer to turn them mostly unloopable is enduring and bamboozle. I feel like if you are going into red rank matches with a a low mobility killer, so you have to commit to chases, you should be confident in your mindgames/anti-looping or be running some chase perks. It's entirely your own fault for running around with 3-4x slowdown perks and not enough chase power to actually get the downs to use them."

No, Enduring and Bamboozle doesn't make you unloopable at all. As soon as they know you have Enduring they will drop pallets slightly early. You are greatly over valuing how good the games chase perks are.

"I think wraith is miles better than ghostface once you get into green add-ons and above. If you are considering the "best" ghostface build of just chewed pens, then you should be considering some of the best wraith add-ons as well. They both get a free hit at generators, and then are exactly the same chase-wise after that. But wraith can get great mobility, free sloppy butcher, aura reading, silent bell, etc; and has no cooldown on his power. He can bounce between survivors applying sloppy butcher much, much faster than ghostface."

I'm basing on no addons.Wraith doesn't get nearly as many free hits at generators as Ghostface does. You can't stack all those addons at once and you're mentioning an ultra rare..lol. Ghostface is also better in chase because of his size and crouching at loops.

"PH, Plague, Doctor, and Bubba all have very strong chase potential to get their map pressure. It's up to the killer to be good enough with them to get downs fast enough to apply it."

Their better chase isn't good enough to make up for their lack of map pressure. Your statement here summarizes into a "just pressure the gens". If you play killer at rank 1 regularly you would know how exaggerating you're being here. Against average survivors sure, but against good survivors it is not playing out that way.

Also, Plague does not have good chase even remotely. She is quite literally THE worst chase. Tallest and most loopable killer in the game.

I have played at rank 1 for years now? If you are M1 and don't respect pallets, it's inevitable you are going to eat quite a few during the game if the survivors are running tight loops. I consider looping running the same tile over and over again, not chaining strong tiles together. You should know not to chase a really good survivor through a super strong area early game by now; while 3 people pound gens in the background. But bamboozle alone shuts down jungle gyms / shack / cow tree / god windows; which are the biggest time wasters in the game for M1 killers still.

Considering no add-ons is almost a moot point. Anyone running BBQ and doing well in their matches is probably getting 40-50k+ points a game, which is plenty to be running green / purple add-ons regularly. Stalkless ghostface can basically only use 3 add-ons (unless you like crouch speed) which arguably makes him the most expensive killer in the game to be playing.

Fast downs are the best pressure there is in DBD. You can't do gens if you have to save / heal your team.

And plague has great chase, considering everyone is a 1 shot at all times. And it's not like legion where you are giving them a speed boost to get it. She's still M1, but I use monitor and bamboozle or enduring to help me close the gap and stop god loops. Proxy camping a hook with her literally forces survivors to cleanse because they can't make a save while they are injured.

I want to start off by saying I'm a killer main before anyone comments as if I'm saying this as a survivor main. Gen rushing is a legitimate tactic. To act like it's scummy would be like asking survivors to not do their job. Why wouldn't survivors gen rush if it wins them games? This is the big difference between gen rushing and face camping. Face camping does not win you games. It only opens you up to more losses which is why it's so scummy. Your sacrificing possible wins just to be scummy. That's not to say camping alone is bad. Camping, just like gen rushing can be a legitimate strategy when done properly. Survivors and killers both need to realize there are annoying strategies each side can use, but if they work as intended complaining about them only makes you look like trash because you're just complaining about what your enemy is literally suppose to be doing.

All this being said sfw is extremely unfair. It's like playing with wallhacks. Genrushing with sfw is extremely scummy just because of how inherently unfair sfw mode is. sfw has absolutely no place in a ranked mode. Rank 20 survivors could get rank 1 with a 4 man sfw easily.

When 3 gens pop that fast, just head to an exit gate lever and play on your phone. They want to work on gens that badly? Let 'em! I'm sure they're having a blast. They're so focused they may not realize you're not chasing them until they've done all 5. When EGC starts immediately afterward, they'll realize that you weren't hunting, they just did all the work, and that the gen rush didn't frustrate you. I'm sure they'll have had a blast.

Other hint. After you open the exit gate, move forward and put your face between left side of the switch and the brick protrusion, and play on your phone again. Now they can't blind you or initiate chases. No boldness or altruism points for them, daaaarn. Hope the gen rush was worth it.

I was thinking the same.. that is a lot of points for survivors that just did gens, and the killer still got 1k... cannot expect 4k every match. I played a couple of days ago as survivor and 7 of 8 matches were 4k. Maybe we can nerf tools/perks/gen speeds so that could be 8/8 4ks with no escaping.

And to their comment, I'm glad I'm on PS4 and don't see post game chat garbage. They know what they brought, they knew they were going to be able to increase their odds, and they are just trolling POS's. Be happy that you got one cause I guarantee as a 4 man sweaty SWF, the one that did not get away was super salty, and his team feels bad for losing him/her in what they thought would be a sure-fire 4 man escape.

Now show us the last 10 or so games before this where you 3 or 4k’d in a row. Gen rush meme build by a swf. You got wrecked. Say gg and move on the the next.

Outside of their builds that's the problem! Survivor's don't have enough objective's compared to what killer's have to do to get the ball rolling! Killer's have to predict and hope that their prediction is right, chase and down a survivor, than hook them. By the time the killer get's their first hook, 2-3 gens can pop and if the survivor has second chance perks, than that extends chase time and gives the other survivor's more time on gens. If the survivor is a top 1% player and the killer had to drop the chase, guess what? It's back to square 1, and not only that only 3 killer's have the map pressure for that, but survivor's want them nerfed or call them boring.

While I agree what your saying, the problem is that survivor's don't have enough objectives, and killer's can't be at 4 places at once

Yeah because I can patrol 3 separate gens being worked on solo with toolboxes with bnps.

Prove thyself doesn't stack so if 3 people have it they wasted a perk slot, it's not a bad perk but it has too much need for having multiple people on a gen to even make it work which in theory makes it useless. Toolboxes are crap and so are BNP toolboxes don't even last a gen anymore

It's that team healer build that scares me more than the toolboxes honestly.

They said he had no map pressure as they brought brand new parts. I mean really?

I didn't mean to sound rude