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Stalking Nerf
So here is what I find unfair and ridiculous. So the hillbilly chainsaw uncharged when you stop and so does Cannibal. But how is it fair the the Shape can stalk a little, walk across the map, stalk a little more and 99 it so he can charge in and last second expose us? That needs to get nerfed. I play both killer and survivor and I've played the Shape and I find it to be a totally unfair tactic. Stuff like that makes the game unfair. It should uncharged either after a specific time or as soon as he stops stalking.
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But Myers only has a limited amount of stalk he can drain from survivors.
Honestly this is the first time pretty much I've heard someone complain about 99ing EW3. Personally, I don't really see it as much of an issue. It requires some prep and if you're fully drained of stalk Myers can't pop his 99'd EW3 on you.
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He 99'd my entire group. We ran from him several times and then he just vanished. Then as soon as 2 of us started on a generator, he rushed in and instantly put us into exposed and downed my partner, he ditched them came after me and knocked me down. Rushed out and disappeared. He he did this 3 times to us, killing 3 people so limited stalk doesnt seem to work on making it fair and I get it with almost every Mike I get.
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Imagine thinking default Myers is 'unfair and ridiculous'
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oh no. I know he gets even more unfair. Like his ability to see through walls. He is the pinnacle of a bs killer
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He is the definition of a balanced killer. Including with that add on as on most maps it doesn't work well and you have a considerably slow movement speed and very short lunge.
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He is in no way balanced as long as he can 99 his stalk. It's unfair to have the killer burst into a room and instantly put you into exposed status. All I'm asking is it be given s timer on how long it stays 99'd or make it reset instead of him chasing you continuously and steadily building it to 99. It's not balanced at all
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myers is a very well rounded and balanced killer. he can't stalk you through objects or walls and you can actually keep him in tier 1 for a very long time. if anything? myers needs a buff lol. he can be easily looped as he's still just an m1 killer with an instadown ability that takes a lot of time to get to. if you don't know what you're doing and are just feeding him evil then that's your fault it has nothing to do with myers. him being able to see everything within 32 meters at a reduced speed of 4.2m/s and a heavily reduced lunge is pretty easy to counter, that's why people bring map offerings to sneak around corners. it honestly just seems like you're annoyed at a match you had in the game and came to the forum to complain. if you think myers has his t3 at 99, drop the pallet early or prevault if you're really that scared of getting instadowned lol. his power doesn't last that long (base) and add-ons make it even. more stalk = more T3. he's a pretty simple killer but when played effectively can be very good. and with any killer: splitting up easily counters them. myers has low mobility and I'd honestly say his power doesn't even make up for it because as I said, he can still easily be looped. even in infinite t3 myers can be looped lol. so I don't see any reason why you're complaining tbh? this is a bait post over and out.
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Just don't let him stalk you. Use your eyes 👀
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Myers doesn't need a nerf. On the contrary, he needs a buff.
I don't know if it's me or he's a killer who spends a lot of time stalking.
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Myers is actually a very weak killer, because he has barely any anti-loop, average mobility, and minor stealth (low terror radius, but extremely good visibility due to his colour and size).
He is stronger on indoor maps, but thats not nessecarily a bad thing.
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Just out of curiosity, what map were you playing on?
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What you’re referring to is his scratched mirror add-ons which are only viable on indoor maps. On any other map it’s a guaranteed loss as long as the survivors are half-decent. And also considering you have sprint burst as your icon, let’s talk about how people can 99% their sprint burst during chases and use it to just get away. Don’t you think that’s unfair. And I recommend running spine chill. Then you’ll know if he’s stalking you within 32-ish meters
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Was on Crotus Prenn
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Yes. Let's talk about how I use my sprint burst to run across the map, work on a gen, my exhaustion goes away, then when killer comes at me, it activates again, and killer still chases me even though it activated. 99 my ass. Let's talk about your whining of sprint burst?
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And all of you say he weak but I'm always the last 1 alive against him. Whatever Meyers you guys are playing against are ######### players, or you cant play him because Meyers always catches everyone. I do loop him and I always jump through windows yet he always is able to land the hit. He is not weak.
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Out of curiosity, how experienced are you?
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Unless at main building, there's legit no way for him to sneak up on you.
And maybe you should start using Spine Chill if he's a problem for you?
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Been playing since 2017
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Do you know how many walls and hiding spots there are for killers in crotus?
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Apperantly no, cause i never had that much of an issue with Myers of all people on that map.
And again, if you're having trouble with him (or any stealth killer) maybe you should try using Spine Chill.
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I've used Spine Chill but the radius make it difficult to tell how close they are so doesn't exactly help. And mind you, he left me in my match after I lost him. Then I get to a generator and before I could do anything he bursts in and instantly downed my partner by instantly putting us into exposed. That's the only thing that needs nerfing. Hell buff whatever the hell you think he needs but his stalk needs to be just like everything else with a charge and need to recharge if you dont use it. It's not balanced at all
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I've never had a problem with 99s before, and I play 50/50. I just run spine chill and I'm good, take away myers surprise EW3 and what does he have? Some addons that either are worthless depending on the map or they take forever to activate. I like myers as he is now. If anything I'd say he needs to be buffed.
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36 Meters. If they're looking at you for more than 2 seconds you should be cautious.
he left me in my match after I lost him. Then I get to a generator and before I could do anything he bursts in and instantly downed my partnerThat's like saying "I was injured (broken) and i wasn't paying attention and got downed".
+would mean that also GF needed to be nerfed (which wouldn't really hurt him cause he mostly never uses that mechanic).
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What you describe is the standard Myers tactics. You want to nerf an already power creeped killer further? You know that Ghost Face can also do similar? Oni can also save his power to use it when he wants. And he doesn't have to 99 it.
I may say that I am quite experienced in DBD (reaching 3k hrs soon). I can tell you this: Your team decides what Myers is capable of. If they feed him in the beginning... well good luck. If they starve him, he will have a hard time to get anything done.
99ing is not unfair. Everyone should be careful not to kill their mates with their stupidity. Myers power feeds on careless Survivors, tbaggers etc. to use it on stronger opponents. The weak link in the team punishes the strong. That is how Myers works.
If you'd nerf that, Myers would be very weak.
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If you would do that he would be a worse Ghost Face.
No thanks.
Your statement here would also mean to nerf Oni, singe he can do the same. Hit others, walk to your Gen and use his 60s insta down.
I play with Spine Chill 24/7 and I had never a problem with low TR killers like Myers. Just hide if the icon lights up constantly (not in the locker, though!).
I got never surprised by him at a Gen. Even if he used EWIII later during the chase, I had some extra distance.
Also I can recommend using your eyes. Myers is very tall. I can understand missing a crouching Ghost Face, but not Myers.
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Most maps have high walls that make sight difficult to see. Only ones that really dont are cold wind and Macmillan. Red forest has trees or buildings, crotus has high walls, grave of glenvale has lots of buildings, and then indoor maps. So no. Most maps its extra difficult to see him coming.
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99ing isnt fair on all sides. 99ing hooks and doors for survivors is bullshit and not fair to the killer. 99ing instant down abilities is not fair to survivors.
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I dont even know if I wanna respond to this cause..... just no dude. 2 different situations... just no
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I thought it was all about resource management and building up the most you can before you need to use it?
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All they have to do is take away his capability to 99 and then buff his add-ons and other capabilities. I mean hell I was in a match where his expose lasted the whole game from beginning to end of an hour long match. He is not weak at all
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I mean, making fragrant tuft of hair part of his default base kit would get rid of that 99 problem you don't like...
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99ing is not fair. Some 99ing is more unfair then others. But it gives advantage to one side more then the other and highly infuriating. It makes things no fun
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Still would be op af
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You should probably mention that. 99 is an amazing tool he has, taking it away and not mentioning a replacement sounds like your asking for a straight nerf.
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How would you get rid of this ability without taking away player freedom? Would exit gates, generators, healing progress, and stalking progress all regress when not actively being increased?
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Tbh, yes. You stay wounded for extended periods would actually make it worse so I'm pretty sure that would be a realistic feature. Charge for the doors could deplete over time if you dont fully charge it so that would work as a feature. You run a broken generator, over time it should start falling apart. That's a legitimate way to solve 99ing
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How comes it then that I never really had problems against him?
High walls are there to make loops mindgamable. Which is good.
99ing gates.. OK, but 99ing hooks? This is not possible anymore since at least 3 (or was it 6?) months. You were not around lately I guess.
So basically Myers, Ghost Face and Oni are unfair then? Because they chose when they unleash their power (burst)?
Sorry to say that, but it never felt unfair to me. Not when I was was a noob 2 years ago, and certainly not now.
The only thing that pisses me of against Myers is when I get Tombstoned the first time I see that guy. My anger is not against the Killer's design but more against my mates stupidity to give him all the stalk. That's it. Myers strength is 99ing.
If you really have problems against him, then really try to get used to spine chill. Otherwise Object, if you are more aggressive, Premonition if you have trouble getting the direction he is in. Also Bond or Empathy show you where the chase is and kindred shows you the direction he walks after a hook.
Else I can't help you. Myers doesn't need a nerf. His stalk is more restricted than that of Ghost Face. 99ing is OK. Tier 1 needs a buff. Trash add-ons (mirror shards, jewelry, lock of hair, Vanity Mirror) need a rework/buff and Scratched Mirror needs immunity again. But else he is fine.
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High walls make it impossible to see the killer while working gens and it's hard to not feed him when he rushes you at a gen and then sits there and stalks you periodically in the chase, tunneling you till 99 then disappears
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Inb4 nerf Ghostface next 'cause he can 99 specific survivors and then instantly go up to them and expose them.
Use your eyes or run Spine Chill.
Myers is fine as is.
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Hell yea. Nerf gf too. They both need it and I'm 100% sure bhvr can figure a way to buff him more then nerf him. He need a nerf with whatever tf you guys want as a buff
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Are you like new...?
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Like I'm trying my best not to be insulting but the responses read like someone who isn't fully familiar with the game just yet. Ghostface could be beaten by getting exposed, you're playing the game in third person so it's not that hard to spot him just be aware of your surroundings. I will be fair and say that GF needs to be fixed, something's up with his expose which either doesn't work sometimes or cause it to be delayed but Michael? He has to literally drain your whole team person by person and to have infinite stalk, he has to use a tuff of hair and judith's tombstone which hinders him throughout the entire match because he loses movement speed.
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Tell that to the 5 different times I've dealt with a full speed Myers that went the whole match with us exposed. Dude I'm not new and I've seen these things a million times. Great players getting taken down instantly due to 99 or infinite exposed. And seconds after the game starts. It's not always easy to spot him or gf either. Both of them are way too difficult to deal with. More times then not, I survive but at the cost of my whole team who spends a lot of time looping him as he does his little tapping of the stalk button, building it up during a chase. And even if you lose the killer it's easy to pick up scratch marks to continue the chase. He is not balanced at all.
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After reading through some comments and also through your post, seeing what map you were playing on, and who you were playing with, I can safely say you weren't focused on your surroundings.
Before you decide to defend yourself and state that you are looking at your surroundings...
If Myers had the ability to 99 your whole group, it means that you weren't looking around. He can be easily spotted if you are actually scanning the area, because Myers wouldn't reach T3 three times if you and your team were efficient in noticing that he was stalking you. You are in third person, you have the ability to see if he is coming around a corner or not.
Also Crotus Prenn is a very open map, meaning that Myers can see you clear as day
And Fun fact: Scratched Mirror Myers wouldn't work on CP, the map is too big for him to move efficiently.
Myers was released nearly 4 years ago, October 26, 2016.
Only now people are complaining about him? Is this because the viable killers are getting nerfed currently? Beating Myers is possible, it just means that you need the effort of looking around your surroundings and there you go. He's not OP, the character isn't OP at all. If he was based like the movie Myers he would not give a crap about pallets or walls, and he wouldn't give a crap about hooking you either.
Just because a killer beats you, doesn't make them op
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Nerf Spine Chill to stay lit up for 10 seconds even if the killer only glanced in your direction, and make the Exit Gate regress every time it is let go.
If you arent willing to spend a perk slot on Spine Chill, you are making too much use of other fun Perks. You choose your perks. You can't blame your perk choices on the Killer.
Nerf the exit gate so that if the killer looks at the exit gate, it is completely regressed. Survivors leaving the exit gate at 99 leaves the Killer with no way to smash it or regress, and the killer knows its a hopeless moment about to occur.
Also, if survivors are full health and they each one by one run by the killer standing in the exit gate, the survivors know the killer cant stop them and can escape with a single hit. If they all rush the exit gate, the killer can only stab one of them one time. The Killer should be granted NOED while standing in the exit gate, even if they didnt bring NOED.
The killer should be able to drag several bodies out of the exit gate at once, to prevent survivors from crawling out of the exit gate while killer can only hook one survivor.
Add two hooks inside the exit gate, so the killer can quickly hook two survivors and camp them in the exit gate. Survivors could still rescue and escape faster than killer could down them. It would make a fun story to share on media. Make these hooks permanent and cant be sabotaged, similar to basement hooks.
I really dont want spine chill nerfed... but its really powerful. xD
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You didnt read any of the comments then. Almost every Myers I face rushes in. We respond and run away. During run away he periodically stops to stalk while keeping up the chase building up on the stalk meter then at 99 he disappears. You get to a generator (and most generators in crotus are enclosed in walls SO YOU CANT SEE ANYWHERE TO WATCH FOR HIM) and he bursts in, tapping the power button and swings. BAM! INSTA DOWN WITH NO REACTION TIME! And then he gets in chase and tunnels till next person is down. He did this process 3 times. So no. Actually read before you post. Dont assume you know what I'm saying cause its obvious you don't.
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And no. Now you are just mocking me. And if you are serious you want the game more killer oriented.
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Lmao, I literally said in the start, "I read through some comments". I read your post, and I read through SOME comments.
First off - He has a heart beat at T2. So either way if he had a heartbeat, you should be either evacuating the area or walking/running away.
Second - You're complaining that he T3 three times doing the EXACT SAME process meaning you didn't learn the first time.
Third - I know how Crotus is, and by the sounds of it you're talking about the Jungle Gym Generators. Have more self awareness, that's not a killer problem, that's a YOU problem. If he is sitting at 99 and you know he is, listen for the heartbeat and play around that. It literally sounds like you have a lack of game awareness.
Myers is catching you off guard, pretty much outplaying you.
I'm genuinely curious your Rank for both playstyles.
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So what you're saying is you literally just want them to make him Ghostface?
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What do you want then?
Line of Sight where you can see Myers from across the map or Protection by walls against stalking while in chase.
You can't get both.
I still don't get it what is so bad about 99ing stalk. You only say basically that he can't punish you for the mistakes of others. What if I say that every killer has this tool from a certain point of view? A weak link hurts the whole team. Whether it is Oni or Myers, but also Freddy.
When I play my Deam Master I can punish the whole group after a quick chase with the weak link to use pop on their Gen. I capitalized on the mistakes of one to get the group.
Myers is no different. If you have no eyes like Demogorgon or your eyes hidden behind a giant Pyramid so you get stalked easily this is your problem or that of your team. Not that of the Killer's design.
And from what I can tell of the map and what happened to you, I dare say you THOUGHT you lost him (Maybe he had Monitor and Abuse) then ran to the Gen and leading him directly there. Crotus prenn is also very open except the main building and some jungle Gyms. He probably stalked you from distance (also GF can do this).
Open maps like most Auto Heaven, Crotus prenn, most MacMillan or Saloon are more difficult against Myers since you can't easily break LOS depending on your location. Lèry's is easiest against Myers. Many walls and windows I can use and break LOS and starving him.
Only out of curiosity. You said you play since 2017. How many hours do you have?
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