Bring back OG instaheals

Okay, i'll start using the official names to everything >.>

The deep wounds bar doesn't go down as long as you're running, and if the killer is in full tunnelvision mode on you then you're probably gonna be running most of the time right?

Besides the benefits that instantly becoming healthy gives you (like no bleeding/injury moans) + the ability to insta-pickup someone from the floor the current styptic is probably better than the old one. As it isn't revealed until the killer actually hits you, and it can even tank instadown attacks.

Think about the killer pov... you downed a survivor, you have a cooldown after an attack, another survivors runs to you, instaheals and bodyblock you forcing a hit.

Now chase is completely wasted.

And its not useless, it can be used during a chase... but i quess too many survivors can't loop a kiler for more than 16 seconds.

All I want to say is that the name is Styptic Agent not Septic Agent. We really do not want any DBD players, who plan to go into any medical field to ever confuse the two as:

• A Septic Agent is something that is Bad. Sepsis (septic adj.) defines a widespread immune-resistant infection, leading to eventual abrupt cascading or simultaneous failure of multiple organs (septic shock.
• A Styptic Agent is something that is Good (other than individuals that are predisposed to thrombosis). Styptic (from Greek stuptikos  ‘to contract’ ) agents are anti-hemorrhaging substances that contract tissue around ruptured blood vessels to prevent further blood loss.

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Few additional tidbit of medical information:

Topical styptic agents in the powdered form (like the Styptic Agent) are considered the far more effective option than those that can be administered intravenously (the Anti-hemorrhaging Syringe) with a syringe in cases of profuse bleeding, as they can be applied immediately to treat injuries in combat situations. While there are several types of intravenous anti-hemorrhaging agents used for cases of massive blood loss and hemorrhages they all suffer from very similar contraints on their efficacy. These are typically based on whats known as coagulation factors - essential proteins in our bodies responsible for the process of coagulation, like proconventin (Factor VII) or AHF (Factor VIII), an essential protein responsible for anti-hemophiliac clotting.

1. Factor VIII (brand name Advate) has to be: 1. carefully pre-mixed with sterile injectable solution (water in many cases) right before administration injected very slowly into the vein 3. re-administered multiple times, or even continously depending on the severity of the patients hemophilia. It is also not meant for traumatic injury cases.
2. Factor VIIa ( (brand name NovoSeven ), in its recombinant form (rFVIIa) would be closer to what the is based on.
   1. While this type is the faster acting (still needs to be premixed, slowly injected ) one and utilized by many military hospitals - especially in hostile areas as was the case during both Afghanistan and Iraq wars - it is also and virtually everyone from researchers, medical experts and the manufacturers themselves makes it very clear that it is what's known as a treatment of the last resort and should only be considered when everything else has failed or past the point of efficacy.
   2. The medication is also very,very, VERY expensive, costing approximately $15,000 per dose for a 200 lbs. male, (and that is wholesale, hospital charge to patient/insurance would in most instances be $50,000 - $100,000 range, depending on weight etc.)
   3. Military use obviously does not fall under any FDA jurisdiction, which only allows - well actually allowed as in April of this year FDA approved Sevenfact for additional types of hemophilia - rFVIIa for one very specific form of hemophilia affecting less than 3000 people in the entire US. Consequently rFVIIa agents were widely used to treat life-threatening injuries of soldiers involving substantial blood loss , by the military hospital doctors during both OEF and OIF. It likely saved hundreds of lives, but it also lead to deaths from multiple clot-based strokes, heart attacks and pulmonary embolisms in young people without underlying conditions where these things are a medical rarity. One of the likely reasons was that its use was too broad, likely administered by doctors without sufficient experience with rFVIIa, and for cases that did not actually warrant the administration of rFVIIa.
3. However, the are also antifibrolitics (which while having a very similar function of stopping blood loss, their mechanism is different and hence they are not antihemorrhagics) like Tranexamic acid. These are effective, and there are some available in OTC tablet form for non-critical bleeding (typically menstual bleeding). However, these also require a slow administration, and typically first a loading dose , followed by slow infusion.

For those of you who skipped to the end of the above:

In any setting where hemorrhaging wounds are common and rapid emergency wound closure is paramount, topical Styptic Agents in powdered form (DBD's purple vial) are the most effective type of agents which can be both rapidly administered and provide immediate benefit..The currently available ones in an IV form that can be put in a syringe (like the Anti-hemorrhaging Syringe is meant to portray) all take time time to prepare, have to be injected slowly over a period of time (preferably in a sterile hospital setting) and most importantly are reserved for the most critical of cases as some of them can kill you. In a real world setting, the Anti-hemorrhaging Syringe (filled with either an antifibrolitic or antihemorrhagic solution that was already premixed way in advanced, and rapidly injected all at once) would represent a murder weapon, as no such thing exists.

What does exist, and how it could actually be implemented within the context of DBD is to have the Syringe work as follows:

• Instead of the 16s timer to kick in, make the survivor equipped with it to has to spend 15 seconds (or maybe 10sec + skill check) preparing it.
• The completed syringe then has to be applied within 20 seconds, afterwards if not used it disintegrates.
• The injection process takes 2.5 sec (the same as sabotage) but the timer is sufficient to stop both survivors in order to apply it
• Afterwards the survivor injected with it gets healed instantaneously.

This would make more sense both in terms of how these things actually work, as well as create a new important mechanism within the games: you would need to prepare the syringe either close to the hook (with the newly added, failed skill check now putting two survivors at potential risk of death, at a price of rapid heal if the survivor succeeds), or start running right after preparing it further away. There are even other options like repurposing the syringe to only usable for knocked down survivors, allowing the heal to injured to occur within 2.5 sec with a 4 sec endurance effect Just not what it is right now, as the purple medkit with proper addons neither takes 16 seconds to heal others, nor depletes medkit on use.

The main point being: insta-heals are idiotic. They don't exist in real-life, and to those of you ready to say that games need not imitate life, in horror movies they are already primarily reserved for killers. I am a sruvivor main, and the last thing I want is these things back in the game. At the same time, both the Syringe and the Agent in their current form are practically useless. If I don't make it known in the lobby that I am carrying a syringe, I will never get that basement survivor to stick around long enough for me to apply the syringe (if they happen to also have Sprint Burst on top of it, its best to not even try), and even if I somehow cut them off down the line, having the 16 second delay kick in makes the whole thing useless. Finally (and this is by far the most critical thing in need of fixing), not providing any type of a notification to other players about the syringe has now caused me to die prematurely in 2 different trials when it looked like I was trolling when trying to wave them over after moving away from a coop heal action.

The problem with Instagram love is that they removed a lot of progress from the Killer.

For example insta healing a survivor who just got downed with a syringe would completely reset the progress making the killer have to go through the entire thing again.

It wasn't fun for the killer it didn't feel nice it was a pain in the ass and it usually meant that probably last 30 seconds almost half a gen now has to be done again from stage 1

I really don't think the time needs to be (or should be) lowered.

There's a reason why they made it take 16 seconds: that's how long a normal heal takes. The syringe is a free heal that occurs passively while the survivor does other things (being chased, doing objectives, healing someone else, etc). Because this time limit is fixed it also counters any perks/add-ons which apply the Mangled status effect.

I've admittedly thought it would be funny if this syringe-heal wasn't cancelled by a successful attack from the killer (where it could potentially revive you by one state during killer's weapon wipe), but that would probably still be too close to being "discount Adrenaline" like this add-on used to be.

i don't think they should come back sorry.

Do you also want old bnp and insta blind and old fast vaults?

If I get old insta Moris.... I have enough of these for the next 200 matches on my main. So I would use them every time. Have fun.

I want them back with the stipulation that makes them only useable outside of chase.

I don't like the insta-heals now, mainly because more people use them in chase, and I don't know if I'm meant to hit them ASAP or not hit them when their med-kits disappear. It's bad game design to force killers to guess at that choice.

this is a result of the developers still having perk leveling tied to the bloodweb; it causes add-on acquisiton to increase significantly, which means that the add-ons are less powerful to compensate for the de facto lower rarity. It shouldn't be this way.

So you suggest that I as killer should get punished if survivor X is cocky after being unhooked and wants me to hit him so I "tunnel"?

Because this would be happening if you would implement such thing. People would abuse it similar to DS.

No thank you.

The old insta heal was cancer. I had a 4man swf once. I had the old dying light. I was chasing the obsession and when I got her and did the wiping animation, a mate was there and healed her. Repeat 3 times. Then I picked her up and got DSed (the old one). I just wanted her dead, but a mate blocked her once and then again with MoM (also the old OP version) and again.

This was the only match I dc'ed as killer. Ever.

I hope now you understand that the old insta heals were cancer.

hmm, sounds like a bad time with SWF abusing mechanics and not because of the nature of solo survivors.

So, #nerfSWFability and #don'truinthesoloexperience

A question remains: old insta heal=old syringe or old insta heal= old styptic or both?

I like the bottled time of the styptic now but I would rather not have 2 stage insta heals again, because it has too much impact if it is stacked.

Yeah, the 4man swf experience was insane. Pure bad luck I guess. Critical failure incoming!

I was not as bad as with solos but still bad. I was not as good back then as killer, so maybe it gust gave me lasting nightmares.

Your concept is better, but still flawed. What about Wraith, Nurse, Myers or Pig who often lose their chase. It would be quite annoying to see Survivors still using it in chase