Killer entitlement with the lobby cherry picking and dc's

No in game voices, just be able to tell swf and give killers something like whispers etc to make up for information, seeing they are thinking of adding built in kindred in some form and more info to solo players. 

@pauloandrade22 said:
You can call all of the insults you want to try and socially coerce people to play with you.

But I and you guys too would not purposefully play a rigged game where you are guarranteed to lose no matter what unless you get pitied on or they are just really bad players.

Yep the excuses keep on coming, rigged game, you're guaranteed to lose etc, what's next the sky is falling so therefore the internet will die thus you can't play?

If you're guaranteed to lose then why do so many killers do so well so often I mean against good survivors they still manage to get kills and even 4k.

Eveline said:

I had a killer now who dc'ed because instead of 4k he got 2k. Gens powered dc.

There are sore losers in both sides, people who dc on first down. That's what this game does.

@Eveline said:
I had a killer now who dc'ed because instead of 4k he got 2k. Gens powered dc.

I get that sometimes too and there's a certain rank 1 killer a Billy that everytime he dc's after 30 seconds or so if he charges across a map and doesn't find anyone. It doesn't help that i always kill his Hex Totem within the 1st 2 minutes or so as soon as i realize it's him.

I've had killers who'll do it when they've gotten 3 ppl sac'd because the 4th person is about to get out from the gate. So they dc and lose all those points and a double pip all because they didn't get a 4k.

But on the other side and I've seen this from both sides a survivor will dc the moment they get hit or downed 1st time sometimes.

Orion said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:
There are sore losers in both sides, people who dc on first down. That's what this game does.

Don't blame the game, blame the player. This is like blaming traffic for the existence of ######### drivers.

No, competitive environments brings out things in people. Not blaming the game, saying it is the obvious catalyst for this behavior or it unfetters them. The actions are totally up to the user.

@Dabrownman1812 said:
No, competitive environments brings out things in people. Not blaming the game, saying it is the obvious catalyst for this behavior or it unfetters them. The actions are totally up to the user.

Can't bring out what isn't there in the first place. People like that just shouldn't play games.

@Zarathos said: Then change the game vs players who can direct each other whats close to being done or when a save is optimum or what direction the killers going. I have played from both perspectives and its unbelievably unbalanced.

Relaying information on killers position to others. Giving the location of hex totems to the team. Giving the killers perk layout on death. Guys killers got noed. Watch out guys devour hope. Haunted ground and ruin dont touch the totems.

You call us entitled despite the fact that you are feeding information no survivour should know telepatheticly giving the location of all key objectives and threats. You can talk fron your pedestal claiming its entitled but i dare you to face down 10 rank 1 swfs as trapper and tell me how much fun you had knowing all your traps will be disarmed and your position always being compromised.

Yeah, I was checking out random Streamers on Twitch for DBD tonight and saw two channels that I recall that were SWF teams. It was such bullshit to watch. They bullied the Killer, called out positions on everything, relayed Perk loadout when one of them died.

I mean, if that was my first time viewing DBD to see what it was about, I can assure you I would never have bought the game after seeing that SWF crap.

And these are Streamers with thousands of followers.

One that was a real douche and bullying the Killer because he was bored was some Streamer named Puppers. The other SWF relaying all sorts of crap (including Killer loadout) was StreamDad_

To paraphrase the Devs: "The realm of The Entity is a world akin to that of your dreams. As you're unable to talk in your dreams, you can't talk in an in game round."

powerbats said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:

Most survivor mains don't understand the advantage it gives. It can't be that much of an advantage etc. Voice breaks the game, even when I play swf I don't read loadout, I play as if I was with randoms and tell my homies not to teabag unless they camp. It's a pretty unfair game breaking edge when survivors know what they are doing and are competent. Most survivor mains don't get to rank 8 killer and lower to see the difference in high rank swf and low rank swf. Pretty much facing ed, edd, and eddy or you're facing the expendables lol.

Actually most survivor do understand and most streamers also aren't jerks like a certain PS4 douchebag. But what we can't understand the lengths some killer mains go to blame swf for their poor game play.

This forum is littered with posts claiming it's 4 man swf with 4 ds/sb etc when that's not even remotely close to the truth.

It's hard to take a lot of killer mains seriously when they blame everything that happens on swf, voice, ds, and whatever other excuse they want to use.

We all can agree that swf makes it more difficult and the devs are slowly changing things to make solo on equal footing so killers can be brought to that level.

But looking at the posters here that's never gonna be enough and it's why people use the you want 4k every match and everyone on hook.

When you killer mains sometimes won't even call out your own side for such blatant bs and even defend them when you know it's bs you're just as guilty as they are. You also basically say to everyone that hey we want 4k every match and easy games.

It doesn't matter what the truth is the perception that you're all just a bunch of whiny spoiled entitled children comes through loud and clear. Throw in the usual insults you direct or let get directed unchallenged and you're just as guilty.

The post game screen is getting changed so killer perks can't be seen and as far as voice they could take that out and you'd still whine. You've obviously forgotten Steam chat and speech to text messaging haven't you.

If you think for one instant those people in the dream aren't going to communicate somehow you're mistaken and it's hilarious you quote the devs when you're all so busy bashing them using the same logic.

I've said it before I'm hoping they create a non swf queue and then you have to choose which one you want to play against as killer. Once you choose however YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT, meaning you can't ever leave that solo q no matter what.

Don't like long lobby wait times well tough cow patties, you got what you wanted and now you're stuck with it unless you buy another copy of the game. Because if there's only 30% of the player base that does solo q then you lot have to divy up that 30%.

The nice thing is killers that choose to stay won't be lobby dodging because they won't care, they'll get super fast lobbies. The survivors won't get lobby dodged anymore because they won't have to deal with it anymore.

Lastly this last parts would have to be once they buff killers up to swf level of course but then you'd have to come up with something new to complain about.

I get your frustrated that killers blame their faillings repetadly on swf. But claiming were whining and should stop complaining while desperatly pointing out some fixes incoming really hammers home how unbalanced the experiance is. Some killers don't fundamentally work against swf. Trapper for instance will have all of his traps disarmed and marked by other survivours. I see no solution to making him viable vs swf.

A killer like trapper needs no voice comms to be viable. Ive played a large amount of swf and solo play and I get the appeal hanging out with mates and acting as a coordinated skilled team is incredibly rewarding and enjoyable. But it should be a challenge a killer is warned is incoming where their aware they need to bring their A game. I have went up against swfs teams with some weaker meme builds into swf and its depressing how little impact you have completely unaware that they were a co-ordinated team.

Also your solution is anti new player friendly. If a new player enters the game and finds the decision show up how can he make an educated decision on whether he wants to play agsinst swfs or only solo. Make separate queues for this game one casual and one ranked. Ranked gameplay is solo only and casual is swf allowed. Its such a simple solution. Casual will also be a good node to test out fun weaker builds instead of playibg against optimised teams and survivours

powerbats said:

@Dabrownman1812 said:

Most survivor mains don't understand the advantage it gives. It can't be that much of an advantage etc. Voice breaks the game, even when I play swf I don't read loadout, I play as if I was with randoms and tell my homies not to teabag unless they camp. It's a pretty unfair game breaking edge when survivors know what they are doing and are competent. Most survivor mains don't get to rank 8 killer and lower to see the difference in high rank swf and low rank swf. Pretty much facing ed, edd, and eddy or you're facing the expendables lol.

Actually most survivor do understand and most streamers also aren't jerks like a certain PS4 douchebag. But what we can't understand the lengths some killer mains go to blame swf for their poor game play.

This forum is littered with posts claiming it's 4 man swf with 4 ds/sb etc when that's not even remotely close to the truth.

It's hard to take a lot of killer mains seriously when they blame everything that happens on swf, voice, ds, and whatever other excuse they want to use.

We all can agree that swf makes it more difficult and the devs are slowly changing things to make solo on equal footing so killers can be brought to that level.

But looking at the posters here that's never gonna be enough and it's why people use the you want 4k every match and everyone on hook.

When you killer mains sometimes won't even call out your own side for such blatant bs and even defend them when you know it's bs you're just as guilty as they are. You also basically say to everyone that hey we want 4k every match and easy games.

It doesn't matter what the truth is the perception that you're all just a bunch of whiny spoiled entitled children comes through loud and clear. Throw in the usual insults you direct or let get directed unchallenged and you're just as guilty.

The post game screen is getting changed so killer perks can't be seen and as far as voice they could take that out and you'd still whine. You've obviously forgotten Steam chat and speech to text messaging haven't you.

If you think for one instant those people in the dream aren't going to communicate somehow you're mistaken and it's hilarious you quote the devs when you're all so busy bashing them using the same logic.

I've said it before I'm hoping they create a non swf queue and then you have to choose which one you want to play against as killer. Once you choose however YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT, meaning you can't ever leave that solo q no matter what.

Don't like long lobby wait times well tough cow patties, you got what you wanted and now you're stuck with it unless you buy another copy of the game. Because if there's only 30% of the player base that does solo q then you lot have to divy up that 30%.

The nice thing is killers that choose to stay won't be lobby dodging because they won't care, they'll get super fast lobbies. The survivors won't get lobby dodged anymore because they won't have to deal with it anymore.

Lastly this last parts would have to be once they buff killers up to swf level of course but then you'd have to come up with something new to complain about.

Your over exaggerated response kills your point. Yes there are 4 man teams with d strike. Not all swf teams are the expendables, as I said some play like ed, edd, and eddy. That's rare in high rank as most high rank teams play like the expendables. And totally, not just trapper gets hit. Anyone who uses hexes, stealth killers, traps has their information spread like aids and efforts canceled. The non solo que should be ranked only, and casuals could be swf. 

I cherry pick because of situations. I don't believe more than in 1 item, and I don't like certain ranks because I know what they want and expect in my gameplay.
I only DC because DBD made me, I pipped too gud so I quit.
Ranks and colors are the issue. You expect something but get the opposite.
C'est La Vie

@Orion said:

You DC because you choose to.
C'est ta nature.

Only because of what they do.

Not by the nature of what they do, but reaction of what they chose to be.

@Eveline said:
I will never understand dcing because someone has an item when the same killers use add-ons themselves. 

You can't understand a DC if they have to pee real bad?
I would understand it.

Dabrownman1812 said:

Eveline said:

I will never understand dcing because someone has an item when the same killers use add-ons themselves. 

Idk if you play killer deep rank once again, but you won't understand if you just play survivor and dabble lightly as killer. You will never understand until you play both from beginner to pro ranks. You can't see killer side so you cannot understand. I didn't understand the edges certain things have until I played killer from beginner to rank 1 and saw how certain things change. You make a post to ask but you can never truly understand until you play killer side for a bit. An swf with toolboxes and medkits probably instaheal is rough. 

You don't understand the effects on it till you play killer, killers have more variables to worry about than survivors in terms of gameplay mechanics. The worst I had to worry about as a rank 1 or rank 20 survivor was derpy teammates. Survivors don't have to worry about things like time, so I understand you don't get it, but most survivor mains never will unless they go deep as killer. I'm a survivor main but I'm deep in the ranks as killer and I feel the changes from items, swf, and balance patches from a killer point of view too. 

Eveline said:

Maybe you are right because I didn't play killer that much. Got to rank 8 when I stopped. I want to do it just so I can say that I am but I would waste time doing something I don't like.

It helps you be a better survivor as well, try going deep.

that's without add ons for the boxes which stacks the speed

Eveline said:

I am aware of that but being a survivors is sometimes too much of a rng thing no matter how good you are.

Sometimes it's rng, most of the time it isn't if you know map lay out and timing. A game with so much math involved has not much to do with rng unless it is in regards to windows and totems, killer spawn. Even if the killer spawns by you, you're saved by map knowledge, there are some guaranteed windows and pallet placing on every map. If you are strong as a solo survivor, buying 2 minutes in chase or more almost gaurantees the win. I use this timing in my survivor games and it always worked. Well, pre emblem. Anyway

Eveline said:

About the chase thing you are right but I never saw anyone being able to always do that. You can't run forever from a good killer even if you are a good survivor. And if your team is wasting time you are done for.

That's true, but 2 minutes isn't long on certain maps, most survivors I spectate in some ranks now don't know how to properly juke or buy time. Before emblems eveyone in a certain rank if a solo player in those ranks knew how to keep a killer busy for 1 to 1.5 minuted. Some killers mechanically cannot stop survivors from buying a certain amount of time due to the lack of tools. Not every killer has tools to help with looping and juking, it's not about skill as much as it is knowing basics and map. A skilled killer cannot do much against a just know the basics survivor in a strong part of the map. A smart survivor can maximize the time but an ok survivor can still buy time due to map design. Emblems made it easier for some people to level up and with the ps plus free to play event that passed,some people of low skill go to high rank.