Killer entitlement with the lobby cherry picking and dc's
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
that's without add ons for the boxes which stacks the speedBy the way you also forgot to mention that it doesn't includ hitting great skill checks either
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As a rank 1-5 killer and survivor Its easy for me to tell when Im being 4SWF'd. If you cant find anyone, gens are being done rapidly, and every save is exceptionally timed. Flashlight spamming and body blocking out the wazoo! When your perks arent counting for squat because the whole team knows where your hex is or always knows your position. Hatch location given away by spectators etc.
Basically it takes 3 to 5 minutes to tell if i am against a swf bully squad and then i will instantly dc
I give the group a chance to prove they are not toxic and if they are im gone!
It is currently the only way to combat 4 man swf bs. I refuse to play an unbalanced game against toxic people who use meta game tactics to win. So cry all you want survivors. Stop playing in a greiving manner and we killers wont have to do desperate things to make it even partly enjoyable.
Also, on a side note, survivors are famous for post game salt after being killed even though the whole team was running self care, decisive strike, unbreakable, adrenaline, borrowed time etc. Survivors at rank 1-5 all use meta perks and then whine when they lose and call the killer entitled lmao!
Point here is more survivors need to play as killer in order to truly understand the way the game leans towards survivor play. Otherwise the ignorance will never end...
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Some people would rather dc then get teabagged by claudettes, claudettes piss me off to no end lol. Something about them being 3 on a team p3.4
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I had some optimal plays as a solo survivor and some of you killers probably think those games are swfs too. I don't think you can actually know it all the time unless you are a God.3
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Nah, there's a way to tell, certain things inly swf can coordinate, there is optimal solo and optimal swf. Once you face enough you can tell. Solo can only operate in realm of sight, swf makes map wide playsEveline said:I had some optimal plays as a solo survivor and some of you killers probably think those games are swfs too. I don't think you can actually know it all the time unless you are a God.3 -
People who go hard on one or two survivors starting the game alone. Camping the only hooked one for example. Some of you said you go hard and won't go easy, why do you lobby dodge a survivor with a toolbox if he's going hard just like you are?2
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@Eveline said:
People who go hard on one or two survivors starting the game alone. Camping the only hooked one for example. Some of you said you go hard and won't go easy, why do you lobby dodge a survivor with a toolbox if he's going hard just like you are?Because when I go easy on Survivors, I get ######### on. When I go hard on them, I also get ######### on. I'd rather just give the last one the hatch if everyone else was a dick (DC'd, suicided, etc.) and get one grateful player. Should Survivors start being ######### when I do that, however, even that small bit of mercy will go away.
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I get ######### on by killers even tho I don't do toxic stuff should I start using DS then?1
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@Eveline said:
I get ######### on by killers even tho I don't do toxic stuff should I start using DS then?That's the result of toxicity going unpunished for so long - people have drawn their conclusions based on the big picture, and those like you and me are caught in the middle.
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Lol it's not just optimal plays, some things you can tell based on what is done and the time. After seeing things you can tell most of the time, not all the time. Things you can't tell unless you play enough killer and get a sense for it again.Eveline said:I had some optimal plays as a solo survivor and some of you killers probably think those games are swfs too. I don't think you can actually know it all the time unless you are a God.0 -
Yes I go hard, but I never said I dodge a toolbox.....
And define toxic? To many of the jokers here on the forums, just playing for keeps is "Toxic".
To which I say, "whatever"
In the end, just play your own goddamn game and stop worrying about how other people play. That's most of the damn problem around here....
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@grtf47 said:
Yes this needs to be done. If all you pussy killers that can’t verse a swf with toolboxes or flashlights have a problem git guud and don’t say I don’t want to deal with this or that blablabla. I don’t want to deal with mori but I still do and don’t dodge lobbies because you suckAnd still for some reason survivors always magically cant connect to my game when I use a hidden offering.
And ingame it happened quite regularly that I 4ked but since everyone DCed during the mori, I didnt get the daily
Is the 1st issue on console?
The later I absolutely hate and still haven't gotten my Myers done because it's always 1 person hiding by hatch and or dcing the moment i get number 2 or 3 done.
If you're in permanent Evil Within III and have met the conditions either everyone hooked and have Ebony Mori or Tuft and tombstone and they quit it should auto count towards the achievement.
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I try and not play my P3 Claudette unless I'm the only 1, I don't bring an item if I see one of that type in game. If I see 2 items i don't ring an item.
That's so the killer doesn't dodge the lobby and also so the killer doesn't just tunnel me because i want to bring an item to earn bp faster.
I keep my profile private and get dodged all the time but I don't do it for killers but because I'm tired of dealing with trolls since Steam came out.
Besides killers checking profiles just to see how good you are is stupid since why play killer at that point. It's as bad as survivors doing it to killers to see if they want to lobby dodge or dc.
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I'm on ps4. How can they tell if I'm swf or toxic?0
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Do you play as laurie, meg, claudette? The world hates those survivors, and nea. Just a natural bias. Rip.Eveline said:I'm on ps4. How can they tell if I'm swf or toxic?1 -
I play Kate.0
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Kate! Maybe, some killers have nonsense religion when it comes to games.Eveline said:I play Kate.0 -
It's probably just being cocky and toxic. In most games survivors teabag at the gates. Killers pose after they hook, nod, hit you etc.
It's annoying but I guess there are a lot of immature people with fragile egos who get so salty and power hungry that they have to torture you for no reason.0 -
When multiple people join at the same time you're in a SWF group. I also play on PS4 so we have some common ground here. Why are you even looking for killers to be punished for because for Dodging a match? Sure it's not cool but it's lot better than what one of my friend which start a match a match then leave so she could De-pip. She was a rank 3 and she did this all the way to rank 15. Keep in mind she do that's about 50 75 times. I hate people who DC from games. dodging a match... I see no harm in it. quiting a match randomly sure if it's a Survivor... I mean if they not after getting downed or after getting hooked sure. Killer? If it's at the beginning or maybe less than a minute. It's not that bad. Do it right after the same match... no you're no better than a rage quieter.Eveline said:I'm on ps4. How can they tell if I'm swf or toxic?1 -
@Eveline said:
I am aware of that but being a survivor is sometimes too much of a rng thing no matter how good you are. And as a survivor you can't manipulate it since you can't see the killer in the lobby. And you don't know how capable your team is. As a survivor you go in totally blind and much of your fate depends on your team. As a killer you are on your own, you make a mistake it's only yours.As survivor you make a mistake and it´s only yours. Leave the team out of this.
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Yes it is but if the rest of the team make too many mistakes you are done for. Like it or not being a survivor means playing a team based game.1
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You can do a gen with someone, they blow it up killer comes, you done. You can get hook farmed, body blocked, baitted etc.0
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If the others play bad, but you play good, you might not escape. But get enough points to pip.Eveline said:Yes it is but if the rest of the team make too many mistakes you are done for. Like it or not being a survivor means playing a team based game.Post edited by Tsulan on4 -
@powerbats said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@grtf47 said:
Yes this needs to be done. If all you pussy killers that can’t verse a swf with toolboxes or flashlights have a problem git guud and don’t say I don’t want to deal with this or that blablabla. I don’t want to deal with mori but I still do and don’t dodge lobbies because you suckAnd still for some reason survivors always magically cant connect to my game when I use a hidden offering.
And ingame it happened quite regularly that I 4ked but since everyone DCed during the mori, I didnt get the dailyIs the 1st issue on console?
The later I absolutely hate and still haven't gotten my Myers done because it's always 1 person hiding by hatch and or dcing the moment i get number 2 or 3 done.
If you're in permanent Evil Within III and have met the conditions either everyone hooked and have Ebony Mori or Tuft and tombstone and they quit it should auto count towards the achievement.
No, PC. I still have not achieved myers achievment due to DCs, but honestly I gave up after the 3rd sucessfull run being ruined by Dcs^^
Honestly, I actually dont care too much about the abyssal amount of BP you get as compensation and that you lose dailies/achievments if they would punish for DCing at least.
But no, instead the biggest fog streamer that is supported by BHVR deranks regularly by DCing, such a irony
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In all games people will teabag or taunt fo lolz, smash bros, cod, doesn't matter. It's an online ego thing.Eveline said:It's probably just being cocky and toxic. In most games survivors teabag at the gates. Killers pose after they hook, nod, hit you etc.
It's annoying but I guess there are a lot of immature people with fragile egos who get so salty and power hungry that they have to torture you for no reason.0 -
@DeadByFlashlight said:
No, PC. I still have not achieved myers achievment due to DCs, but honestly I gave up after the 3rd sucessfull run being ruined by Dcs^^
Honestly, I actually dont care too much about the abyssal amount of BP you get as compensation and that you lose dailies/achievments if they would punish for DCing at least.
But no, instead the biggest fog streamer that is supported by BHVR deranks regularly by DCing, such a irony
PC also and I've pretty much given up on it as well, I'll hold off until rank reset since everyone's trying to rush through it at that time.
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@Eveline said:
Yes it is but if the rest of the team make too many mistakes you are done for. Like it or not being a survivor means playing a team based game.You can mitigate the mistakes of your teams and their bad plays with the right game awareness and selection of perks. Especially if you forbid yourself from thinking "Stupid Team" the moment you die and discipline yourself to ponder "What could have I done differently?" instead.
You can't mitigate ALL the mistakes your teammates make (And they will make a lot, I won't deny that), but you can consistently pip despite your teammates if your competent.
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Sometimes I don't want to be curb stomped by a team doing all the gens in under 5 minutes.
I mean, against a well coordinated team, why am I even there?
If I see people pop in at the same time, they're swf. I don't need an indicator beyond that. Sometimes I will play with them anyhow, though, but I don't expect to get much done. Depending on the pace of the game, I'll camp a hooked survivor. The harder they squeeze me, the harder I squeeze them. They're annihilating the gens anyhow.
It's getting common on ps4, and someone even tried to party with me when i play survivor.
That said, i get these tactics exist, and why. Not saying remove it.
Maybe give killers a large bp boost against swf? Various amounts based on the size of the swf? This may help indicate how many were solo players in a match which might prevent blaming the entire group for swf when some were solo.
A reward to make them more interested?
It doesn't have to be BP, but i can't think of another reward off the top of my head.
Maybe create a reward system based on how fast the match is? A faster match nets a larger penalty?
Or maybe deduct points from survivors if they rush too hard?
Or from a killer that, somehow, pushes the game to end quickly beyond what a normal loadout might allow?
Or, lets make a kill with friends! 2+ killers vs swf teams! Lol jk
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Well looping starts around that rank. Also survivors finally know how to aim the flashlights.Eight said:@Eveline said:
Maybe you are right because I didn't play killer that much. Got to rank 8 when I stopped. I want to do it just so I can say that I am but I would waste time doing something I don't like.Why don't you like it?
But that's just my guess.4 -
I'll take the De-rank part.
Then I can do what all those SWF groups do and sit at low ranks to "Have Fun".
Would help find lobbies faster as well. Waiting half an hour to get lobbies at high ranks is boring.
Sign me up :chuffed:
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SWF or not doesn’t matter to me anymore. Playing on PS4 there is always one dude who doesn’t ready up and you watch his ping shoot up, down, up, down, up, down... as he frantically invites everyone to party chat for voice comms cause he’s too chicken ######### to play without em. I accept all items cause I know how frustrating it is to bring a toolbox cause you want to do that damn Sabotage daily and you get dodged.
I only dodge for high ping. Even then, I’ll acdept any Ping up to 300ms. Anything higher, sorry no thanks. Laggy games are no fun for anyone and I’m tired of being accused of lag switching cause the idiots can’t watch the ping indicator.
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@SovererignKing said:
SWF or not doesn’t matter to me anymore. Playing on PS4 there is always one dude who doesn’t ready up and you watch his ping shoot up, down, up, down, up, down... as he frantically invites everyone to party chat for voice comms cause he’s too chicken ######### to play without em. I accept all items cause I know how frustrating it is to bring a toolbox cause you want to do that damn Sabotage daily and you get dodged.I only dodge for high ping. Even then, I’ll acdept any Ping up to 300ms. Anything higher, sorry no thanks. Laggy games are no fun for anyone and I’m tired of being accused of lag switching cause the idiots can’t watch the ping indicator.
Have you ever thought to wait until that guy has finished inviting everyone and then dodge?
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Rank 8 is when the survivors slowly start using their brain and killer becomes a lil bit harder
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I’d never get a single match then. It’s literally every single match.Tsulan said:@SovererignKing said:
SWF or not doesn’t matter to me anymore. Playing on PS4 there is always one dude who doesn’t ready up and you watch his ping shoot up, down, up, down, up, down... as he frantically invites everyone to party chat for voice comms cause he’s too chicken ######### to play without em. I accept all items cause I know how frustrating it is to bring a toolbox cause you want to do that damn Sabotage daily and you get dodged.I only dodge for high ping. Even then, I’ll acdept any Ping up to 300ms. Anything higher, sorry no thanks. Laggy games are no fun for anyone and I’m tired of being accused of lag switching cause the idiots can’t watch the ping indicator.
Have you ever thought to wait until that guy has finished inviting everyone and then dodge?
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@SovererignKing said:
Have you ever thought to wait until that guy has finished inviting everyone and then dodge?
I’d never get a single match then. It’s literally every single match.
I get the same on pc as a survivor more than 1 item in lobby, they dodge, more than 1 Claudette even bright orange, dodge. You bring out your prestige when n one else has it dodge, 1 person has a flashlight dodge.
You might as well just remove all items and add ons from the game until some killers stop lobby shopping. Since at rank 1 right now a lot of killers lobby dodge while around 25% take it all on unless it's 4 flashlights then I don't blame them.
I don't ever bring a flashlight unless I'm the only 1 or there's been a rash of Wraith campers or Hag campers. I've got a huge stockpile of flashlights, Medkits, Tool Boxes, Maps, Keys all because I can't bring them into a game without getting a near instant dodge.
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Simple rules to avoid getting dodged (PC):
-Don't be the one that brings the 3rd item of the same typ.
-Don't be the 3rd one in ninja outfit.
-Don't use streamer tags in your name.
-Don't use killer mocking nicknames
-Don't use your clan tag.
-Don't hide your steam profile to cover up your SWF.
-Don't join a bunch of Ochido fan groups.
-Don't join any DBD find teammates groups.9 -
Nothing is more beautiful than getting the full ebony off on a ps4 clan of 4Wolf74 said:Simple rules to avoid getting dodged (PC):
-Don't be the one that brings the 3rd item of the same typ.
-Don't be the 3rd one in ninja outfit.
-Don't use streamer tags in your name.
-Don't use killer mocking nicknames
-Don't use your clan tag.
-Don't hide your steam profile to cover up your SWF.
-Don't join a bunch of Ochido fan groups.
-Don't join any DBD find teammates groups.2 -
Nope. I don't like it because it doesn't appeal to me to be the villain and it's kinda lonely.
Didn't find it hard at all. When I played both of them I had more trouble getting to that rank as a survivor even tho I played survivor more. I love how people just assume things. Especially the same one that got offended by my posts and keep witch hunting trying to provoke me.
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Wait, so survivors are the good guys?Eveline said:Nope. I don't like it because it doesn't appeal to me to be the villain and it's kinda lonely.
Didn't find it hard at all. When I played both of them I had more trouble getting to that rank as a survivor even tho I played survivor more. I love how people just assume things. Especially the same one that got offended by my posts and keep witch hunting trying to provoke me.5 -
Ok, if they are to scared to play Fair, then there's nothing you can do about it.SovererignKing said:
I’d never get a single match then. It’s literally every single match.Tsulan said:@SovererignKing said:
SWF or not doesn’t matter to me anymore. Playing on PS4 there is always one dude who doesn’t ready up and you watch his ping shoot up, down, up, down, up, down... as he frantically invites everyone to party chat for voice comms cause he’s too chicken ######### to play without em. I accept all items cause I know how frustrating it is to bring a toolbox cause you want to do that damn Sabotage daily and you get dodged.I only dodge for high ping. Even then, I’ll acdept any Ping up to 300ms. Anything higher, sorry no thanks. Laggy games are no fun for anyone and I’m tired of being accused of lag switching cause the idiots can’t watch the ping indicator.
Have you ever thought to wait until that guy has finished inviting everyone and then dodge?
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@Tsulan said:
There's more than 1 wiki?There's the official wiki, and then there are clones trying to mooch off its success. It's the same with all other media - there's always a main one and one (or more) that just copies it, usually run by someone who's immature and power-hungry.
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Didn't know that...Orion said:@Tsulan said:
There's more than 1 wiki?There's the official wiki, and then there are clones trying to mooch off its success. It's the same with all other media - there's always a main one and one (or more) that just copies it, usually run by someone who's immature and power-hungry.
Thx for sharing4
