Dead Hard is overpowered...

if you are playing Nurse you should have no problem with Dead Hard if you know that person has DH. If you are struggling against DH as Nurse then you just need to get better lmao

Git gud

Someones depressed that they getting their Face handed to by Dead Hard so they cry it needs a Nerf

dead hard is Just fine where it is and how it is doesnt need any touch ups

Dead Hard is only effective if you use it effectively. You said Dead Hard uses no skill. False, If dumb people are using Dead Hard it is a a easy down. On the other hand if smart people are using Dead Hard why utilize it really well and it takes some kind of skill to bait out a hit to make it to the next tile with Dead Hard. If you just haphazardly press E for Dead Hard without some sort of after plan you just costed yourself a down. Smart players use Dead Hard to avoid getting down. If they use it once and you miss, remember that so you can bait it out. If they use a perk effectively and you fall for it, that is entirely for fault. Just because someone used a perk to the best of its ability doesn’t mean it should be changed.

Why do you have to kill a survivor 24 times than 12? That number is not accurate at all

1)If they mess up, Boom a down that’s already -1

2)If a survivor Dead Hards to a new tile and they know how to loop, you are wasting your time chasing them when you could be patrolling gens or applying pressure to other survivors.

3) They are injured and are more vulnerable, they bleed out blood, they have grunts of pain( if they don’t have iron will). Although that’s the point of Dead Hard is being injured, but that’s why people run it. So they can survive longer in chars while injured

4) You can’t use Dead Hard while being healthy, compared to all the other exhaustion perks, so in theory it should have a useful effect, Right?

When you run Dead Hard you run the risk of knowing you can’t use while healthy, you know that Dead Hard is inconsistent. So their is a risk in running Dead Hard, so you have to be smart abt it.

All of the Exhaustion perks are fine, ever since Balanced Landing got nerfed which was a good change. Every exhaustion perks had it uses. Also I don’t understand why Balanced Landing is a second chance perk?

DS should be changed, it should turn off when you do anything else other than running away.But I don’t use because some games I don’t even get to use it.

Soul Guard is ok it is only good when combined with other perks like UB. Like every perk, by itself it could be ok at best, but when paired up with other powers or other perks it could be powerful. If the killer isn’t even running any Hex perks than the second part of Soul Guard is not usable.

Unbreakable is only a one time use perk , If they use it they have a inactive perk slot, other than recovering faster. If you have all for survivors slugged and they have unbreakable and they get up, then that is your fault for trying to slug for the 4K. Don’t be greedy just hook them.

i don’t really understand why the Devs nerfed Ruin, it was really good and in a good spot because it waste time looking for the totem and it encourages to hit great skills checks to get better at the game. Ruin was a good and healthy perk of the game, because it encourages a good play style.

The Devs need to balance out really bad perks to make them good to shake up the meta. So you won’t only see the same 8 perks every game. I would rather honestly see perks reworked or buffed/nerfed before I see any new content.

Also if it a 0% chance on winning against survivors using certain perks than this game would be dead and killers would stop playing this game. But that’s not the case because people are winning against the survivors with those perks.

Most of survivor perks are either straight up bad or too situational. Stop crying about perks that are a useful. We never see you guys trying to buff the useless survivor perks. It's all nerf nerf nerf.

I think most of you need to get good it's not hard to bait dead hard.

If you mean broken as in, it doesn't work, then sure

😂😂

Man I love coming to these forums for these nutty killer main posts

It's pretty easy to count on. Play accordingly. From a killer main. Yes is it troublesome when they use it to extend a chase, of course. But once you know its there its OK to play around.

Bad players will complain about literally anything, geez

i think head on better perk i hate it as a killers,i hate chases someone not think run pass a locker with head on user inside.

why you one of those annoying survivor?

But then if they buffed Dead Hard all of the salty killer mains would get mad and demand for a nerf 😕

Lmao I died when you said, "literally triggers every forty seconds." I mean literally you don't have a brain. First off, it is impossible to trigger every forty seconds unless you're walking or sitting still. It also can only be used when you're injured. And people whining about it extending loops are people who fall for dead hard over and over and just need to get good. People need to understand this is a game of the mind. You need to ######### use your brain to out think the other person. If you're losing because of perks like dead hard, then you need to use your tiny brain to think of how you could become a better killer and be able to counter said perk. And if you can't think of how to become better yourself. You should consider watching players like Otz and find out what they do different from you.

All Exhaustion perks are overpowered. Every Exhaustion perk removes the ability to punish a survivor out of position. It removes the ability to punish playing greedy. That isn't really balanced. But it is what it is :)

If you're thinking Dead Hard sucks because you just bait it or it doesn't work half the time, I'm not surprised you don't think it's strong - clearly you've never seen or used it properly yourself. After all, what's another loop or two, which can then pull you to another loop, that DH buys you in the long run, right?

Damn Head On really be overpowered

sigh

DH is not working for about 75% of time cause of awful servers. An expereinced killer can just wait for you to use it. It is clearly not op

No its not, as soon as the killer swings to you you are just pressing E and gain a second chance. And that 3x per game. If the killer respects it you can try to wait your DH out and use it exactly when he swings. But in many situations the killer just cant respect it, or he plays a killer like nurse and cant really counter it. It doesn't really take much skill at all you just face the direction of a pallet or window and press one button. Or just DH away from his hit.

At the first point you are actually right. But that's also with other exhaustion perks, like of course if someone plays dumb he would still get downed fast. Its just not really hard to use DH smart or just the way you can delay the chase out even more. You can respect it yes but in many situations you just cant. For example if they DH to a Pallet or a window which is really often the case. You cant tell me that it took them skill they just presses E and got a second chance for nothing.

For the second thing you usually gain 3 second chances of DH and if all 4 survivors run it which is often the case its 12 second chances. So you just have to kill them double the amount of times than usually. Of course survivors can mess it up but I didn't count it there, its just if you would say the survivors dont mess a single one up. And also its not really hard to mess up DH.

1) Yes of course if someone messes up his exhaustion perk he goes down how is that a point? Its just that it is really easy to use and takes no skill. And for that you just get so much value out of this perk by simply having the double amount of lives.

2) If you would leave that survivors he would just go work on a generator or get healed by his teammates. Or he also just has a medkit to get healed quickly. As soon as you chase them later again they just have DH back again. All 4 survivors running DH... You wont be really getting any kills. Since the survivor is already exhausted you should just try to get him. But just the fact he can waste so much of your time in a chase by simply pressing one button. And that 3x for each survivor. With the current gen speeds its nearly impossible to beat a strong swf if they all run these builds. The swf can also be weak as long as they are working on gens and they are not completely braindead you wouldnt have much of a chance. the only way to beat that would be a Omega Blink Nurse on The Game, Silent Hill, etc...

3) Its not hard to get healed. A swf usually keeps everyone healthy and heals themselves up really quick. And even if you don't heal if you leave the survivor because he is wasting to much time by pressing only one single button which takes no skill he is just gonna work on a gen. As soon as you chase him later again his exhaustion will be gone. They will have 2 heal states practically. And if they healed 3 heal states.

4) If you use these other exhaustion perks while being healthy you can use them anymore while being injured since you are exhausted. You cant use DH while being healthy but while being injured. You can just use the perk at a different time. I mean yes the other exhaustion perks might save you more from even getting injured so DH should be good for it being worth to use. But this is just too strong by simply having double the amount of lives. If it would take skill okay sure, but this is just bullshit.

By saying you have a high risk to just be exhausted on the ground you are just saying if they fix it than it is even stronger. I still don't understand why people use this argument. Yes okay than you are often exhausted on the floor. But doesn't that mean as soon as they fix their dedicated servers you would just have an even stronger DH?

Yes the other exhaustion perks are fine the way they are. They might even buff balanced a little bit since it is really weak compared to other perks. On some maps you can only get it by the basement stairs. But for the reasons that I just named I think DH should get changes. I also stopped using it, one reason it of course that it doesn't work everytime. But also because I think its just a unfair perk for the killer.

Yes you are right with the DS thing. It should just actually be a anti tunnel perk. And not a 1 minute god mode for survivors to work on gens. And than if you want to slug them for presure they just jump in a locker. I just started waiting infront of the locker until their ds is gone and than facecamp them. They are just abusing that perk so much since its meant to be a "Anti-Tunnel Perk".

Soulguard is not really strong if the killer doesn't run a hex perk. But for that it is even stronger when he has that. I just think it shouldnt give you the BT effect when you recover with Unbreakable (Or No Mither). If they would change it like that Soul Guard would be perfectly fine. A really strong anti slug perk if he has a hex perk. And even if he doesnt you get BT for every time you get off the floor.

If survivors are all close to each other and cant split up. And you just can injure all 4 of them its their fault. And they basically get a second game by simply using unbreakable even tho the game would already be over. Or if a survivor is in a pallet and all others are nearby trying to get the pallet save there is no other choice than slugging them. You are right if they use Unbreakable they only have 3 perks. But you also have to think about the killer only having 4. So its 4 Perks vs 16 Perks, and even if they all run unbreakable and get to use it they get a lot of value of it and its still a 4 vs 12. As I also said I don't know what you could do but a few small changes would be fine. Some perks should also be stronger than others and its not that strong. Sometimes you dont even get to use it.

Yes you are right the devs should also buff weak survivor / killer perks. Because its also their fault that these meta perks are used every game. You cant blame the players they are just using the best perks and thats what everyone else would does.