Console Players and Self Care

Consoles are a more casual platform so the more casual perks are used there.

You will rarely see a console player doing all sorts of calculations to figure out how to heal and save a few seconds. They just want to play the game not necessarily play the most optimally.

There are a few exceptions, if you disagree with my analysis you're probably one yourself.

When I used to play on console it was because the games tended to be a lot slower on the killer side as well so when playing against killers on console there wasn't as much punishment for simply self caring, as well as there being a simple lack of precision with movements compared to pc, or at least a steeper learning curve for less experienced players due to it. Self care isn't a bad pick for console at all it's just a different meta due to different options available for different systems.

I revised your math for you:

0 Seconds to not heal = 32 Seconds to complete generator

You are a burden to your team by running Self-Care, and require your teammates to run the killer for longer loops in order for progress to be made on generators. Run Adrenaline instead, and learn to loop killers while injured. If you don't feel confident looping the killer, run Decisive Strike. If you have ethical qualms about using DS, run Poised. If you don't have DLC, run Spine Chill and Resilience (and maybe Unbreakable).

Self-Care might as well be a killer perk that prevents survivors from healing eachother, because of how beneficial it is to slowing the game down for the killer. Assuming you have just been taken off the hook, consider the following...

The survivor who unhooked you spent time running to the hook and must spend time running back to their gen to continue making progress on the survivor's objective. One survivor is either looping the killer or hiding from the killer. That leaves only one other survivor to be making progress on the objective--assuming they did not also run over for unhook, or are not hiding because their teammate ran the killer in their direction.

By choosing to self-care, you are effectively halting the progress on survivor objectives. In the unfortunate, but likely, circumstance that another teammate falls sometime before or after you are unhooked, the vicious cycle repeats itself. Only this time, you have taken yourself out of the equation to Self-Care, and there is an even greater chance that no one will be working on generators for a short period of time.

It's like saying why most 
killers carry bbq is that 
they can't play without it

The only time I've ever hated self care is when sloppy butcher is involved. If you're aware the killer has sloppy, please just find someone else and get healed, do not waste those 40 seconds in the corner of the map healing yourself.

Inner strength is better. Don’t @ me.

i believe you should be bringing up better examples cause your build is obviously not meant for healing, let alone you have that malicious add-ons that's pretty much a gg if you know what you're doing, even if you don't have self care.

not saying i don't believe you, but you know that there should be more convincing match result to prove that self care can be whack.

Okay and most of my PC teammates DC after they go down within 30 seconds and my PC killers mori console players specifically. If you hate it so much then leave lol. ✌

It's like PC people are suddenly not okay with things *some* console players do that PC players have been doing for how long now as well. 😂

I wish these people would just turn cross play off already.

Urban Evasion isn't really a bad perk in of itself, just often the people who run it tend to be the Blendettes who use the "I'm going to do literally nothing, never touch a gen, heal anyone, unhook anyone, or a totem, let everyone else die then teabag the baby killer at the hatch GGEZ" strategy. Usually they're a hindrance to a team.

Like it's ok to be "immersed" and play stealthy, as long as your butt is on a gen or totem whenever you are able to and you otherwise contribute to the team. (Personally I can't loop well, so I'm a gen jockey who aims to get gold lightborn) If you just crouch-walk around the map while survivors die on first hook and the killer isn't even camping, we have a problem.

I play on xbox.

I have deliberately been running an Oni build that theoretically is only viable on a couple of maps, yet am finding success with it on every map BECAUSE I can expect Self-Care when I see the crossplay icon. The point stands that my gimmick build is completely viable every match due to the astronomically large population of console players who believe Self-Care is the best perk in the game.

This should not be the case.

The OP's initial comments call attention to the surprising number of Self-Care gamers on console, and is simply questioning why it is so trendy, when in reality it is an inferior perk.

Unless survivor is self-caring next to another survivor, its not a waste of time.

Whenever I take a Healing Perk I will always go for Inner Strength

Ahm ... be Happy its on of your bests Perks... you have 4 + 1 free. ^^

I think the idea is that (a) a Self-Care heal takes longer than a teammate or Medkit heal, and (b) people with Self-Care have a tendency to use it to heal before doing anything else. So if a Survivor with Self-Care is injured, rather than wait to heal and focus on objectives, safe hook saves, or what have you, they'll go off somewhere and waste 30+ seconds healing themselves.

Yes, if you self care twice you've cost the team 1 generator time, but if you are healed by another twice, you've still cost the team 1 generator time.

2 survivors - 100% healing and not doing gens (16+16+16+16) is just as much loss in time as 1 survivor - 50% healing not doing gens (32+32), and if that surv can instead pop on gen with others while you self care, the gen will go faster having more people on it. Actually aiding to heal a survivor with self care is negative gen time in this instance.

Pairing it with Botany Knowledge and/ or using it for Medkit efficiency, with Self-Care itself as a backup, can probably be useful, but on its own and overused not so much.

well, that is 16 seconds, but that 16 seconds are not spend by me, but another survivor. I still dont understand how that is better. Because its 32 Seconds in any case, if healed by others its just shared by the two players not doing anything else.

I already gave a concrete example with numbers. plz use that and show me how one is better, or show me where my math is wrong.

You are still missing the point. 16 seconds is not a time saver. 2 people are wasting 16 seconds.. 16*2 = 32 seconds.

A + B + C are on generators for 32 seconds and D is self Care for 32 seconds (1 person to go find a gen) Lost 32 seconds on generators.

A + B are on generator for 16 seconds and and C + D are healing for 16 seconds. (2 people to go find a gen) Lost 32 seconds on generators.

Do you solo survive? I never trust who I'm with.

What if teammate botches a save, or runs like a wild man after a rescue when you are facing a phased spirit, leads the killer to you, or keeps pinning you down for heal when you are trying to run cause you see the killer. It is a lot easier to see someone leaning over another than squatting yourself when you know you are safe. Also, not everyone has DLC. How can we just say use inner strength? isn't that from a DLC? and even if you have it, should you run around for an additional 30 seconds, groaning to find a totem that may or may not be out there... who knows cause there is no totem counter. Too many variables to just flat out say, 'NO', it should never be used.

Again, I'm not running self-care, but I think it could come in handy coupled with med-kit.

Because not everyone runs the dumb meta of dh ad ds and is