New killer wont have counterplay.
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You cant limit perks to people who play with friends. Most swfs are not optimal. Punishing people who play with friends will be a turn off when playing this game.
Buffing solo to the swf on com level is what I'd say the biggest problem killers have with swf. Then buff killers accordingly. It's truly a hard question to answer which is why the devs ignore it as much as they do.
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If you arent gonna say anything meaningful go away it's all speculation if you wod have read my post you would know that.
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Do you by any chance know which versions of what addons they were running? because Ive seen some fast shock therapys with stacking the purple and green Discipline but I still recuperated before the next one landed, albeit with barely enough time to vault, however that could again be him making mistakes, Im not saying it's not a powerful power, I just disagreed that it was mindless.
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That's not what I said you want to delete someone in the game before they can even get points. So in other words you want tunnel freely.
You dont really care about getting hit by DS when not tunneling (make it reactive when someone else Is hooked) it's the fact that you want to get someone out 2 minutes into the match. I cant feel much sympathy for you then.
Also saying just some get caught holds the same value as "git gud." Just dont get gen rushed would be the equivalent but I would get swarmed by killer mains which is understandable because thats not how that works.
20 seconds of pressure is still better than nothing you have a brea thing room that's 2 people off gens assuming you are chasing one is that not good enough for you?
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Sorry, debating speculation and crying its definitly more meaningful.
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I forget I'll ask my friend he was a doctor main and told me after the game and I'll get backed to you. He quite literally spammed his shock there were no well timed shocks to stop loops just spam.
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No one is crying simply a discussion of balance and the trend of the past to killers. Even a baby could see this worrisome pattern.
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And here I thought people begging to get morid by Myers were a bit weird...
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We go through this every time a new killer is released.
Chill.
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well I do
I geuss i just don't mind doing other thing then chases.
I don't mean to sound like i favor one side because i don't.
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I have no idea why people keep saying buff solo to swf and buff killer accordingly it wouldn't work and killers couldn't win if you made bond and kindred basekit and map wide and everyone becomes the obsession(so people know who is in a chase) what buff can you even give the killer
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New killer is trash 😂
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So about that no counterplay...
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New killers sucks the biggest d.
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The new killer may be trash, but his perks are good tbh
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If they are easy to catch yes, I'll remove them. If you think DS only protects survivors vs hard tunnelers then you're delusional. I don't see survivors getting punished for real by some killer perk for ending games in 5 min before killers gets any points.
I want to be able to punish mistakes, if survivor manages to run into me 1 min after getting unhooked I'm not tunneling him but he still gets to DS me. Same when I multi hook survivors and then one of them runs with his active DS to make a save, both survivors now have DS and I have wait or leave both beiing horrible options.
I need to really cut these off. Starting long debates over things that aren't even main focus of the discussion is so pointless.
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that the only good thing and survivors perk are trash i feel but the survivor looks ok lol.
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Yeah true, looking forward to running devour, ruin, toth and undying. Undying makes retribution obsolete
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That's nice you play both sides but during discussion you truly sound like you dont care much about survivor.
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Well doesn't everyone favour one side more? It doesnt stop you from seeing others points of view and having discussion.
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i'd say run retri instead of toth. sure, toth reduces the speed and gives more bloodpoints, but i think U and retri together have the bigger combo potential
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I never said it only protects survivors vs hard tunneled. I just said you yourself want to tunnel freely so your complaints about DS are hard to sympathize with you. I dont condone gen rushing. I dont even like gens stop with the whataboutism. That isnt even what the argument is is about so stop the strawman.
I told you if you never hooked a survivor and the previous runs into you duringntjose 60 seconds and you pick him up you deserve your DS. Also the multi hook situation just deactivate it when anothers are hooked.
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See, that's the problem. If you push people away who's opinions you don't like, you're left with an echo chamber. So what if somebody favors one side of the other? By that logic, killers that have issue with DS shouldn't listen to survivor sided reasons for it's existence. If that's the case, how do you compromise? How can you 'view things objectively' if you push others of differing opinion away? How can you have a discussion if all that's left are people that parrot what you think?
You imply wanting people to prove their experience when you spam '1v1 me' to anybody saying the killers of your choice 'have no counterplay.' That shouldn't be the case. I may have greater skill than you. Would that make my point more relevant than yours? You might stomp me. Should that validate your point? Or can you just watch the thousands of hours of streams, mix with your own experience, and come to a conclusion? You don't 'need' to 1v1 somebody, especially in a game that isn't made for 1v1.
I agree the chase is the best part. Deathslinge rand PHead are great anti loopers, and deny part of that chase potential. But then, when matches fly in just a few minutes, that's needed. My guess, both killers are answers to long time complains for gen rushing. Part of gen rushing comes from great loopers that can waste an enormous amount of time at a loop. Personally, I thought they were a breath of fresh air. Well, PHead, that is. I still pick Huntress over Deathslinger.
So what if I favor killer more? My view, or anybody that favors a side, shouldn't be taken any less objectively. If I said you appeared survivor sided, should anything you say be thrown out and regarded as moot?
If you want a debate, and that appears to be the case, with you posting on an open forum, you need to have both sides in on it. You're never going to find a purely objective player, because everybody has tastes. That doesn't negate validity to arguments simply because one side enjoys the other more.
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Now, have you seen the new killer? He's hot garbage, from my view. His perks, though. . . mmm. Those look tasty.
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I favor survivor side more but I do definitely want some buffs to help killer. But you shouldn't be ignoring one sides problems because you favor a side more.
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Where were one side's problems ignored, both sides need lots of change imo, utterly useless perks plague both sides for one.
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Why you ge trailed you are a pretty cool guy.
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If you have to beg for a 1v1 then it invalidates your argument, the counterplay is to avoid getting hit by the spear by using cover and strafing
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I dont know how many times I have to tell you before you understand he does not look at things from a survivors pov and says things like "oh you want easy killers to loop." I'm on with you favoring one side but you need to be able to see opposing pov to properly have a discussion. He doesnt do that well so I rather not discuss with him.
Once again if you can claim x but can not prove it what gives any of your claims validity? I could care less if they were good or bad but all I get is slinger has counterplay so I say ok let's do a 1v1 chase and show me it. Why cant you show me it? You have dodged my question of wanting to play a custom so you can show me. And regarding the experience of players ok so if you are less experience why are you making such a bold claims it boggles my mind. Yeah i dont need to 1v1 anybody but if you fully believe your claim be able to back it up. Once again the 1v1 is the most interesting part but that's next.
PH, Deathslinger have disgustingly oppressive anti loop it requires very little to no skill to preform such anti loop. This causes survivor players to feel cheated. Yes good loopers waste time and make you lose gen pressure but they are good why should they be hindered by a flawed designed killer? Why is the killer chasing a good player? That's a mistake they made they deserve to lose. You thought it was breath of fresh air because you play killer, killers aren't having a problem with slinger.
Back to this if I wanna debate with someone they better look at both side and understand each problem. I dont mind if you gavor killer that is fine. But when you say something like "you want easy killers" or "you just wanna camp." You argument becomes instantly invalid if you dont look at both pics.
The new killer needs work to make him better like more controller when rushing and methal rushing. The perks seem really good. Gonna have to see how they play out before they do nerfs or buffs.
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I'm not "begging" I'm simply saying if you cant prove the counterplay in a 1v1 wha tf makes your claim that the killer has counterplay true? If you cant prove your claim dont make it.
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I've seen hisnposts he typically doesn't look at the survivors problems and brushes them off as just wanting easy killers. Yes I do agree meta wont change with bad perks that oldont compare.
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I called someone a fart huffer 🤷♂️😂
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Yo I remember seeing that comment which post was it on?
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It got deleted, one of the gazillion "pc is better than console" threads
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Yup now I remember even though I've been clapping pc players on xbox. They really got nothing on us console guys. Take a look
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New Killer is revealed now. Take a look for yourself. It is The Blight, aka the Alchemist. His new perks are crazy boye. He himself is counterable, but I fear that, much like Bubba, people will take his perks and leave him in the dust.
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So I checked in on the forums today because of the rush of activity from a new killer. I checked the new perks, survivors got a meh, a situational and a a strong perk. The new killers perks sound extremely bonkers to me. I think the new hex perk is kind of overhyped as a hex build type thing and also soul guard exists. The other two perks seem kind of strong. And of course, with every new strong addition to killer or every new weak addition to survivors, people come to the forums to complain about both the weak survivor perks and strkng killer perks.
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As a killer main, I don't how strong his power is yet but his add-ons seem insane.
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Which new hex perk do you think is overhyped, he's got two.
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New Killer is revealed to be The Blight. He is now testable (along with his survivor counterpart), and his perks are crazy boye. He himself is pretty easily counterable, because he's difficult to maneuver about with his ability, but I imagine that, much like Leatherface, people will get him solely for his perks, and never use him. I mean, his perks are CRAZY.
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Trying him out his power is pretty fun to use but the collision seems a bit wonky. He seems pretty fun to go against too, so thats an upside.
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I made this before he was revealed the killer seems weak but I'll just wait until he gets played and tested.
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He hasn't even been out for one day chill tf out.
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This was made before he came out
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Yeah, can you see why complaining about something you know nothing about might be a bad idea?
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you start a 6-page argument for nothing.
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I was never complaining it was pure speculation based off of their last 2 killers.
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yea but new killer not like PH or GS look like we should worry about his new perk then the killer him self.
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well that one will make NOED more broken then survivor think they have to take out all totems.
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That's even worse tho lmao.
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You called it.
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