New survivor. New Killer. No new map?

Is this a chapter release or simply a " paragraph " as they call it?

It's considered to be Chapter 17. But this one doesn't have a map because that team had to upgrade the graphics on existing maps right now.

I don't know. I don't work for BHVR to know their decision making process, resources, or resource allocations.

Well, my previous post being the disclaimer, I personally feel that they're behind on things announced in the anniversary stream and the decision makers want it out the door. So, no new map, get the graphics into the game. Launch MMR (obviously) before it was ready. Get it into the game. Launch the PTB, even though the build on it is not the current build and even McClean would not play it on his stream because the build on PTB is too frustrating to play in comparison to the build they have internally but did not have time to put on PTB at reopening. Launch crossplay, even though consoles are having major FPS issues since the last patch.

And so forth. I feel like right now the leadership is forcing it out the door and hoping it works good enough. But we see with MMR how that can backfire.

There's like one big bug and it's hilarious.

The map sizes are already reduced enough. The only one that feels really wide is Red Forest, but that's not even too bad when you consider it's only one layer unlike Midwich which has more vertical space. If they reduce the average map anymore survivors won't have enough space to hide. The auditory tracking alone would be too easy.

They really should add a new map. The only things the old maps need now are things like a few more crow spawns and that's it. A new map would be exciting for the old guard players and it would be good to use the lessons learned in the last few maps to apply here.

We had Dead Dawg and I think everyone agrees it's one of the best maps to come out for both sides. The breakable walls feature being used extensively, the totem spots were interesting, the use of bushes became paramount for survivor yet subtle, the vertical generators were close to the center while the difficult to capture gens were on the periphery- those all made for an interesting and balanced map. Then there was Midwich, which I think confused a lot of players in its function and made gates stressful on purpose for survivor but predictable and a saving grace for killers. These two maps did however prove that each map is getting better at crafting lore and ambiance into the setting when compared to the earliest maps. The details are stunning or sometimes creepy but always compelling. The exit gates to Dead Dawg come to mind as well as basically every part of Midwich.

A new map alone could do its part to revitalize the game for old players.

Interesting. I've never heard anyone complain about it, but there are something like 40k players at height iirc and I would guess three times as many that have played regularly since that map was released.

Not a single one. When I talk about how much I love the map usually people agree in the after game chat, even if they were taking a verbal dump on me beforehand. Haddonfield is only hard for killers, I've never seen it complained about by survivors. Same with Badham. The Game is the reverse- it's the one map I think everyone knows is hard for survivors. It's hard for new killers because it's not intuitive where the steps are but for stealth characters it is a dream.

I play a lot of killer though so I hear most feedback coming from survivors rather than killer mains.

I play about 60% killer 40% survivor, and if I get it while playing Doctor,Slinger,Huntress,Clown or Wraith I usually get one person complaining 'I got carried by map rng' and when I get that map as survivor I've seen a lot of killers complain, that its Ormond lite, both of which complaints I dont see the reasoning for.

Did Father Campbell chapel not come with Curtain Call? I know its linked to the nurse's lore but did it not release with that chapter?

" I'm not a fan of all these more recent maps."

Why would you not be? You like staring at cornfields? Are you from Indiana by chance?

Actually the 3 original realms are all my favorites. These more recent maps have all been pretty bad imo. Midwich, Sanctum, Dead Dawg, Hawkins. Been a long time since we got a nice map actually.

My thought on it is that Maps are played on by anyone in game whether they purchased the chapter or not so they really aren't part of the "chapter" but rather part of the Patch. Paragraphs were just a single new character introduced to the game.

This patch will be adding updated Gens, Chests, Lockers and essentially 7 full map updates (all 5 Badham variants and Both Yamaoka maps) Realistically they could remove the variants to Badham since they're all super similar anyway but that still leaves three full map updates along with utilities that appear on every map with updated animations for them. Not to mention updates to broken pallet and wall debris.

My hope is with each chapter and midchapter patch they update another realm or two along with giving us some new maps along the way.

I agree completely. The newer maps are more fun all around and full of flavor.

I wish they did new map for dlc and had the graphic updates be part of a mid-patch update.

there was some leaks and pictures (real) about a "Zoo" Map,but i don't know what a zoo map has to do with the blight or the new survivor,maybe the next chapter is going to have a zoo map?