Black Lock Keys shouldn't be in the game.

@Doctor_Derek said:
can people stay on topic for once. yes killer has some stupid stuff. but the discussion is about the black lock keys.

Can you answer my question?

I've never had a team use a key on me before. So I don't really think that this could be that big of an issue. This might happen once every 500 games? I'm not sure on the stats. I think there's just a lot of other things that are busted and actually make an appearance in the game.

I RARELY have matches where someone actually gets to use their key, and when they do it doesnt upset me lol, Most of the time only one person gets out anyways.

I've played for more then 1000 hours and haven't seen someone escape using a key.. the items are unreliable and not really worth making a thread to complain about it. If all 4 escape through the hatch that means the gates were powered and you probably would lose anyway.. if only 1 or 2 escape with it you've still won overall. 

How do they ruin it though?
-4 escape via Key? Well the gates are already powered, and you lost since 4 are still alive. It's extremely rare anyways. Unless your build is all end game, it's not really changing a whole lot.
-3 Escape? Well you got 1k, that's not great but whatever. Survivors managed to get 4 gens done. Sucks, but hey better luck next time.
-2 Escape? Darn that sucks, but it was probably super tense/exciting for them. You still got a 2k, still a win imo.
-1 escape? Well, they don't even really need the key in that case... unless it was a quick escape while the other is on the hook. Could be pretty clutch if you're right on top of them and they stumble across it mid-chase. Again, you still won even if it isn't a 4k.

Keys can provide for exciting and clutch moments as a survivor. It's still pretty rare that they're actually useful. I fail to see how they ruin anything, in any case it's already game over for one side or the other, except the rare instance of 1 escaping via hatch before it's actually opened (someone still alive/in struggle) and again, you still got a 3k so...

Doctor_Derek said:

@Orion said:
Why do you think they ruin games?

At any time during the match, people can leave. If the killer is doing well and the survivor is like this is lost, they just leave, which ruins the game for the killer (which matters. they are a player in the video game).

Also if the survivor doesn't think the team they're on is good for whatever reason, can open the lock and ditch them, which is also not good.

Anything that ends the game prematurely is just bad game design. It abruptly halts the flow of the match in an un-fun way for a lot of the time.

@Doctor_Derek Like, @Vietfox said.... the same thing can be said about Ebony Moris.

At any time during the match, the killer can just down a survivor and end them right on the spot.

Also if the killer thinks the team they’re up against is good for whatever reason, they can camp, tunnel and mori them or better yet DC which is also not good.

it’s unfun. I am kindly asking you to not give me the “stay on topic” bs because of contradiction.

ZombieGenesis said:

@PinkEricka said:
At any time during the match, the killer can just down a survivor and end them right on the spot.

I love when the SD Jack Off squad storm a thread and complain about things that don't actually exist. There's not one mori in the game that lets' a killer down someone and end them "at any time".

As for keys, I dunno. I've never encountered enough of them to say that they ruin the game. They may ruin A game but that's not the same thing, you know? It's a one-off random thing that takes a nunber of certain things to fall into place for them to get to use them. It's not like they pop into the match and instantly escape (though if I use survivor logic maybe that's how I should view them). See someone bring a key into a match? Go after em before they can use it.

@ZombieGenesis I didn’t think I needed to imply that part about the Mori since everyone already knows how mori’s work. No need to overlook.

I’m just stating facts that’s contradicting to what this guy is complaining about.

There’s a certain amount of survivors that need to be alive in order the for hatch to spawn, so he would have to at least kill one survivor unless he sucks at killer. He sounds like he’s one of those killers that think they’re entitled to 4K just about every game but I’m not going to peg him in with those types of killers just yet.

He can just bring FD or like you said, camp and tunnel. I honestly don’t see it as a big deal.

@PinkEricka said:
When you say “SD”, are you referring to @SenzuDuck? Might as well @ him to be more direct.

I haven't even commented in this thread, he simply can't keep my name out of his mouth, loooool.

@PinkEricka said:
SenzuDuck said:

@PinkEricka said:

When you say “SD”, are you referring to @SenzuDuck? Might as well @ him to be more direct.

I haven't even commented in this thread, he simply can't keep my name out of his mouth, loooool.

@SenzuDuck Don’t stress, feel blessed! 💖. I’m honored to be a part of the squad.

It's funny because I've not spoken to a single person from this forum out of the forum, yet you can see they follow each other around upvoting each other malicious comments, where as I get "Lold" despite answering someones question.

I'd gladly give up Moris for Dull and Skeleton Keys.

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka
They mistook @SenzuDuck for me as well, lol.

@Vietfox I honestly had the impression that you and @SenzuDuck were friends every time I saw you guys commenting in the same thread.

You two have the same avatar and talked alike so I figured y’all were buds or something, I don’t blame anyone else who thought the same either. 

@Vietfox said:
PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka
They mistook @SenzuDuck for me as well, lol.

@Vietfox I honestly had the impression that you and @SenzuDuck were friends every time I saw you guys commenting in the same thread.

You two have the same avatar and talked alike so I figured y’all were buds or something, I don’t blame anyone else who thought the same either. 

Lol @PinkEricka no
I'm the drunk one and @SenzuDuck is the sober one

Basically, it's fine to attack me, but whenever I get into a conversation with one of "them" they literally all dive in and I have to juggle 3/4 conversations at once.

@Tsulan said:
What´s the difference between black locks and dark locks btw?

Racial tension.

MegaWaffle said:

@Tsulan said:
What´s the difference between black locks and dark locks btw?

Racial tension.

I mean, look at the descriptions of the keys. One opens black locks and the other one dark locks. 

Well this is certainly a silly thing to complain about.

Key escapes are way too rare to even complain about.

Tsulan said:

What´s the difference between black locks and dark locks btw?

One is black one is dark