Undying should not reveal auras.

My suggestion was to swap them kinda. Make ToTH give the aura reading but at a much larger zone (12 or 16 meters) to go with the theme of hunting. Give undying the notification when a hex is touched.

Seeing auras and actually being able to get to them are two different things altogether.

I had a match today where both Undying and Ruin were cleansed within 40 seconds of the match starting. I couldn't even get to either of the totems (on Blood Lodge) before they were gone (I saw the aura of the person cleansing Undying, but not the person on Ruin). Until totems on all maps are actually remotely difficult to find (in the above example, I wouldn't be shocked if rhe survivors had spawned directly in front of the totems), the aura reading, while helpful, isn't game-breaking at all. The killer has to be both close enough for it to matter and not otherwise occupied (in a chase, carrying someone to a hook, etc.).

Just some corrections to start:

Thrill of the Hunt has no aura reveal (this is a specific thing I'll get into for Undying) and creates a noise notification similar to a generator explosion, fast action on locker/window/pallet or even Discordance Perk proccing every 8~12 seconds. It can easily be lost in the confusion of other noise AND Peanits himself has stated that all loud noise notifications like these have a minimum and maximum range. The minimum range is so you hear the noise but there is no bubble polluting your screen (You'll see something similar with someone missing a skillcheck in line of sight of you closeby) and a maximum range (especially on bigger maps) where there is no sound bubble at all. Basically it is weak and only the first few totems will be delayed significantly by thrill as each totem gone, another 6% of cleansing slowdown is gone with it.

Next they released Deathslinger's Hex: Retribution perk which gave Oblivious for 45 to anyone who cleansed your dull totems but also a full out AURA reveal on ALL survivors for 10 seconds regardless of who broke the hex totem including Hex Retribution itself.

Hex: Undying has a 2m AURA reveal around every totem for 6 seconds then it completely fades out - it does not refresh on the same person again from the same totem for an unknown amount (someone let me know if there is a specific time) of time but it isn't within the next 20 seconds from my personal testing.

@LittilAvindar This last part is fairly important. Though this aura reveal is far longer range it's a simple matter of counting to 6 in your head instead of immediately beelining for the totem. I play solo queue survivor at R1 constantly and normally left to do all 5 bones alone - and as a Killer player who has tried the combo... seeing someone "running by" a hex totem from the distance does not make me want to go towards them and reveal my hex location to them. Pretending to run by then returning after counting 5 "one thousands" our loud will almost guarantee that you won't get interrupted at that hex unless you were the ONLY one the killer has any idea for where you area. Keep breaking Undying/Ruin combos - it's very possible for me to do all 5 in solo queue without even running Small Game or Detectives hunch anymore (Though the latter is very helpful).

If I already said Undying was fine where it was at then why would I want to nerf it? Thrill should get something else.

I have a good bit of experience and my experience disagrees. That's how opinions work.

Killer that camp totems is biggest present to your team. Why would you want cleanse then? Just do the gens while he camping totems.

It shows the aura but other than that it doesn't give the killer a notification. If the killer is not near the totem it's unlikely they'll A: be able to get to it in time; and B: even notice the aura because a good killer will be almost constantly in a chase, carrying a survivor, kicking a gen, or breaking a pallet.

The only good aura perks for killers, imo, are ones that can be used in a chase (I'm All Ears) or give information to locations (BBQ), because they avoid time waste and against an optimal team literally every second counts, which in high ranks are over 50% of game.

Personally as someone that plays both sides I don't see an issue with Undying. You get a lot of BP for cleansing totems, most maps have consistent/highly visible spawns, unless you're pretty much on top of the Survivor the aura being shown is low risk for them, and there is no auditory/large visual notification for when a Survivor gets close to or begins working on a totem.

I think the aura should show when a survivor interacts with it not when a survivor is near/walking by it.

Undying and ruin is the new meta and it doesn't revolve around skill, it is more luck based in a sense due to how fast survivors will find and cleanse totems. It just give the killer more time and in maps like midwich, hawkings, mother's dwelling and other huge maps it makes finding and cleasing totems the main objective instead of the secondary. Ultimately makes the match very boring and too long. It definitely should be changed, maybe for a single transfer and without aura reading.

no, it should stay just as it is

the only high risk high reward hex perk in the game

Only aura reading when survivor cleaning the totem. Not 5 free aura reading in the map

Remove aura reading on Dull totems but keep the Aura reading for any active hex totem. Then just remove ToTH, because it's pretty much useless anyway. That's fair for everyone.

Both effects from Undying is far stronger than ToTH. I agree their info effects should be swapped.

Except Thrill doesn't reveal auras. Without it, the notification noise only plays after a totem is broken, meaning camp it, revealing it to anyone paying attention and lose pressure, or hope the ridiculous spawns are so bad they get immediately cleansed.

Survivors have OoO, Kindred, dark sense, and alert, ALL of which reveal the killers aura. Killers get Nurses, BBQ, Retribution, Iron Maiden, and Infectious Fright. All but retribution and Iron Maiden are distance locked. OoO is the only one NOT distance locked for survivors. As it stands, Undying is just doing what retribution SHOULD have been doing for active totems BEFORE they were cleansed to begin with.

So no.