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Discordance Nerf is Easily the Worst Balance Change I've Ever Seen in a Game
All you had to do was just flip the numbers. Make it so people will have to level Discordance up to tier 3 instead of just keeping it at tier 1, but you guys couldn't even do that.
Now people just flat out won't take Discordance altogether, now they'll just avoid it flat out.
"Any Generator within a range of 96 meters that is being repaired by two or more survivors is marked by a yellow aura. When the generator is first highlighted, Discordance triggers a loud noise notification on the generator. After the generator is longer within range or is no longer being repaired by two or more survivors, the aura remains for another 8 seconds."
- It's not global anymore. 96 meters are Tier 3 isn't anything to scoff at, but fact of the matter is old Discordance was global and there will be situations where new Discordance won't be active. This is easily one of the strangest changes about this perk and I have zero clue why BHVR thought this was too strong before.
- The loud noise notification only happens once. The loud noise constantly happening was a reminder that people were still working on a gen from far away, you didn't have to look to know how much time you were wasting on a chase or where people are on the map. For example with old Discordance, 2 people working on a gen, it makes a noise. You get into a chase and the noise happens again. You don't even have to look at the gen being worked on to know that you're chasing one guy and 2 people on working on 1 generator. That's 3 people accounted for and you're still focused on your chase. Why change this?
- The Aura remains for another 8 seconds. Why? You already took away the noise notification, why keep this antiquated part of the old Discordance and just make it go away instantly, or even after a short few second delay.
Discordance wasn't even good anymore. People hardly run it now over more powerful perks like BBQ&Chili, Ruin + Undying, Corrupt Intervention, etc. Why nerf a perk that people already barely used?
For both sides, there are actual problem perks.
Survivors: Decisive Strike, Unbreakable, and Object are too overpowered. Dead Hard flat out doesn't even work half of the time and there's still the problem of being exhausted on the ground even temporarily.
Killer: Hex: Undying is too overpowered, Hex: NOED is too anti-fun.
There are even more perks that are absolute garbage, Slippery Meat is still unrunnable and just a meme perk simply because Deliverance is such a better perk in every way. Stop nerfing perks that don't need changes and actually focus on the perks that people are complaining about. Give both sides more options for perk builds instead of taking them away.
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Was discordance really nerfed. I personally never ran it, but I never saw anything particularly wrong with it, especially with other perks that exist and are far stronger.
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It was one of those perks that if you were doing well, you kept doing well. And if you weren't, didn't matter.
Or it works for finding survivors early in the game then never again because they wised up.
Never leveling it up was broken and no one should be surprised they eventually did something to it.
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I would've been 100% okay with them just flipping Tier 1 and Tier 3's numbers and calling it a day. Tier 3 Discordance should've been the better perk and I wouldn't have minded spending the bloodpoints to fully upgrade it.
Problem is they didn't do that and they didn't even put it in the PTB for testing. As if that would've done anything anyway because Devs don't change anything from PTB to live except the most minor of changes
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the range is a nerf, as it went from unlimited range to 96m. Discord rank 1 used to be good to have because the yellow aura would go away quickly after survivors stopped repairing it, so you could get the information as you were heading towards it that they stopped repairing it and you would know to start looking for survivors, now it's a base 8 seconds after survivors stopped repairing.
It was stronger before, but it wasn't oppressive. It's just a legitimate stupid change.
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I don't see the issue with the range nerf. It only benefits high mobility killers and for everyone else it's a waste of time.
I'm going to walk all the way across the level just to see the gen pop in my face anyways? And it will pop in your face because two people are working on it.
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But the thing is, if they swapped the numbers round, other people would have been left unhappy. When I use discordance I prefer not to be spammed with noise notifications.
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I don't think that this is as big of a nerf as people make it out to be as 96 meters covers most maps. However, I don't understand why they didn't make the aura last 10/9/8 seconds for the different tiers and leave the range unchanged. Putting a range on it is unnecessary, especially since the tier 3 range is so big it might as well be infinite.
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Actually outdoor maps are 100 meters side to side but because they’re roughly squares they’re about 140 meters corner to corner. So picture a circle embedded in a square of the same width, that’s roughly what Discordance detects if Legion is in the center of the map.
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Oh great, another thing that needed a minor change getting a ton of them suddenly, while stuff that could do with a rework gets a few meters or seconds shifted if it gets any changes at all.
I like the devs, and balancing a game like DBD is probably confusing and complicated as all heck, but just why?
Why nerf stuff like Hangman's Trick, Franklin's Demise, and Discordance?
I genuinely don't see the need to.
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Really shows you who the devs value more, ohhh yeah.. survivors obviously, they don’t give a ######### about the state that killers are in and truly sad.
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I mean, on one hand I feel for the devs, balancing this game is most certainly hard.
But like... it's like they don't listen to the community at all. Ever since Discordance was released, people been saying to just flip the numbers around and fix the perk and they never listened. Such an easy fix and they never did it. Instead they completely change the perk when it's already not a popular perk to begin with.
The devs' problem isn't that DbD is a hard game to balance. The devs' problem is that they have no idea what they're doing and they refuse to listen to the community in regards to making changes
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I don't see how never leveling it was broken. I'm sure that their are plenty of people who would rathe level it as the constant noise notifications would be annoying.
I will say that the "benefits" of leveling it before weren't great, but I don't think that adding a range cap on the perk will be a good change for it.
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Consistency? A perk is supposed to get stronger the more you level it up. Anyone who accidentally bought it's upgrades are now ######### outta luck? That's bad design keeping it in the game.
And I see the range nerf more as a focus tool. I've said this before that a notification across the map only leads to wasting your time to see them pop a gen in your face.
Constant notifications are distracting as well. I don't see much of a downside to only hearing one explosion when multiple sources could potentially spam the noise. And you still get the visual notification.
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Discordance is bad now before the nerf i was using the perk to know where to go at the start of the match it take 2 sec and discordance activate now it took 10 sec before the perk activate because i was too far
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The problem I have with the decision is all my killers have tier one making it worthless. I now have to play perk roulette on the bloodwebs to upgrade it to tier 3. Most of my killers still have a lot of perks to go since I moved on to levelling other killers once I had the perks I wanted so it may take a while lol.
I agree though, they should have flipped the numbers rather than giving it range. Maybe OoO will be changed next, nerf its range.
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I don't really know why they nerfed it. Discordance was okay before the patch. Devs didn't even show us the change on the PTB and just put it into the update without saying. They should just make this perk work for 12/10/8 seconds not 8/10/12 and Discordance would be perfect. Shame...
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you have obv not seen the other changes this company likes to make.
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Like nerfing old Freddy, LOL!
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