A list of disappointments of 4.3.0

I thought the survivor addon was also event time only.

I agree with pretty much all this, just people complaining about mostly nothing when the devs have handed out like half a million BP in codes in the last month or something. The killer load in bug I find pretty funny, and it impacts nothing. Console performance has always been trash, nothing new there.

The only complaints I have are a few fat shame areas on the macmillan maps and that even when I am attempting to farm I can't get enough petals to offer one every game because the spots are taken up by the dash add-ons in many cases.

I believe they nerfed Discordance because of Undying + Ruin + Tinker. Adding Discordance made it almost impossible for survivors to progress in gens as information was presented all the time from a survivor soloing a gen or survivors doing gens together.

Discordance didn’t need a nerf but sadly it got one.

The majority of players are likely on Console.

There should not be loops that you cannot chase around else you lose the match. These are called "god loops" or "infinites" and should not be in the game.

Thana already wasn't good, I get that they need to balance it with other slowdown perks in mind, but seriously, it got nerfed.

Whats wrong with Spirit, like what was nerfed

Receive less rift fragments from challenges in this tome so you have to grind even more for the one Halloween skin on this rift.

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At least the shadow spirit nerf was good even if it might be a bug. Although ive been told that you are supposed to be able to hear spirits groans and footsteps while phasing and honestly i would be suprised if a bug like that existed for over 2 years.

Either way shes still S tier and just feels more fair now

I would disagree with three things out of the list and I actually have videos to support why on two of them.

"Spirit Shadow Nerf"

Spirit has had something like this coming for a long while now. Intentional or not, this really isn't a bad change and finally introduces legitimate counterplay for a killer that has had extremely limited if any counterplay at all. Spirit has always had all the information whereas survivors have had none, so the ability for survivors to intermittently hear a directional audio cue (which the spirit can EASILY use to her advantage) is something that is actually extremely healthy for the game. Scott Jund does a way better job at explaining this than I do though and he does it in about five minutes:

"Thanatophobia nerfed more than buffed"

This I disagree with from personal experience. I was on yesterday and I saw some truly disgusting and unfun builds come from the new Thanatophobia. Mostly / most especially from three killers: Legion, Plague, and Oni.

Almost everyone I went up against was running some combination of Thana, Ruin, Dying Light, Undying, or sometimes all of the above, and it's not like these are the only disgusting synergies there are plenty more that I know of and I'm sure more that I am not yet aware of. Thanatophobia and Ruin by themselves are a huge synergy after the change where now thanatophobia also affects TOTEM speeds. So it also serves as a totem protector perk now, so you've got slower gen. repair speed, increased regression, and then slower totem cleansing to protect Hex: Ruin providing that increased regression.

On top of a killer that can consistently keep you injured like Legion who can undoubtedly injure all four survivors in the shortest amount of time or Plague who can keep survivors injured because of the broken status effect (or get free corrupt purge, the most aggressive damaging killer ability in the entire game) and you're literally a powerhouse. In my personal opinion, not in a good "oh man this guy is doing a great job at applying pressure and he's powerful because of it" kind of way but in bad a "he's basically receiving free pressure due to the nature of his ability and the borderline unbalanced synergy of the perks he's running" kind of way.

And that's only two perks, HALF the loadout and you're already incredibly strong. Add Hex: Undying to the mix and not only will you be slower at cleansing Hex: Undying because of Thana which now synergizes with all Hex: perks, but Hex: Undying Protects ruin and can keep the train going for the entire game. Thana protects -> Hex: Undying protects -> Hex: Ruin. Add Dying Light to the mix and it can be nearly impossible to repair generators against a killer that's applying even a mediocre amount of pressure.

Synergy is good. But this is just too much.

"Pyramid Head nerf that horribly crippled him and his camera"

This I absolutely disagree with. Pyramid Head is light years away from being crippled and saying so is honestly deliberately misleading. If anything, the Pyramid Head change was a misguided attempt to fix a legitimate issue (free downs under threat of either M1 or POD is blatantly unbalanced, and not fun. Fight me.) but they went about it completely the wrong way and I would go so far as to say this was actually a shadow BUFF.

Not only did they not fix the problem they set out to change (you can still fake Trail of Torment and then cancel the animation switching to M1 thus resulting in the same problem previously, the only thing the change accomplished was change the timing which is something players can easily adapt to) but they buffed how quickly you recover from POD, an attack that literally ignores all collision and obstacles and is much easier to hit by comparison to other ranged attacks (like Deathslinger's Redeemer or Huntress's Hatchets) because you're only aiming on a horizontal axis.

All this does is it's going to ENCOURAGE Pyramid Head players to spam Punishment Of The Damned as often as possible. Hit or miss it doesn't matter since the cooldown is absolutely ridiculously quick. The distance a survivor gains after either is absolutely negligible and they are put in danger of being hit again almost immediately. Even more so if Pyramid Head has that survivor pressed against a loop in a corner with nowhere really to run all he has to do is keep. spamming. POD. The devs basically made Pyramid Head less skillful to play as, less fun to play against, and even more unbalanced than he was before, because now not only does he still have the same tool he did before of free downs under threat of M1 or POD with an animation cancel, but he has quicker recovery from Punishment of the Damned, an aggressive chase tool that was ALREADY powerful to begin with.

It's impossible to conceive that Pyramid Head was nerfed at all, even SLIGHTLY. To prove this, Otzdarva makes the exact same point during a match he played yesterday of the new Pyramid Head that lasted less than 10 minutes:

I want to make clear I wholeheartedly agree with every single other point made on the list. Not bringing back the time-limited event currency of the Putrid Serum and removing the entire aspect of the ability to earn rewards also removes any motivation to actually play during the event itself. THE ARCHIVES DO NOT SUBSTITUTE FOR ACTUAL EVENTS @DEVS. The eternal blight is arguably the worst event of the three blight events and that's absolutely impressive considering the negative reception and backlash the Withering Blight was, and it's arguably the worst event in the entire history of DBD.

Not to mention, if that statement is true this means that the Blight events have been progressively getting WORSE every single year, first being undoubtedly the best, most engaging, most fun, most immersive, with the best story, the best music, the best theme and atmosphere, best decorated lobby, etc. The second being a clear downgrade with little theme and atmosphere, no change in gameplay, after the removal of the visceral cankers being substituted with reskinned generators (this is no more FUN than normal gameplay nor is it INTERESTING), the story and lore was lackluster serving only to seemingly wrap up the story arch of the Alchemist rather than expand and / or answer the mystery of the Blight itself, but at the very least the Withering Blight still provided a goal to work toward. The Eternal Blight brings back the beloved visceral cankers, but removes all motivation to chase them down and harvest them since they are only worth bloodpoints and all ties to a reward system for them have been completely cut with the removal of the vial you would fill with Putrid Serum. With no rewards to work for, there is no Blight event, there are only reskinned generators (which are functionally NO different from normal generators) and visceral cankers which are absolutely worthless.

I always said the Never Stop Slashing cosmetic never had any technical limitations, that was clearly a pure and blatant lie and evidence can be seen throughout the entire game. The original premise of the cosmetic is supposed to change based on different actions and conditions (that's what MADE the cosmetic cool, that's WHY people voted for it) when the legion activates feral frenzy, the Mask changes expression when the Legion is stunned the expression changes, when the legion Mori's the expression changes again, etc. so on and so forth. OP provides the example of the entire character of the Oni, whose entire BODY changes when Yamoaka's Wrath, but not only this the perk Spirit Fury activates when a certain condition is met. When a pallet is dropped on you the pallet breaks immediately, how is that technically any different from making a mask change expression when a pallet stun occurs? The Blight has two different stun animations, when you're stunned with a pallet he raises his arm in defense, when he's stunned with head-on, he leans against his cane, HOW is this functionally any different. The answer: IT'S NOT.

Discordance nerf was absolutely needless. I agree. Not only that but doing this behind the community's back completely strips away the purpose of the PTB to begin with, to test out different changes and provide feedback.

Killers event item being time limited for the event but not the survivor equivalent absolutely displays a bias and double standard, the SAME double standard we already saw when Pop Goes the Weasel was nerfed but Decisive Strike (which is most definitely far more unbalanced) still hasn't been changed. Regardless of whether or not the Pop nerf was warranted, and regardless of whether or not it was an impactful change that really affected the viability of the perk, it's about the principle. In both situations the event add-ons and the perk changes, survivors are held up to a different standard, while killers get the shaft.

Etc. So on and so forth. I truly could go on and on about what makes this update and this event so frustrating, but I'm going to force myself to put a cork in it at least for this comment because it's getting too long.

sounds like you just aint doing it right

The bad negatives are so overpowering, that anything positive that the devs could have done past fixing what they've done incorrectly flew by me.

Missed opportunity indeed :,(

sounds like they just aint doing it right