Anyone Else Tired Of Killers Being Jokes?

@DarkWo1f997 said:
Black ops 4 killed this game on Xbox. No one is playing anymore.  

Look at this big old can of hyperbole.

@Eguzky said:

@DarkWo1f997 said:
Black ops 4 killed this game on Xbox. No one is playing anymore.  

This game is killing itself.

Because the Devs pander to the Survivors, which are filled with self-entitled ass holes that thinks they HAVE to win every match to the point of verbally abusing Killers who get even 1 hook (Not a kill, just a hook), it's common to see 3 to all 4 Survivors get away.

Which makes playing Killer a joke experience. But hey, the Devs made their choice: Either go Survivor or stop playing. They said it themselves. They don't care that the Killers are underpowered.

That the side of the fight that needs the freaking power to equal 4 survivors that need 3 hits MINIMUM to kill lacks that power. Because the Survivor mains would scream louder if they lost. Just like at launch.

The problem isn't going to change, either, if what I heard is true. I didn't jump into Deathgarden, but from what I have heard, Hunters were considered OP at early access launch. If that's true, then look at that game now. Lucky to have a 30-player peak in a 24-hour period.

If indeed true, and it helped abort Deathgarden in the womb as runner players left the game, then there is no way Killers will become what they should be to take on four opponents at once in DBD.

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@Eguzky said:
Seriously. I log into a match, and it's like I'm the caretaker at a haunted house.

Don't worry, little Survivors; I may scare you, but rules (Devs and bad balance ideas) state I can't actually hurt you.

Honestly, a good start would be, if someone spams crouch past the exit gates, the Entity blocks the exit for 5 seconds. Either stay on the map or run. Don't be a little #########.

Oh wait, one of the Devs pitched in with his view on nerfed Killers; 'Play Survivor or play another game. Civ is fun'

Hey, your own dev said it. Guess I won't tell people to buy your game, if you can't be bothered to balance it.

That is very true and it sucks.

@SenzuDuck said:
I mean, you could run towards them and smack them out?

I don't get why so many people get upsetti spaghetti over ground humpers, if they're triggering you, it's working!

Well, because if someone else comes while you slapped the person at the exit gate, they can also just run out without the danger of being hit... Try to think outside the survivor box.

This is talking about survivors in exit gates, you're probably not going to kill anyone if they're tbagging at the exit, like I said, move towards them. I don't understand what this "you might hit someone else and they leave" thing is about, there is no box to be thought about, they've already won if they're there lol.

@NextKillerSpongebob said:
You don't get it.

Imagine if there's only one person standing in the exit while you have noed. If you run towards him and hit him, you get the hit cooldown, during which time a survivor, that wasn't in the exit, can run past you and not get hit and thus also escape. Is thinking about those scenarios too hard for survivors?

You mean the scenarios that very rarely happen? If a killer is camping one gate with noed the other survivor would either be looking for noed or at the other gate, are two gates too hard for killers to understand?

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:
You don't get it.

Imagine if there's only one person standing in the exit while you have noed. If you run towards him and hit him, you get the hit cooldown, during which time a survivor, that wasn't in the exit, can run past you and not get hit and thus also escape. Is thinking about those scenarios too hard for survivors?

You mean the scenarios that very rarely happen? If a killer is camping one gate with noed the other survivor would either be looking for noed or at the other gate, are two gates too hard for killers to understand?

? What do you mean? Normal killers don't camp the gate...except maybe from rank 21 to rank 15 or something I guess. Been a while since I was there the last time. And those scenarios don't happen very rarely in the red ranks...

I want whatever you're smoking.

"What about the killers that stand at gates when survivors are in them, they can't go in and hit them out because they'll get blade swipe and another survivor will just sprint past them and leave".

How is a killer standing at a gate waiting for survivors to maybe run past him, not camping the gate? Good god lmfao.

@Eguzky said:
What Survivors fail to realize, because they are happy with easy-mode, is that the game is supposed to be scary for the survivor.

When it came out, you were not supposed to be able to fight back, except for lucky pallet stuns and BS flashlights.

If a Killer had you carried, you were supposed to worry it was all over unless another random survivor you never knew risked his/her neck to save you.

SWF: Removed the risk of 'will he/she save me?' because you go in AS FRIENDS & can communicate. This game was not supposed to [BAD WORD] have communication or it would have had in game voip.
But Survivors whined and flailed and pitched a tantrum and got Survive With Friends, which make Killers a joke.

Again: You were supposed to be in [BAD WORD] danger
I'll say it louder for the people in the back
KILLERS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DANGEROUS

Now?
Pallet Loop (Run in a circle until the killer is near, then drop the pallet. You WILL make it to another before the can break/go around the pallet. Repeat again..and again..and again. The killer has to spend upwards of 60 seconds just to hurt you ONCE, or let you go. Not very scary, huh?)
Decisive Strike
Sprint Burst
Self-Care
Adrenaline (Which [BAD WORD] HEALS YOU)
No Mither (Which lets you get up)
Unbreakable (Which lets you get up)
Dead Hard (Which is like Sprint Burst but ALSO deletes your hitbox for a few seconds)
Lithe (You vaulted? have a free Sprint Burst)

You will note I left out:
Boil Over: Since Iron Grip counters it
Deliverance: Since it only works if the user is not first hooked AND they save someone before being hooked themselves

But that leaves 1 tactic and 8 feats over 4 Survivors, which can share feats.

Yet Survivors will vehemently say Killers should not be buffed. Why?
I'll say it again, since stupidity needs to be clubbed down:
KILLERS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DANGEROUS

But they are not.

Survivors flip a pallet: They twerk.
They Sprint Burst to a pallet and then Self Care. They drop the pallet on the Killer and Self Care further because the bar does not degrade.
They then run to another pallet, drop it, self-care, now Sprint Burst is off cooldown, so away they go.

The Killer, who is supposed to be the large, dangerous 'Don't get caught you tool!' thing, Is. A. [BAD WORD]. Joke!

I'm half tempted to link my livestream from yesterday, even though I lost my cool:
I actually had a group of Survivors trying to troll me with the most OP perks and items, because Survivors are OP.
They ONLY lost because they NEVER played a generator. If they had had 2 braincells, they would have won. But they wanted to bully the Killer.

Yes, the [BAD WORD] 'Oh god, I'm so scared!' in every cinematic Survivors WERE BULLYING THE KILLER

That's how unbalanced this [BAD WORD] game is.

But as long as Survivors flail and pitch temper-tantrums about how Killers are 'strong enough', the people in charge of balance will listen. Because Survivors make up a majority of the players, and these fools want money FAST instead of a balanced game with a happy playerbase willing to buy things.

They'd rather appease the brainless masses who would leave if the game became a challenge for Survivors, like it should be.

What an absolute wall of nonsense.
Survivors got better, killers got better.
The amount of crying you guys do a new player would come to this forum and assume no killer has ever killed anyone in this game before.

Get Better, lol.

@Eguzky said:
Even the Trapper..Survivors will literally sneak along and disarm his traps behind him.

Why? Because he's not scary, his traps are a joke, and Survivors have enough safety nets to get away is spotted.

You know, the same survivors terrified in every cinematic are tip-toeing behind the Trapper, disarming his traps with a 'Tee-hee'.

But no; Killers are fine. I need to git gud. Blah blah, same stupid BS Survivors always spout to keep from being nerfed properly or prevent the Killers from being buffed.

'The survivors are SUPPOSED to counter Killers and poke them with sticks and hump their legs and pee on them and shake their asses like Candi on a Friday night! We could have SWORE the cinematics showed that!' - The Dev Team.

I know you don't want to hear "Get good" but get good. Go watch any good killer streamer and watch what happens with people that try to ######### with them.

This is what all the whiny killers need to do, you come up with all these excuses and scenarios that may or may not happen so you can whine about them. Then in another thread you brag about how easy it is to hit rank 1 and get 4k etc. In another thread you'll say something completely contradictory about anything and it'll keep going to other threads.

If you really are that frustrated there's a simple solution, UNINSTALL and go play CIV V. 😜 Now in case you didn't see the OBVIOUSLY INTENSE SARCASM OF THE ABOVE IT'S MEANT AS INTENSE SARCASM !!!!!!!!

But in all seriousness I see almost exclusively excuses for killers being bad or scenarios that they can do something about then when confronted with options they change the narrative. IF someones at the exit gate and won't leave you chase them out. But oh someone may run past me, well geez if they're not injured they're going to run past you anyways.

Oh but I can't get my NOED hit in then, well gee they others are probably looking for it or going to you know the other exit gate. But then I can't camp this exit gate, well then go camp the other exit gate or I don't know go look for the people.

It's all about the excuses now and not about getting good, do you think Marth or Tyde or any of the top streamers is going to come to the forums and whine about how hard it is? No, they go into their games knowing there's an imbalance and yet still can get 4 kills because they don't make excuses.

They actually learn both sides and the strengths and weaknesses of everything, they learn the maps, totem spawns etc. They don't go into a match with woe is me it's not fair I'm not going to do well attitude, they go in with the intent to kill and do their best.

If they do good, great if not they accept that and move onto the next game and try their best again. They most definitely don't sit there in a pool of victimization and then come to the forums and complain about how unfair it is.

As far as coming to the forums they have voiced their concerns at least Marth has but if you look at his post it's reasonable and rationale and there's not an ounce of victimhood or whining in it.

@Eguzky said:
Ok then. Please tell me there are changes coming for The Nightmare?

I hear he's pretty trash-tier and, having just tried him..Eh? I can see why but he does not FEEL too bad.

I mean, he has to spend precious time getting people asleep, which is a downside, but he can see people who are asleep, which is good.
(Personally, I would have given him that see-everyone-vision when they are AWAKE and he can't do anything more than sleep them. Not when can actually hurt them, as a balancing factor)

But the major flaw to Freddy is that Self-Care basically neuters him. You can wake up at will (provided you get a skill check to fail) anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Just fail the self-care healing check.

Sure, it gives a yell, but now Freddy can't hurt you for a few precious seconds.

Personally, I'd alter some of his add-ons:
Give him 1 or 2 that slow down survivors in the Transition phase. (Not the Awake or Asleep phases) But they don't stack.

Or maybe an add-on that forces a difficult/hard/extreme skill check if hit with the Transition Phase while doing something requiring a skillcheck?

Eh, just ideas to make him a little bit better, maybe.

They've stated in one of their previous streams, a couple of weeks ago that freddy is the next killer to be changed. They also stated one change they'd like to make is that self care wont wake you up.

@SenzuDuck said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Holy #########! You're a survivor main incarnate...

Is it called camping if a killer waits at the exit gate for 10 seconds because he sees one other survivor except for the guy in the exit? Are you actually mentally ill and can't think of scenarios or what? Your ignorance pisses me off quite a bit!

"Checks gate for 10 seconds, moves to next gate, survivor leaves out gate he just left"
I don't get why you folk get so upset
I've probably played more killer than you ever have so I really don't get why you're calling me a "survivor main incarnate" because I don't cry at every thing survivor do?

calling someone a "main" is what you say when you cant find anything wrong with their points.

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@Global said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Holy #########! You're a survivor main incarnate...

Is it called camping if a killer waits at the exit gate for 10 seconds because he sees one other survivor except for the guy in the exit? Are you actually mentally ill and can't think of scenarios or what? Your ignorance pisses me off quite a bit!

"Checks gate for 10 seconds, moves to next gate, survivor leaves out gate he just left"
I don't get why you folk get so upset
I've probably played more killer than you ever have so I really don't get why you're calling me a "survivor main incarnate" because I don't cry at every thing survivor do?

calling someone a "main" is what you say when you cant find anything wrong with their points.

no. It's when someone is only talking about the ''easy stuff for killers'' and saying that scenarios survivors come up with never happen when they do happen often. And I found flaws with his points the whole time, he just blatantly denied them all the time...

Not at all, i just pointed out how stupid your scenarios are.

"what if theres a a survivor in the exit gate and i go to hit them and the ninja survivor thats been stood next to me decided to run out at that exact time" I also said "You mean the scenarios that very rarely happen?" not scenarios that never happen, you're just flat out lying to make me look bad now.

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@Global said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:
Holy #########! You're a survivor main incarnate...

Is it called camping if a killer waits at the exit gate for 10 seconds because he sees one other survivor except for the guy in the exit? Are you actually mentally ill and can't think of scenarios or what? Your ignorance pisses me off quite a bit!

"Checks gate for 10 seconds, moves to next gate, survivor leaves out gate he just left"
I don't get why you folk get so upset
I've probably played more killer than you ever have so I really don't get why you're calling me a "survivor main incarnate" because I don't cry at every thing survivor do?

calling someone a "main" is what you say when you cant find anything wrong with their points.

no. It's when someone is only talking about the ''easy stuff for killers'' and saying that scenarios survivors come up with never happen when they do happen often. And I found flaws with his points the whole time, he just blatantly denied them all the time...

Using someones favorable role as a way to shoot down their points is elementary. If you hate killer enough to complain enough about it just dont play it as its obviously not fun for you to play so whats the point of playing a game if it isnt fun?

p.s no im not a survivor main

@Eguzky said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Eguzky said:
Hey, do devs even read abuse reports and the like?

I'm tired of my Obsession disconnectling like a tiny child to cheat me out of my Obsession-based perks.

And it's clear it happens in SWF modes (such a really [BAD WORD] stupid idea, Devs), where one player will take the hit of a disconn to give his buddies an easier time.

oh my god, stop.
People rarely disconnect in SWF just trying to find every excuse under the sun to blame SWF, it's easy to beat, this is a case of the "get good".
and reporting people for disconnecting as "abuse" is the dumbest thing ever and will most likely have your reporting abilities limited.

I'm sorry but no.

But a little ######### disconnects because he's the Obsession (which as happened multiple times.) so his friends have an easier time, he's [BAD WORD] cheating.

And no one does this in non-SWF modes because they won't take the hit for strangers.

This is an SWF and Obsession problem. And [BAD WORD] everyone who does it.

### are you complaining about, if someone DCs its a 3v1 with 5 gens and you win the game. Who cares about your perks.

@Eguzky said:

@ScottJund said:

@Eguzky said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Eguzky said:
Hey, do devs even read abuse reports and the like?

I'm tired of my Obsession disconnectling like a tiny child to cheat me out of my Obsession-based perks.

And it's clear it happens in SWF modes (such a really [BAD WORD] stupid idea, Devs), where one player will take the hit of a disconn to give his buddies an easier time.

oh my god, stop.
People rarely disconnect in SWF just trying to find every excuse under the sun to blame SWF, it's easy to beat, this is a case of the "get good".
and reporting people for disconnecting as "abuse" is the dumbest thing ever and will most likely have your reporting abilities limited.

I'm sorry but no.

But a little ######### disconnects because he's the Obsession (which as happened multiple times.) so his friends have an easier time, he's [BAD WORD] cheating.

And no one does this in non-SWF modes because they won't take the hit for strangers.

This is an SWF and Obsession problem. And [BAD WORD] everyone who does it.

### are you complaining about, if someone DCs its a 3v1 with 5 gens and you win the game. Who cares about your perks.

It's a 3v1 with the 3 in voice chat. Then basically ensures the final survivor gets away because they can say 'I found the hatch, so just try to get off the hook. We;ll deny the Killer bloodpoints'

And before SenzuDuck says no one does that, you know how I know they do?

They #########-talk me after the match, taunting me about the bloodpoints lost because 1 got away scot free, and they ######### my perks over with a bitchconnect.

Sure, I don't need to hook everyone, but disconnecting to get around Perks is CHEATING plain and simple.

And this game was never meant to have SWF. It should either be removed, or allow Killers to opt-out so we don't have to deal with cheating and greifing little douchebags.

Lol, again with the "every match i've ever played is SWF" good god you're destined to always be bad at this game if this is your outlook.

@Eguzky said:

@ScottJund said:

@Eguzky said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Eguzky said:
Hey, do devs even read abuse reports and the like?

I'm tired of my Obsession disconnectling like a tiny child to cheat me out of my Obsession-based perks.

And it's clear it happens in SWF modes (such a really [BAD WORD] stupid idea, Devs), where one player will take the hit of a disconn to give his buddies an easier time.

oh my god, stop.
People rarely disconnect in SWF just trying to find every excuse under the sun to blame SWF, it's easy to beat, this is a case of the "get good".
and reporting people for disconnecting as "abuse" is the dumbest thing ever and will most likely have your reporting abilities limited.

I'm sorry but no.

But a little ######### disconnects because he's the Obsession (which as happened multiple times.) so his friends have an easier time, he's [BAD WORD] cheating.

And no one does this in non-SWF modes because they won't take the hit for strangers.

This is an SWF and Obsession problem. And [BAD WORD] everyone who does it.

### are you complaining about, if someone DCs its a 3v1 with 5 gens and you win the game. Who cares about your perks.

It's a 3v1 with the 3 in voice chat. Then basically ensures the final survivor gets away because they can say 'I found the hatch, so just try to get off the hook. We;ll deny the Killer bloodpoints'

And before SenzuDuck says no one does that, you know how I know they do?

They #########-talk me after the match, taunting me about the bloodpoints lost because 1 got away scot free, and they ######### my perks over with a bitchconnect.

Sure, I don't need to hook everyone, but disconnecting to get around Perks is CHEATING plain and simple.

And this game was never meant to have SWF. It should either be removed, or allow Killers to opt-out so we don't have to deal with cheating and greifing little douchebags.

My god you are whiny. Throw on Dying Light if you want to punish your obsession for disconnecting. If you're so worried about the last guy getting the hatch, slug the 2nd person and kill the third.

@Eguzky said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Eguzky said:
Hey, do devs even read abuse reports and the like?

I'm tired of my Obsession disconnectling like a tiny child to cheat me out of my Obsession-based perks.

And it's clear it happens in SWF modes (such a really [BAD WORD] stupid idea, Devs), where one player will take the hit of a disconn to give his buddies an easier time.

oh my god, stop.
People rarely disconnect in SWF just trying to find every excuse under the sun to blame SWF, it's easy to beat, this is a case of the "get good".
and reporting people for disconnecting as "abuse" is the dumbest thing ever and will most likely have your reporting abilities limited.

There you go again. Disconnecting like that is an actual abuse and renders most of the killer obsession perks as useless. You are just biased and I am not going to talk to you anymore...

Omfg, it's not abuse at all. It's unsportsman like. I'm not being biased I'm simply stating that if you think it's "abuse" that's stupid.

They LITERALLY STATE IN THE RULES NOT TO REPORT DISCONNECTS. PLEASE continue to tell me how I'm biased about warning some entitled killer not to get their report permissions revoked.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest

Let me say this louder, since you can't seem to understand where I'm coming from:

IF SOMEONE DISCONNECTS TO RENDER YOUR PERKS USELESS. IT'S [BAD WORD] CHEATING AND ABUSING A BADLY CODED SYSTEM

Let me say this clearly - they track DCs and if someone does it enough they will be banned. Nobody knows what your perks are until they DC, and seeing as "every killer runs DS" which I've seen you claim they have no idea whether it's because of their DS or your perks so please stop being so whiny.

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Eguzky said:
Hey, do devs even read abuse reports and the like?

I'm tired of my Obsession disconnectling like a tiny child to cheat me out of my Obsession-based perks.

And it's clear it happens in SWF modes (such a really [BAD WORD] stupid idea, Devs), where one player will take the hit of a disconn to give his buddies an easier time.

oh my god, stop.
People rarely disconnect in SWF just trying to find every excuse under the sun to blame SWF, it's easy to beat, this is a case of the "get good".
and reporting people for disconnecting as "abuse" is the dumbest thing ever and will most likely have your reporting abilities limited.

There you go again. Disconnecting like that is an actual abuse and renders most of the killer obsession perks as useless. You are just biased and I am not going to talk to you anymore...

Omfg, it's not abuse at all. It's unsportsman like. I'm not being biased I'm simply stating that if you think it's "abuse" that's stupid.

They LITERALLY STATE IN THE RULES NOT TO REPORT DISCONNECTS. PLEASE continue to tell me how I'm biased about warning some entitled killer not to get their report permissions revoked.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest

Why is disconnecting over and over again bannable then? If it isn't abuse then everyone should just do it, right? And it's abuse cause it lowers your rank and makes you play with lower ranked people.

What aren't you understanding? I don't like people that DC, I was simply telling someone that if they continue to report someone for DCing they may earn themselves a punishment. I'm not arguing for or against DCing, just informing, get off my ass.