The promised LGBT characters

"I already said this to another but here you go"

no I mean it would be cool to see a new character representing the lgbtq, "but" some people try to force past characters to be gay and etc. and act like its a big deal if they aren't or are, these are character who do not speak or interact in any way other than healing and saving each other so I just don't see it as being neccacery, also I don't want a character where their character "is that they are gay or etc" I would like it to be properly done and done well. Not being shoved in everyone's face is important too. I think the way that its done best instead of just being clearly stated is, telling it subtly through the lore or rifts like "subtle hints" not "HEY I AM GAAAAY AND THATS MY CHARACTER ARC". I am not against diverse characters, in-fact I want more. More races and etc, it just needs to be done right, not force fed diversity.

Heyyyy, I understand your discussion, and I totally get it........ buuuut I´m gonna stand up for the devs, because I think (please tell me if I´m wrong) that they do the chapters like 3 chapters prior ( I mean like when they were already working on The Twins, while releasing The Deathslinger).

So hopefully we will get the characters they promised us a while ago.

as long as they give them actual personality, not just THIS CHARACTER IS GAY, LOOK HOW GAY HE IS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY

Look at the backstories and rift/tome entries. There is much lore there and why should everything LGBT be excluded? It kinda feels forced when you include hetero relationships but exclude everything else.

agree

Ehh, I would argue most people in real life assume others are straight unless specified otherwise. Not everyone does this but I would say a good chunk of the population.

And this is not necessarily a bad thing because most of the population is straight. LGBT people exist in a small number compared to straight people.

Tbh this is mainly because the lore is diffuse and (sorry dbd team) generally not written particularly well (something that has improved a little In character backgrounds, archive is hit and miss). If the lore were like... Good then it would be a more prominent part of the game.

The characters of Dbd are an amazing starting point for storytelling purely based on how well designed they are and how much the community projects personality elements onto them. There's a lot of raw potential which isn't really capitalised upon by the game at all. I'd love to see this change and honestly, giving the characters more of a real life (including their relationships), would help a lot with this.

In a general response to everyone saying that due to this being a horror game all of this is irrelevant :

Most horror films dedicate their first third to character building so that the horror actually takes root- this is to trick the emotional part of your brain into feeling something when the individual in question is in danger.

Character building is an immensely important part of the horror genre--it's rarely good tbf, but it's really disingenuous to claim that including character information in dbd is some great crime against horror at large.

Are you saying it's a slippery slope? If they can stop at any time, it's not a slippery slope. They've made no promise to add disabled characters, and people will ask for whatever they want regardless of any set precedent. Also, keep in mind that this thread in particular isn't necessarily asking for LGBT representation as much as it is calling out BHVR for what seems to be an empty promise.

I don't totally disagree, but there's a larger context in the LGBT+ community where the message for the past century has been, "You will never be explicitly included -- the closest you can come is not being explicitly excluded, so just be happy with that." And there's a really long tradition of reading into popular media and trying to invent your own queer representation in any space that isn't explicitly claimed for heterosexuals. For a lot of people, it feels like the time has come when that shouldn't be necessary and everyone should be explicitly included in the way that straight people always have been.

In the case of DBD specifically, the message from the devs says that they intended not to explicitly identify any of the characters as gay or straight, but then they messed up and explicitly identified some of them as straight without thinking about it, which they recognize as a problem. The question people are asking themselves when they're frustrated by that isn't, "Are gay people explicitly excluded from the DBD universe?" it's "Are they explicitly included in the same way that straight people are?" And right now, they're not.

I wouldn't call people who assume those things arrogant. A majority of the population is straight. Wasn't an estimated number of LGBT people only at 4%? I honestly haven't checked in a while.

Regardless, most people can tell I'm gay right away because I'm feminine. However, my boyfriend is very masculine and people assume he is straight all the time. He doesn't mind correcting them. Nor would I mind if people assumed the same about me.

That's not what a slippery slope is though, you're misusing the term. A slipperly slope would be something like "We're giving full control of our creative department to GLAAD to ensure we have adequate LGBT representation." because at that point, they can't stop. GLAAD has control now and BHVR is sliding down the slipperly slope, with no ability to stop.

Like I said, people will ask for things regardless of whether there's a precedent for it. And I repeat myself, this isn't asking, this is reminding BHVR of a promise, so this matter is besides the point anyway.

Stop trying to force this stuff into the game. Isn’t Yui gay, there you have one.