No Bloodlust = True Skill Balance

the only thing removing bloodlust has exposed is that survivors think they're gods for running unmindgameble loops lol

Not every killer is designed that way..

Sure. Why would you be worried about what happens to "bad killers" in the first place? Maybe because you can't even get away from bad killers? I don't know. I think that is much more telling than people complaining. People will always complain if something affects them, a little or a lot.

I think this will affect very little high skilled killers and hight tier killers and affect more lower skill killers and tiers. They still have the right to oppose a decision, whether or not they are good or bad. Sure, I think they could learn without it, but even the devs recognize some changes to maps were necessary for that to start and there are still plenty of areas that were not changed and good survivors here and there saying their matches became easier because of that. If that is to stay afterwards I will respect it and adapt, but I don't think this attitude is constructive of name calling and shaming when everyone that is in the game has the right to play it and learn.

Maybe this is something that will only truly affect people that should learn otherwise. I don't really know. When it becomes set in stone we will know for sure after more time without it. I think people are too quick to judge with only 1 or 2 days of gameplay and no access to the data.

Maybe in this case you could post your killer matches along with the posting of this thread to make a comparison:

He is posting all his matches and according to his account surviving became much easier. But adding information to the discussion would be constructive to compare.

I'm all for double depips. Still, that won't make much difference if you keep getting matched with much lower ranks than yours.

Lol they do exist. For example haddonfield in a house with a basement if both windows spawn at the back of a house or gas haven once garage gen is done and back wall has a window without a door. Those are infinites vs huntress. Certain long low fences on haddonfield with vaults on each end is an infinite without bloodlust vs most of the killers. Because once 1 vault is blocked you can use the other one until the first one is unblocked

I disagree, if a killer starts having a harder time without bloodlust its because matchmaking and map design; of course there are going to still be really umbalanced matches but lets forget about those. Dont forget that everything is relative, and that same killer might be a god when facing rank 20s so...

I like this experiment as long as the data collected is correctly interpretated: map design and matchmaking needs to keep improving

I mean, I agree that lack of bloodlust can definitely make some previously pseudo-unsafe loops now fairly safe, why didn't they just break the damn pallet? Even if they did though, it's still brutal to watch.

NO EXHAUSTION PERKS=TRUE SKILL BALANCE

Oh I didn't notice.

I've pretty much stopped playing killer during this test... having chases last longer than they should because a survivor is at a safe vaulting spot due to crap RNG... nope.

So, I've been playing survivor a lot more... as it's easier, far more relaxing, and magnitudes less pressure to do well.

I'm not arguing with you about the bloodlust, I could care less if it got removed or stayed. How come Legion would miss bloodlust? Or Pig since she's a stealth killer with a medium distance lunge? Those I'd think would be the last ones to miss BL. I'm also a Legion Main btw but I haven't played pig so much. I just wanna know your reasoning is all :)

With Pig, the issue usually comes when you either get your first hit as the Survivor is vaulting something or when you break a pallet. They gain like 15 meters of distance on you and then now that Bloodlust is gone, the survivors have been milking that for as much hold W distance as they can which... is more now because no bloodlust. Though I will say that as Pig I had some success playing a more hit and run style since the Survivors won't hold W if they don't know you're there.

For Legion, their issue comes at the start of the chase. Today at least, Survivors have been running really early. Like ridiculously early. Legion has a 32m TR and Frenzy can't be used for mobility really, so... if the Survivor books it when Legion is still 20 meters away... there's not really anything they can do about it except hold W after them and hope the Survivor messes up and has to turn.

Infinite and near infinite loops still break the game for killer. red rank survivors running comms can s*** all over killer even more than before. Good survivors counter blood lust easily breaking line of sight for a few seconds. Swf teams without bloodlust just take turns running to the nearest god loop. You then either commit to a chase that is going to cost a gen or 2 at best, or pressure other survivors off gens in which case the survivor you just chased exhaustion perk cools and resets. this formula has been rinse and repeat all weekend. yes bloodlust isn't always necessary and can be a crutch, but so are many other things (DS,DH,EXHAUSTION PERKS,OoO,Comms). i think they have done their experiment, hopefully they can do something useful with the data after making the already jacked matchmaking that much more miserable when you get a higher ranked squad of survivors. Just saying.

"Mr swimming champion, now that you lost your hand in the accident you truely recognize how bad you are compared to your competition. Don't blame the thing that objectively hinders your ability to perform, Just to commit die, noob"

That doesn't make much sense imo. No bloodlust=True skill? If your activating bloodlust even just a few times a match your already wasting too much time chasing one survivor and gens start flying. Against the high end players this means your most likely going to lose. Most "true skill" players already dont use it much anyways. The only place this might help is the median end survivors and that is most certainly not where the true skill players are anyways. As for new players I dont if it helps or not anyways since new survivors shouldn't be to difficult for a new killer to kill either. All that said I still think taking it out is a silly idea. If it's only activated once a match if that. How is it making that much of a difference anyways at the high end of play. It still has it's necessary moments though. Either way it just doesn't seem like it's making that much a difference. Just throwing my 2 cents in here for what its worth from someone who plays both sides at high ranks.