I'm tired of killers who tunnel thinking of themselves as "good players"

If a strategy works for you, use it. If it makes the other person salty, too bad.

What platform for that stat? PC? And with what killers because that's not across the board and account for all ranks levels, which is broken and red ranks is meaningless when you have zero rewards for something that resets monthly. The only people who think this game is not survivor sided are unsurprisingly, survivors themselves.

Red Ranks across platforms. Here's my argument though, how can you so easily just say ahh this killer needs a buff when countless statistics would prove otherwise? Sure I understand some killers need buffs, but where do you draw the line in which statistics tell you "kill rates are getting abnormally high now something needs to be done", because I don't see how one side having a 65% win rate could be passed as balanced, and I doubt it would be in any other game.

Except, blanket defining something this specific BASED on LARGE DATA collecting has way too many flaws to be taken seriously.

Tunneling dosent win you games not unless the surviors gives you the free win. Slugging is way better method of victory. Baseline kindred would do a lot to help this imo.

Pushing out one survivor involves likely eating ds and giving free reign on gens which can be hammered out very fast. If someone thinks there good for tunneling gg em and move on no point getting fussed about how they play. Eventually they will get punished for this playstyle. I did and learned much more effective ways to win games.

You never should let the opponent define the reasons why you lost. You should use introspection and examine your play patterns looking for ways to improve sometimes you can't do mucj but likely there always decision points you cpuld have made that would have yielded more time for your team.

I could pick apart so many things from that video but here's what i will say.

Yes statistics shouldn't be what balance descisions are based around HOWEVER at some point you do need to look at them as they do mean something and refelct alot more about the game than people realise. Although nurse has the lowest kill rate, it's still over 50% so technically if good and bad nurses combined can get a kill rate of that, then i don't see how anyone could every think she needs a buff regardless of how strong we all know good nurses can be, so that's not a valid argument.

When is the cut off point, where do you draw the line? If 75% killrate is fine, then what about 80, what about 90, what happens when you approach 100. Is that balanced?

What happens if a killer has a 25% kill rate. Are you sayign that that would be completely ignored and shrugged off as skewed data?

Also just because Scott Jund said somethign doesn't mean I'm automatically wrong and that my point doesn't matter.

Tunnel? A Killer needs to tunnel these days just to slow games down. Mori's would slow games down but are now completely useless and a pointless offering in the Bloodweb.

i just want to understand why survivors "tunnelling" their objective is considered as totally fine by most players. But killer "tunneling" is not acceptable...

Honestly a large part of WHY DS and BT are so popular is because of the amount of tunneling. They wouldn't be a problem (or on the devs radar right now) if there wasn't so much tunneling. I only tunnel if survivors get unlucky or I know that the others are better at looping (although it's very rare among the times I tunnel that all 3 are better at looping). I'll also tunnel if I recognize a survivor, can beat them easily in a chase, and know they have DS while I have Dying Light so thing are easier later on. Then I just leave them alone after they hit ds.

One's an emotionless inanimate object who didn't pay to play the game nor care about what happens to it, the other is a human.

Surprising a killer with 4300 hours can play in any way they want. I am a player with 230 ish hours, I don't have the luxury of out classing nearly 95% of the player base and yet I have learned a couple of things.

1. Tunneling can simply be your best move to do.

2. End game camping can be the best thing you can do.

3. Slugging when other people are around is a good move.

4. Staying near your gens and defending them is a good thing to do.

No matter how you play survivors will find something to complain about while reality is that a killer is far more reliant upon them making mistakes than your own actions as a killer. I have learned that blindly going for tunnels, slugs, camps as your main and only strategy is going to lose you more games and yet people that claim it isn't needed are just as wrong. Killers shouldn't simply play worse and make bad choices, why should they?

People here are enjoying pointing at killrates to determine balance, while kills are not showing the whole picture. Stats and data are great, but what are the stats on gen completions, game speeds, chase times, hook numbers, etc? Kill rates state very little about balance, as it is just one small aspect of the game. A 4 hook to 4 kills, one hook suicides causing teams to be killed... even the developers stated not to conclude things from this one data point.

The matchmaking is totally wack and this skewers the numbers, it skewers the perception that people have. I meet survivors with 5x, 10x and more hours than I have, which if I would let them can run me around the map forever. Chases are the main determining factor in the game balance and the choices of survivors. Killers have some elements that they can influence, but the true determining factor of a match is the response and efficiency of the survivors.

And I'm tired of SWFs who use DS and DH thinking they're good players for using second chance perks. (Regardless of the circumstances.)

Another problem in this game is mindset vs mindset. Casual like you and me as a killer vs casual = good times. But there is a really not insignificant amount of players on both sides with a "must win" or tryhard mindset and now casual vs tryhard is annoying for everyone involved. And tryhard vs tryhard becomes more and more the norm, especially once a casual mindset gets turned into a tryhard one by toxicity from the opposition.

This game does not separate or match even mindsets or skill since they dont have normal/ranked queue separation and by now any helpful form of matchmaking when the duration of the queue widens the filter even more.

And when casual friendly player get set against also casual player but with a sever experience/skill gap it can also drive the lower side into a tryhard mindset.

Edit: I hate autocorrect.

OBVIOUSLY thigns were busted in 2016 dbd and you need to take into account game expereiences BUT stats aren't useless. You still have to take them into account regardless of whether you like them or not. 5 or 10% kill rate leeway is fine but when ur getting killers who are 25% OVER the balanced killrate, it's more than past time to ask questions.

Well it still has exactly the same concept. If i remember correctly less than 1% of the players have ever reached rank 1 survivor or killer, so majority of the players are inexperienced. Survivors have much harder skill-cap than killers, noob killer will always dominate noob survivors, so it's major reason why kill rates will stay high. If you push kill rates back down to 50% ish it will mean game will be heavily unbalanced for killers, just like in 2016. I waited 45 mins-1 hour with my friends for a game and we didn't find any, because nobody wanted to play killer how unbalanced it was.

If less than 1% of players have made it to rank 1, shouldnt the red rank stats be more accurate? If killer gets harder as you get up ranks then why does the kill rate increase the higher the rank you go?