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Should map offerings be removed?

AggressiveFTW
AggressiveFTW Member Posts: 1,081
edited December 2020 in General Discussions

Here is my personal opinion: I do not think they should remove map offerings for the sake of balance only. I do not think players should be allowed to decide which map to play on. It should be 100% random IMO. It would also make the game more fun considering that you do not know which map you end up on. SWF can also be a lot more frustrating because of the map that you will end up on.



What do you think? Should map offerings be removed?

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  • MasonOliver123
    MasonOliver123 Member Posts: 255

    Yes. I think so.

  • OniWantsYourMacaroni
    OniWantsYourMacaroni Member Posts: 5,944

    No,i don't think so.

    Map reworks made almost all maps much more balanced.There are a few exceptions here and there but once they are done with all of them then map offerings won't matter that much anymore.

  • AggressiveFTW
    AggressiveFTW Member Posts: 1,081

    I do not think they should remove map offerings for the sake of balance only. I do not think players should be allowed to decide which map to play on. It should be 100% random IMO. It would also make the game more fun considering that you do not know which map you end up on.

  • QwQw
    QwQw Member Posts: 4,694

    Yes they should, I can't write in words how much I despise these things. I'll be going about my day, playing some killer, then out of nowhere a sweaty looking teams send me to Haddonfield, or Mothers Dwelling, or many of the other broken maps. If a sweaty team doesn't send you a broken map, a immersed survivor will send me to The Saloon, or The Game, or any of the annoying maps this game has to offer. As both sides they're a complete waste of my BP because I will never use them.

  • OniWantsYourMacaroni
    OniWantsYourMacaroni Member Posts: 5,944

    But you wouldn't be able to do fun builds like Spooky Myers anymore :(

    And sometimes you want to see other maps if the RNG decides to give you the same maps over and over again

  • AggressiveFTW
    AggressiveFTW Member Posts: 1,081

    I 100% agree with both of your points. Since BHVR do not really make "drastic" changes, for example, say remove map offerings. Reducing the BP cost could be a nice change.

  • RamblinRango
    RamblinRango Member Posts: 389

    It's not like people can farm map offerings, the bloodweb is a long process and even if you get the one you want there's a chance it gets canceled out by a different offering or just doesn't work at all

    Personally I like being able to pick maps but I do wish they would make them less common in the bloodweb

  • AggressiveFTW
    AggressiveFTW Member Posts: 1,081

    Your argument seems pretty weak to me. You're just saying arguments to why it's nice to have and not its bad effects. SWF can really take advantage if they get to pick the map. You have to take balance into account in the question because that is what maps are, balance. Looks are also important, but to make a map good, balance is the most important part of them.

  • GodDamn_Angela
    GodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213

    If they stay at Green rarity forever? Yes. This oversaturates this rarity tier and makes any single offering/add-on/tool in this tier rarer than any other rarity. It makes no sense and is overly confusing and frustrating.

  • Freddy96
    Freddy96 Member Posts: 767

    What's the point of multiple map offerings? Survivors will always bring haddonfield and coldwind. Killers will bring lery's or hawkins.

    Yes they should remove map offerings or making the work differently

  • RamblinRango
    RamblinRango Member Posts: 389

    That's because it's not an argument it's my thoughts on map offerings but if it was an argument your rebuttal is worse lol

    If we're taking balance into account, balancing things based around SWF seems pretty stupid to me

  • dezzmont
    dezzmont Member Posts: 481

    No. I think the killer should just be given extra offering slots.

    The problem with map offerings isn't that being able to choose a map is OP. Its the asymmetry between the two sides in how much control offerings grant them over a match. Killers have to choose between map offerings, BP boosters, Moris, hook distance decreasers, a white ward to keep important addons when they are low, or blocking a map offering.

    Survivors can force in a map offering, then run survivor team wide BP boosters, maybe a hook separator or fog, and have their key holder pack a white ward because why not?

    It isn't that map offerings are too good, but that survivors basically always 'pick the map' which is unintentional. If the killer could run a map offering every game alongside wreaths or their hook spacers, it would be way more fair, especially if killer's had their individual map offering weighed double in map offering RNG, so to get a 50/50 on the offering survivors need to burn two offerings collectively.

  • whammigobambam
    whammigobambam Member Posts: 1,201

    Yes because you only ever run a map to further enhance your build which is stupid strong when you consider no power oni and vigil balanced landing swf teams.

    Furthermore, there should be a cheaper new offering where you choose what map you don't want to play on.

  • RamblinRango
    RamblinRango Member Posts: 389

    Maybe map offerings could be reworked to favor the killer? The survivor variation could moderately increase the chance to be sent somewhere and the killers could stay the same

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,242

    The only problem I see with map offerings:

    • Survivor Map Offering = Killer Map Offering

    As you can see, survivors can stack map offerings and render the killer's map offering almost obsolete.


    Therefore, I prefer that survivors can only obtain the old common map offerings (yes, the ones from the beta days) and the killer can obtain the rare ones! This would make survivors have to stack common map offerings to have the same effect as a killer's map offering! πŸ˜…

    OR

    We instead make the rare map offerings remove a map from rotation (I like this idea more). If you're not in the mood to play Ormond's Realm, just slap an Ormond Map Offering on and you won't have to worry about getting one! πŸ˜…

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,885

    I'd prefer for the map offerings to be useless, especially on killers so I don't get sent to lery's by scratched mirror myers or the game by a doc or legion.

    That's a great trade off for not using my haddonfield or ormond map offerings. :)

  • Brhoom
    Brhoom Member Posts: 241

    Whenever I see an indoor map offering my game crashes.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 7,140

    There are certain killer builds absolutely dependant on getting a map on purpose. Removing map offerings would crush those builds completely.

    Also I think wanting to alter map offerings is just a sign of imbalance on several of them, perceived or real.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,242

    Quote Highlight:

    "There are certain killer builds absolutely dependant on getting a map on purpose."

    I would prefer they changed the build to be more powerful overall than to have it dependant on a specific map being played. πŸ˜…

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,885

    Good that's the goal of removing map offerings no haddonfield swat teams the forums magically goes against every game and no Doc's abusing the Game's layout or Scratched mirror myers Lery's rounds. Good

  • starkiller1286
    starkiller1286 Member Posts: 895

    I say no just because sometimes the games decides to trap you in corn purgatory or only uses 2 maps out of the 20 which is really weird.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,242

    Imagine being Spooky Myers on all maps instead of a few because they buffed the perks and add-ons to not be map dependent! 😁

    Then, we can change how map offerings function, so that it's more interactive and fair for both sides! More on that below:

  • Slashstreetboy
    Slashstreetboy Member Posts: 1,811

    I think they should stay, with a little tweak:

    Since survivors are 4, the Killers offering should have a bigger impact. The formula should look like this:

    4 Survivor offerings> Killer Offering

    Killer offering = 3 Survivor offerings (50/50)

    Killer offering> 1/2 Survivor offerings

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,242

    I agree with this since killers can't stack offerings like survivors can! πŸ˜…

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 15,125

    I think at this point they need their own rarity class so other green rarity offerings are not becoming more and more uncommon to see..

    also we need a trade in for offerings we would never use. There are just map offerings (and others) that I would never use on certain killers..

  • TheButcher6641
    TheButcher6641 Member Posts: 252

    Definitely not. What if you just want to go to a particular map for fun. People don't just go to map for an advantage in game. For example I really like the silent hill map so I sometimes bring Mary's letter if I feel like going there. Or if I just don't want to go to coldwind farm for the hundredth time in a day I sent myself to dead dawg saloon. It would be so boring to never be able to know for certain whether or not you're going to a map you like. I don't often use map offerings but it's nice to be able to go to a nice map once in a while.

  • Pepsidot
    Pepsidot Member Posts: 1,663
    edited December 2020

    No. Besides BP offerings, map offerings are the only other ones I use. Sometimes it's nice to choose a realm/map to play on.

    Also map offerings are useful for certain unique playstyles, e.g. spooky Myers on Lery's, Prayer Beads Spirit on The Game etc

  • Xyvielia
    Xyvielia Member Posts: 2,418

    No... and they probably won’t ever be

  • OniWantsYourMacaroni
    OniWantsYourMacaroni Member Posts: 5,944

    Giving map offerings their own category would actually be a great idea imo.

  • derppug
    derppug Member Posts: 239

    I'm okay with map offerings.


    I'm not okay with seeing that someone played Haddon field offering, so I crash my game. And that sets off d/c timer....

    It's such bullshit when survivors want to send you to an extremely 1 sided map.

  • Cutiaddu
    Cutiaddu Member Posts: 405

    Yes. The amount of times I do ctrl alt canc for dodging Haddonfield is ridicoulos.

  • skylerbound
    skylerbound Member Posts: 754

    I prefer they be changed to anti-map offerings instead, that way it doesn’t necessarily give any one person an advantage and it’s still up to rng.