im just gonna come out and say it

P.S. not trying to be argumentative, just curious what your thoughts would be on that @friendlykillermain

@friendlykillermain said:

@Weederick said:

@friendlykillermain said:

@Wolf74 said:

@friendlykillermain said:

@Wolf74 said:

@friendlykillermain said:

@Wolf74 said:
Grab some popcorn and wait for the next "so many nurses at rank 1" complain thread. XD

yeah at least on ps4 nurse games are fun if rare

Ask PC player how "fun" it is to play against a decent Nurse.

thats a whole nother topic i want no part in partly because nurse is hard to play and billy isnt he just isnt

Really? Isn't he? I have trouble controlling the jerk of the saw. I know it is a me problem, because other people seem to not even feel it, but I find it hard to play him properly and I am always frustrated to be unable to play him to his full potential, because I miss to many saw hits.

your not not supposed to kill wityh your chainsaw only run your cattle hammers lunge is more than enough to take out everyone ignore the saw as a weapon and only as a sprint an billy becomes too EZ PZ GG

You're losing to M1llys, just saying. They beat you with billys skillfloor, which is quite low granted (Brief mobility). You REALLY shouldnt lose to M1llys, on pc we beat those guys easily.
His skill comes from downing survivors and if you cant do that reliably, you're not a good billy. I try to master every killer and billys flick is imo the hardest mechanical aspect in this game. You can train aim for huntress, throw andes for clown, get the timing for blinks. But that crazy sensitivity curve is unique to billy, you have to get a feel for it and if you dont play him for a few days, you'll get rusty and need to relearn it.

Calling him easy is admitting you never play him.

i play ps4 and he si a bit easy to play high mobility and for attacking a long lunge with a dull

A M1lly is just an A-B tier killer. He's not S-tier unless you chop down survivors consistently.

Could be the lack of viable killers on console, but take it as an appetizer if you decide to switch to pc against real, viable killers.

But, tbh, i do think he is a little overtuned in general. Just a little bit, he comes from another time.

@friendlykillermain said:
i thinking along the lines of shorter lunge and maybe reduced movement sped but definently higher time penalty when crashing into objects because that is not enough

I think the only thing I maybe agree with is the reduced movement speed. That would make sense considering his chainsaw is so fast. slightly slower movement speed would balance that out. but I see what you're saying.

Weederick said:

Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.
If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.

The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.
Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.
On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.

Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).

@ScottJund said:
Weederick said:

Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.

If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.

The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.

Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.

On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.

Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).

Bro you should not be getting looped 6 times around anything with a 110% killer

Depends on the size of the loop. A really short loop can be looped a lot. I dont count the amount of loops, but its a lot more than a normal killer for small loops.

Good for you to have an opinion!

AChaoticKiller said:

You know when I first saw this post I thought he was going to come out and say he's gay. I'm not the only one right?

LEAVE BILLY ALONE

@ScottJund said:

@amneoss said:
ScottJund said:

Weederick said:

Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.

If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.

The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.

Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.

On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.

Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).

Bro you should not be getting looped 6 times around anything with a 110% killer

Bro not everyone is as good as you bro.

Look Scott I love your streams. Best Huntress by miles. And it's cool to see you getting Spirit up to your Huntress skill.

But you have to realize that most of us aren't you, Marth, Tru3, or Monto.
You are far better than 99% of the killer player base. Judging everyone by your skill isn't fair. I know you'll try to be modest about your skill but inside you know how good you are.

Dude I'm not even remotely humblebragging. You just go around corners tightly. That's it. You can't be looped 6 times around anything. It doesn't take skill at all.

Scott. If i say 5-6 in that context, it could also be 4-5. I dont think that matters, we know how badly you can loop slow killers. And a billy cant break loops, so he gets looped for twice as long, which would be game losing, as billy is just efficient enough against good survivors, but he wouldnt be if he gets looped even harder. Thats my point about billy and 110%, not wether its 4-6 exact loops. Its a lot of loops, aight? Not very fitting for billy. Alright, gn8

TigerKirby215 said:

@F5arTheB5ard said:
So all killers should suck besides the nurse?

Nurse also needs a heavy rework tbh don't @ me. She completely ignores the core concepts of this game. In a game based entirely around running around map props her power is to ignore map props: what?

On topic: Hillbilly could honestly be 110% MS and no one would bat an eye (except for the salty killer mains.) He has the best mobility ability in the game and an instadown; moving slightly slower when not using the Chainsaw wouldn't be that bad.
When you compare it to Spirit (she can move slightly faster after standing still for 3 seconds! Oooooh!) Billy is way more powerful. Yet Spirit is 110% and Billy is 115%.

Weederick said:

Billy doesnt work with 110% movespeed, since he cant deal with loops. If you ever got looped as hag or huntress, you know what i mean (5-6 loops thanks to hitboxes), but billy has no means of countering it.
If that went live, he would drop down to mid-low tier to be THE MOST loopable killer in the game by far. That wouldnt be fun, since he would just be deleted from the viable killers.

The devs could rather focus on making him even more unique. Keep the strong chainsaw, but give him appropriate drawbacks. I always thought about him beeing the loudest and most aggressive of the killers. A savage.
Give him global, directional sounds. Everyone should hear exactly where billy is, when he is using his chainsaw. That would balance his map control (mobility) with survivors map control (knowing where he is) and also close the gap between swf and solo survivor. As SWF can communicate where killer are, which makes them op, but against bily, you know it anyways.
On top of that, double his cooldown and nerf his addons.

Just my 2c, i hope they wont just nerfhammer him mindlessly (like flickremoval).

My only real issues with Billy are that unlike Bubba his collision penalty is really low even without using addons for that. He also can charge his chainsaw up and have normal movement speed which given it's super low cd is nuts. He can simpyl charge at you, stop the charge and be on your tail holding charge and you're pretty much toast at that point.

He really needs to be some slower base movement speed 110 instead of 115 and also be penalized for simply holding his chainsaw in the air charged endlessly.

Dunno.

Not like he is super hard to face or learn.