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Why BM killers who were OBVIOUSLY victims of poor matchmaking?
I’m not saying to not have fun with some jeers against toxic killers, I’m saying there’s no need to BM killers who are CLEARLY less skilled than you. You know, the ones where you can guess their rank pretty accurately long before you see the match results. The ones who could have easily dodged and extended your 20-minute wait, but decided to play against you anyway despite the obvious warning signs.
I’m a 13, you’re a team of 1’s and 2’s. You stomped me. Good for you.
So why the circles and taunts and pointing and t-bagging and exit-gate-butt-scrape and clicky-clicky and constant vaulting....
There should be no doubt in your mind that my skill does not match yours. Please just open the gates, leave the match, and gg.
I think the killer role is fun, but I’m not skilled. I play it much less now because I only have a good time in maybe 1 of every 5 matches. For this reason I don’t really have the desire to BECOME skilled, because it’s not enjoyable anymore.
I play mostly survivor now, and I do so respectfully, but queue times are getting to be overbearing. Still, when I see a killer below my skill, I know it’s not their fault. Just bad matchmaking. So I play, throw them a couple easy hits, leave, and gg. Why can’t this be the way?
I know, I’m ranting. I’m just unhappy with people’s behavior in general I guess. The game just really isn’t so fun for me anymore.
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That is an excellent question
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- You don't see rank until the end.
- You can't bully someone stronger than you.
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Yeah I don't know why some people have to be asses, if I see someone do it I will message them that they're turds, unless the killer was a douche. But always try to remember people that are happy and well adjusted in real life don't need to abuse people and be poor sports in a video game to feel better about themselves.
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Some people are #########.
Don't know what else to tell you, man.
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If they camp/tunnel I don't care what rank they are. They are getting the bags
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I only BM killers who BM's a survivor (like face camping, being toxic after downing/hooking). Many other survivors BM bad killers since a good killer has BM them and they want to return the favour. Sadly this is how toxism works, when someone makes you frusturated by being toxic you want to take it out on other people and the cycle continues. Only way to stop or reduce this is by being nice and/or direct.
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To be fair I’ve had many instances where I’ve said to myself, “this is definitely a rank 13 killer” and then at the end game screen they’re a rank 2 or whatever. You can’t always tell.
But honestly the people who will taunt a killer player for not doing well are not going to care what rank they are. They’ll say “ggez git gud baby killer” whoever you are.
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When I've been in that situation, up against a Killer who's getting stomped because they just can't get a hook or what have you, I've started to just let them have me at the endgame. Give them a kill so they don't come out empty handed. Exceptions are when I have a daily or challenge or the killer is a tunneler, which I have no inclination to reward.
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PvPs number one rule.
Your fun is at someone else's expense
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Sorry that happened ,it can be actually disgusting if their going out there way to show you,You really can't do much.
But don't let them ruin your fun .
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I never teabag or anything of the kind for a killed who's clearly less experienced than me, unless they try to tunnel or facecamp, because then I always taunt back.
Actually, if I don't really have a mission or am farming for points with cake + WGLF, I usually let them hook me and give them a kill, so that they get some points too. I did it like 3 times last month and I was really impressed one of them (a Pig player) started to hit me until I died and I was like "ok... then." hahahahahahaha
When I play as killer I also have to face red ranks now and then, and there's no much to do. I know it turns into a practice match for using your powers, learning the map and maybe even learning new jukes for playing as survivor, but it isn't how it shoud be.
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Don’t worry, comrade. I will avenge your losses.
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I agree.
However, if you are a straight tunneler. You get the bags!
Idc about camping, I got that BT and ill take a hit.
But like it says in Matthew 4:16.
Tunnelers, get the bags!!
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Yeah, this kind of behaviour (pun not intended) is what make strong killers. You get used to it and stop caring about survivors' fun, so you start slugging and tunneling (when it's optimal is a strategy) and then you start winning and suddenly survivors just don't feel like t-baging and clicking anymore.
This is the way.
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You can tell when someone is way worse at the game. For killer it's seeing a survivor that dead hards into objects, runs into walls, and just can't play loops. For survivors it's a killer that misses hits constantly and can't get good value out of their power.
When I play vs. purple/yellow rank survivors I can tell and just soft throw so they can get bp and have fun. It's not enjoyable for either side to just have an uncontested win.
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I've seen reds play like browns. Its not a perfect system.
I've seen a video the other day where the killer tried a BW play by acting bad at Nurse until gates were opened. Ofc, the survivors tried messing with him after all the gens were powered. Ended in a slug fest, no BW.
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Cause Toxic behavior is encouraged by survivor mains on twitch. So ppl just starting the game will already have the habit of tbagging and bming and it will stay with them.
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Force them to want to improve so they can kill me :)
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Yeah but you can usually guess
And yes you can, funnily enough
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I've been very heavily affected by this recently
I play about 4-6 hours a day to practice and hone my skills, as DBD is something I'm incredibly passionate about. Now I'm a moderately skilled survivor, and when I get less skilled killers I give them some hits, escape, gg (unless they are being bullied then I'll purposely wait for them to finish bullying the killer and give them a free sacrifice)
But I'm not an amazing killer, about top of green ranks a few days ago, but since then I've been consistently matched with rank 1s to rank 6s with exactly two green ranks and a yellow rank, for three days, about 13 hours of consistent bullying, and tea bagging and flashlight clicking and notification spam, just to grab my attention so they can be ######### some more.
I just want to improve but I cant when this is all that happens all match, every match. On average I've been getting consistent 0ks since this started, and exactly 5 sacrifices, none of which happened in the same matches!
I absolutely love this game but I'm getting sick and tired, I hope turning on MMR fixes this, because idk what I'll do otherwise
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BMing and humiliating lesser skilled Killers is the sole reason for a significant portion of the playerbase to qeue up with their friends. They thrive on it because they propably haven´t much going on in their lives and don´t have anyone weaker than them to pick on irl.
If you want to play Killer, you have to shift your mindset a bit and just expect games to be like this until you get good enough to threaten them.
It´s an integral part of the game and Survivor toxicity is going nowhere, it´s entirely up to you whether you decide to push through it or avoid it, no shame in either, it´s your free time after all and you should be able to make it as joyful as possible for you.
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Two words: Power Trip. People who taunt and basically rub in a win to a killer who lost are usually the same ones to ######### and cry about losing to someone stronger than them. When they sit there rubbing in their precious win at the exit, they should really be thinking about how they would feel in that position. I've been there many times, and it's not a nice feeling at all. Anytime I get teammates who do this, I let the killer kill me because they don't deserve to be treat like dirt for trying to play
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Only bully low ranks when they try to tunnel or camp me. I don't play nice until I can see they aren't going to play like a #########. After that then sure i'll give em the easy hit or the hook whatever. But none of that taunting and such long as they played nice/respectfully
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I will say though. You should try to get better, because nothing feels better as a killer than killing most if not all of the ######### that tried to bully you.
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The problem with that is you could be facing a total noobie that doesn't know any better strategies, or rather, what the best strategies are, depending on the situation. So you're bullying a low rank noobie into, potentially, being discouraged from touching Killer or the game ever again. In my first few games as Killer, I'm sure I pissed some people off camping and slashing them on the hook because I legitimately thought slashing them made the hook progress go down a bit more with each hit lol. I quickly learned it doesn't work that way but still, I didn't know any better at the time.
Even for experienced players, there are plenty of situations where tunneling or camping are simply the most viable choices, and sometimes the only choices. In addition to this, as a Survivor, it's not always easy to determine if someone is purposely tunneling or camping.
In my very first month playing this game I got all sorts of hate mail (been gaming a long time btw and I've never before received as much hate mail in any other game as I have in DbD...in just 1 month lol). It consisted of all the typical stuff like "wow can't get a kill without tunneling/camping, real pro" and other similar messages, all because I faked leaving a hook while knowing someone was nearby and turned right around when they went for the save, lol. What am I supposed to do? Let everyone get free saves and free heals before I'm allowed to attack again? C'mon...you weren't stealthy enough, so, sorry, you may be punished for it from time to time. Why go running off in search of survivors I don't know the location of when there are some I DO know the location of close by? Yeah, depending on the situation, I'm turning around, sorry!
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Last time MMR was on, it was a lot worse.
I've been at Rank 1 on both sides since about June of 2019 and I'd been a Rank 1 Killer for a while before that. I was being matched with Rank 16-20's almost every game with MMR.
I sincerely hope that they have fixed it this time.
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God, I really hope so.
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I don't understand it either. It's usually extremely easy to tell a good from a bad killer.
Though regardless of rank if they tunnel and camp me or nod at me or hit me on the hook then it's their fault if I t-bag.
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Well i generally try to be nice, but getting camped brings out the worst in me with this game so i turn into an ######### in game. Its rare im toxic in the chat and if they're on PC and i see they're likely new I'll apologize and tell them gg or say nothing if im too mad to say anything good. Though when i started I proxi camped so i get it a lot of us typically start out that way. They sent me messages I got a lot of them because after i stopped camping i started tunneling instead. Though I really only tunneled obsession since i was using Freddy with dying light (2016-2017 btw) But I'm not often bullying low rank players below green. Its super rare. Anyone above yellow ranks I'll be honest and tell you they def get teabagged at gate a lot when they camp me.
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Also viable strat though i assume you didnt have many options there anyway In the perk department. Nowadays playing killer i tty to get them to that point of no return though nowadays i only play killer when i need challenges done or when im grinding to p3 a new survivor. Killer is fun, but its frustrating at times and i understand why people usually don't play it.
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Why is nodding negative? If someone is just tryna meme and you start being toxic that just makes everyone's experience worse!
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I don't think you understand what I meant by nodding. It's quite obvious that after a killer downs you and starts nodding repeatedly it's because they're being toxic. This is the same when they're camping you.
It's the same as t-bagging. Not every t-bag is toxic but people understand when a t-bag is meant to be toxic.
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That is literally why people BM. The term "Ha Ha GG ez noob" doesn't come form DbD.
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Why not? I only play Survivor to bully and make fun of my opponents, that's literally the only reason I play Survivor.
Playing the basic Survivor as it's meant to be is boring as hell, EVERYTHING you do requires nothing but M1 and the space bar. You sit on gens for MINUTES doing nothing but holding M1 and hitting space from time to time.
Chests, Totems, Healing, Gates,... They're all the same braindead activities with zero skill requirements.
Outplaying the other side is what makes the game fun. As Killer you get that opportunity all the time but as Survivor, you actively have to ask for it. That's why I normally play Killer, it's always exciting and full of action (compared to general Survivor gameplay).
So my apology but when I play Survivor, I want action and I get that action by toying and outplaying the Killer. I don't want the chase to end in 10 seconds so I teabag and taunt to get the Killer to the point where they throw the game and their only goal is to get my dirty arse.
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My first time playing nurse I was getting run around the map pretty hard. I had a survivor who beat me 3 or 4 times, and then they got cocky and constantly tea bagged every time they saw me.
It didn’t really annoy me, because I was expecting to lose, but towards the end of the match I did figure out how to blink and the tea bagger ended up being my only kill.
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Don’t feel bad about ranting OP. I’m sure many killer players here (mains or not) feel the same way. My first experience playing killer was like that too. I was rank 20, it was my third match as killer. One guy decides to loop me, flashlight me at every pallet, vault into me while I’m blinded etc. Obviously toying with me. End of the game I find he is a rank 2 matched against me a rank 20 (And it was on Haddonfield).
Maybe he didn’t know (though I doubt it), maybe he didn’t think it was obnoxious. But I can understand where you and many killer mains are coming from.
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I guarantee you that 99,99% of the Survivors that BM Killers do it while being fully aware of the effect is causes on the person controlling the Killer. That's one, perhaps even the biggest motivation to do it, it's a sadistic bullying mentality but it also gives you that feeling of having power and control over someone else.
An egoistic, antisocial and surely unhealthy psychological mindset but that's how our brain works. I'm guilty of it aswell, I enjoy making fun of Killers from time to time but I also apologize for my behaviour when I went too far and my opponent took it more personal than intended.
Point is, the players are fully aware of their inappropriate behaviour, they enjoy being an #########. That's the reason why they do it.
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Mm I see. Thank you for the insight.
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That's honestly the best way to put it. If you were better than the survivors than they'd be to busy hiding to try and bm. It's literally just bullying.
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People like you shouldn't play online games.
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I hope you're not the sort that then turns around and complains about how tons of killers camp you on the hook or tunnel the hell out of you after enticing them to do so.
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I'm pretty sure most Survivors have felt the same way then dealing with an inexperienced Killer. It doesn't even have to be meant in an offensive way from your perspective but from the Killers point of view, it can very quickly look like you're purposely making fun of them.
For example when I loop a Pig and when it goes prone I simply leave the loop and watch it charge around the loop, confused as I'm not there anymore. In that moment I have a big smirk on my face as I realize that I can pull such simple mindgames on that player, which gives me opportunities to "let them look bad" for my amusement.
If you haven't experienced such situations, you either haven't played that much DbD or you're lying.
Nope, the only thing I complain about when I get camped or tunneled is the other Survivors that usually do nothing but lurk around the hook in a desperate attempt to unhook me instead of finishing the gens. I never blame Killers when they react in such a manner, I expect it and deserve it. When they camp for no apparent reason, it can happen that I get frustrated but then I simply remind myself that they probably just had a really rough match earlier on and need to release some pressure.
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Roobnus sounds like a very unpleasant person. Why not bully other people, really? Amazing. You can have long chases and outplay the killer without being a total jerk about it.
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I think we can all agree that the only appropriate way to deal with a pig who is prone is to boop the snoot.
#boopthatsnoot
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lol yeah, especially without the mori to blow off steam any more I can imagine there's alot more of the more annoying killers to go against being seen and sold. And now i don't need to ask myself why the devs would do that to killers any more. I just answered my own question, they sold more spirits or freddys and blights and after making undying not worth the two perk slots in a coming patch they're gonna sell even more killer packs to people too addicted to quit or switcht o survivor lmao. Brilliant. But dangerously as close to racketeering as most mobile stuff gets, in the sense of deliberately creating problems and harming the experiences in order to sell solutions that otherwise would not have been justified. I am quick to look at things in video games as close to racketeering these days after being burned out by them over the past 4 or 5 years.
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I'm just giving you an honest opinion / reasoning from the perspective of an experienced Survivor. I am a friendly and respectful person but yes, when I play PvP video games, I am probably not the nicest player to face. If you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't play online games. I don't flame people or insult them but when I notice I am more skilled than my opponent, I don't refrain from using that to my advantage / entertainment.
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It is fine to feel pleasure when you are outplaying your opponent, but BM'ing? Taunting? Nah. You are not allowed to spit in the face of goalkeeper to taunt him when you are playing football, and similar things are still a very dirty trick when you are playing online games. Sadly, most videogame players don't understand what sportsmanship is and think that it is fine to be a dickhead because their opponent can't kick their ass for what they are saying and doing. But it is a zero sum game - today you are being a dick to your opponent and have fun on him, tomorrow he will be a dick to you and have fun on you, so in the end you'll both eat #########. Each teabagging survivor creates facecamping Bubbas, and each facecamping Bubba breeds teabagging survivors.
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I wish more people understood this!! It's not real life and there's nothing wrong with having fun in a game because they absolutely hold the power to reverse the situation on you and you end up in that same boat, but instead of improving they come to this site and cry about how unfair it is that the other side can spam ctrl in their face when they lose.
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On point - they're doing that since years already.
Notice all the Killers and perks that were released in a certain state and shortly after, they got nerfed into the ground (perhaps when they hit the expected sales numbers). Or they advertize with a "Skillbased Matchmaking System" - which turns out to be a complete disaster and get's reverted, never to be heard of again. The one thing that remains consistent, however; the implementation of new DLC content (preverably released with broken stuff to motivate people into buying, only to nerf them later on) to keep the players interested.
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yeah unfortunately all competitive (and pvp is by it's nature competitive, even when games are considered 'casul') video games have been doing this for years now. But when I first saw it happening, it used to only be in those shiffy free to play shooters around 10-12 years ago and some of the other sort of ftp games though that many years ago it was the shooters that revolved their entire game around that and 'rented' content mostly guns. Now days even mainstream games from 'AAA' have done it like some ghost recon ftp game doing the same nerf/new release/nerf cycle on paid weapons where they'd release something broke af p2w, nerf it, release a new skin witht he exact same functionality and call it another gun and expect you tot hen buy that one. I haven't played many multiplayer games for too long over the past decade since I hate that they're not the fun they used to be in the early and mid 2000s where you just pop the shiff on and play it and have fun without worrying about grinding prestige, power, or paying for all sort of stupid crap even if not for power.
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