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Am I the only one who has a "normal" killer experience?
I'm asking this because from what I've on this forumn is that most killers will talk about how all they get are toxic 4 man SWF every game or how every single round they play they encounter toxic survivors who tell them to off themselves.
I usually always sit around rank 1 or 2 as killer and mostly play Oni, Blight, Nurse, and Huntress. In 98 percent of my matches usually I'll have a easy time beating the survivors, unless they're more coordinated or smarter but even in those situations i still usually end up winning with a 3 or 4k. I cant remember the last time I've ever encountered a 4 man SWF that was toxic nor a 4 man SWF that had OoO and 3 brand new parts with a key.
I have had extremely stressful games as killer, but usually those are pretty rare...does anyone else have the same experience as me?
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Where are you located and what time of the day do you play? Because that seems to be indicative of the types of survivors you get. I'm west coast US and personally when I find the chance to play during daytime it seems to be fewer sweaty SWF than late evening.
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As the guy above said, it depends on a few things - also depends on your rank. SWFs are more likely to be higher rank, so if you're a Red 1 killer, you'll see them a lot more often than you would as a lower rank.
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Rank 16 playing nurse on console and went against 3 purple ranks. I have maybe 10 games as nurse.
No games are normal when matchmaking sucks.
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No, most people have a normal killer experience, it's just that some people like to come over, overreact about stuff that happens to them once in a while and blame the game's "poor" balance instead of themselves for losing a match.
It's just the way it is :)
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Florida, I play at different times during the day and yeah I have noticed that during the night I will get much better survivors, but I'll still end up winning 95% of my matches as long as I'm not playing a killer I'm bad at.
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I often have a really bad time as killer when i play late night. I'll usually play some duo survivor in the early evening central time and its not too bad, same with killer in the afternoons. But then i will play killer after midnight on my saturday sunday nights and my rank 12-14 killer almost always gets red and purple rank teams that beat the crap out of me.
Usually after 2 or 3 games i will quit after being constantly outmatched or will load up archive challenges and farm bloodpoints because thats all i can do.
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Ive learned, killer during the day, survivor at night.
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I think 1 in 10 is too low for late night. I can only speak to my experience as consistent purple rank killer but 3 in 10 is seal team 6, another 3 in 10 is more semi-casual 2-3 person SWF that can go either way, the remaining 4 in 10 is solo queue or maybe super casual SWF just messing around and i often find myself pulling back because it's a chance to lower my blood pressure after the seal team 6.
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Yeah the problem with that is the after midnight im playing solo and id rather play killer if I'm playing solo. Also the matchmaking is instantaneous at that time on the killer side and its usually 5 min + on the survivor side.
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Every now and then I boot up DBD and play a match during the day when I want to disconnect from work, and I'm asking myself who the heck are these other schmucks playing during the day instead of doing something productive like study or work? And then I realize they're probably thinking the same thing about me.
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I wouldn't call them "toxic" (some definitely are, don't get me wrong, but not the majority) but I do get a lot of very sweaty survivors with very strong builds, often the classic second chance meta perks. Most of them play like at least a 3-4 person SWF, and many of them are on Steam so I can check and confirm that and apply the same logic to non-steam groups. I'd say at least half my survivors are like that, and the fact that I don't seem to get teammates that play half as good most of the time (I run aura reading perks, I can see their gameplay and co-ordination) I'd say it's safe to assume that most of my opponents are sweaty SWF teams.
That's not to say they are doing anything wrong, or that it's an instant loss, it's just a thing I have to deal with because I play in the evenings. I'd call it my normal, but I know that most people I talk to think it's rather out of the ordinary.
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Matchmaking in the game sucks, and is going to pair you with whoever it needs to in order to make a game. If you are sitting at rank one, many of your opponents will be below you. More importantly, rank is not a proper indicator of skill. Survivors rank up more quickly than killers, so a rank 1 killer would likely be better than most rank 1 survivors. Survivors of equal skill to your own are going to be much tougher. Hopefully the new MMR system will be able to properly gauge skill.
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Yeah I read that only like 5% of matches are 3-4 man SWF but I swear I get tons of them when I play killer.
And pretty much any red ranked SWF game is going to be stressful even on killers I consider easy to play and relaxing.
I definitely still bring moris to ignore those death hook DSs cause I usually deal with SWF by tunneling hardcore.
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Nah, you are not. Even 4 man SWFs are not unbeatable, won against a 4 man SWF two days ago with Demo (BBQ, Infectious Fright, STBFL, Corrupt Intervention). Stories like that you need to play Nurse or Spirit or that you need to have Ruin/Undying are simply lies.
In general, playing Killer in DBD is not really stressful in my opinion for the most Part. Sure, there are games where I am beaten like there is no tomorrow (e.g. 1 game with Billy on Hawkins I knew I was going against good players in a 4 man SWF, all very nice people (two of them wanted to gift me a Kill in the end, but I refused), but I knew in the Lobby that this is gonna be a really tough game), but those are not the majority.
I am always wondering how players can struggle that much with the game, because while Killer is clearly harder to play, it is not that hard in general (and funnily enough, I did not manage to get to Rank 1 as Survivor for whatever reason, but am Rank 1 as Killer since the 15th). So when other players struggle, there are only a few explanations:
- I am a god (I am not)
- They are not as good as they think they are (likely)
- They really get other Matchmaking than me (unlikely)
- They are exaggerating (most likely)
If I look at the quality of Survivors in Red Ranks, I really cannot believe how someone can claim that they are losing most of their games. Sometimes I play a game as Killer and think I am beating up some Low Rank Survivors, just to see that they are all Red Ranks. And this is for Killer as well, running some Bubba around for a very long time (I am not that good at Looping), thinking he is Rank 12 or something, and in the Endscreen he drops from 1 to 2.
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i play demo so its a 100% chance that they're going to be toxic
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The experience they report is accurate, and it is also my experience most matches.
Voice comm Survivors are a cancer on this game.
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everyone gets the same matches, bad players just complain the most about imbalance or whatever just so they dont blame themselves for losing
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I'm sure some people are a bit more unlucky than others, but I'm also sure some people are simply more susceptible to negativity bias than others. To some one bad game can practically delete the memory of 20 "normal" games before it, no matter what that means to them. Others might get annoyed during the bad game, but they've already pretty much forgotten it by the time they're loading into another game.
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This is almost unavoidable due to negativity bias. It's pretty much built in to the human species.
I will say, I often get a lot of bad matches in a row, both as survivor and killer. I'll have match after match getting tunneled and camped. Or I'll have match after match of just miserable-to-play-against survivors. But then other days I'll have lots of good matches. It's one of those things.
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play some more low tier killers like clown, trapper, wraith,.... and you will see that even midrange game become harder and more likely to be toxic when they realisise they can push you around.
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Oh of course, it happens to everybody but I'm just saying it might have more of a (longer term) impact on some than others. Even though that probably does indeed have less to do with negativity bias itself and more to do with how irritable they are and how long they stay annoyed once something happens.
Put several people in the same annoying situation and some will "move on" from it faster than others. I certainly have anecdotal experience with people I've played with that point in that direction. Not claiming the people that move on faster are superior in some way, it's just people being different of course.
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I mean, I went through a period of about four days where I only got matched against sweaty/toxic red and purple rank survivors, SWF or not, as a green rank trapper I got endlessly bullied, it wasn't fun
Matchmaking can be unfortunate
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I must say, you must of went back in time..Cause, It sounds like you went to pre twitch stream sweat area (About when I started playing)...Good times.
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As others have said, its probably just negativity bias and such. People are much more likely to speak about something bad happening to them rather than something good. When a positive post does end up on the forums like "Oh I just won my last 10 games" it usually dies quickly as there's not much to say but "congrats" and such. So those get pushed away from most peoples eyes very quickly.
The frequency of good survivors definitely changes throughout the day as well and sometimes people just get unlucky. Recently I had 3-4 games in a row where there was an OoO user in it (one match had 2) even though I haven't seen that perk in 2 weeks or so at least before said incident.
How strong your killers are can also play a big part in how many of your games feel frustrating and such as a good survivor team will have a much easier time doing well against, or even bullying, a Clown or Legion than a Spirit or Nurse, so people playing those weaker killers will have many more frustrating matches.
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Nah you ain't alone. I live in the American Midwest and have played at all hours (I used to work 3rd shift so my sleep schedule was all messed up). Normally ranked 1-4.
Every so often I'll go against a toxic group of survivors but in my 2 years of playing, it's definitely less than 10 times.
A lot of killers assume good survivors are in a group or their ego is so large they can't accept that sometimes they'll just get out played and lose.
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I've played weaker killers at rank 1 during SWF hour and even though my matches usually end up being more stressful I'll still win most of my matches.
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SWF is not common, but not rare either. I can say half of my matches are against SWF (I can easily tell with their loadouts, like same cosmetics, 4 flashlights, same perks for all survivors, etc.)
With that many experience with SWF group as killer, it easily shows how SWF breaks the game. There is no chill match with SWF, I need to sweat as hard as I can to even have the chance.
also another thing, you main some of the best killers in the game. I don’t. I play any killer I like at the moment, including clown and legion (my main btw). So maybe you can still 3-4 kill with these SWF, but I certainly can’t.
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