Killers give hatch, do survivors give sacrifice?
As a survivor we've all probably had a killer give us the hatch at least once. Hopefully as killers we've done it on occasion to a noob who was clearly in over his head or to reward a survivor who played us particularly well.
But, have you ever had a survivor give you a sacrifice? I haven't. And if this is less common than giving hatches, what does that say about survivors in general?
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I've heard plenty plenty of people say they give obviously new killers or killers who really struggle in a match a kill
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I've had it happen to me, I also let myself die for the killer sometimes.
The chance increases a lot if I'm playing with friends, messing around and stuff. Or feel bad for the killer.
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Sometimes I do. I purposely let myself give them kills. It feels nice.
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Yes, Ive seen people give sacrifices to Killers, even to Killers who didnt deserve anything but tbags at the Exit Gates (tunnelers and campers).
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Sometimes I do give myself as a sacrifice to the killer.
Also I think the killer should get an option to just send the last survivor to the hatch. Because there is nothing worse than wandering around un-able to find the hatch with a cute Dweet on your shoulder.
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Oh yes. I've been teaming with brand newbie friends showing them the ropes, and with everyone rank 18-20 except me I do what I can to get them out. If the killer is particularly new I am that one kill they get at the end. Only fair.
So I safety or depip during this training mode, which ain't the worst thing either.
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I have had 2 times in 7 months a person give me an end-game sacrifice for getting destroyed so hard. Once when I tried playing nurse and once when facing a SWF that simply were at a totally different level than myself. So it does happen... very rarely.
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Yep, I have. If a Killer played a good match but was just struggling, I'll offer myself up to die.
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I’ve been given hatch exactly once and offered myself as a sacrifice once. Neither has happened very often so far in my experience.
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I'll sacrifice myself if it's an extremely noob killer or just a nice killer.
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Some survivors stay to give the killer extra hits and downs. I only do that if the killer is nearby and wants it, otherwise I leave. I am not the best looper, so a good killer is going to get hooks on me, so I usually don't offer them up. :p
The only time I gave hooks was during the Halloween event (2018 I think), when we had to collect the glowing liquid. I think killers collected it by hooking survivors, iirc. Most killers were good about letting us survivors fill our syringes, so it was only fair to return the favor.
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Been playing this game for almost 3 years, only ever had one survivor give me a kill when I did poorly.
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I think I've only given it twice, and only in 1 did they actually take it. Whenever I get stomped as a killer, I dont want pity kills, I want the game to get over with. Them leaving asap and not talking ######### afterwards is mercy enough for me as killer.
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I do this, but less frequently than I give hatch as killer. If it's a good, hard-fought match I usually just leave and say gg. If the killer was clearly a baby and just got screwed by matchmaking that's when I'll sometimes try to find them and let them hook me. One reason I think this is less common in reverse, though, is that survivors lose their items when they do that in addition to 5000 (or more if they're the obsession) BP. Killers only lose about a quarter as much BP for not sacrificing the last survivor.
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I can't give a recent opinion anymore as i've abandoned one side now, but when i played both sides about equally, Hatch-givers, the Killers, were way more common to me than Hook-givers, the Survivors.
Can't blame 'em really: 5k in the Survival category that's mostly empty at the end of the Trial is way more appealing to me than 2.5k in the Deviousness category that's often full at the end of the Trial on Wraith.
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For me, its very, very, VERY rare for survivors to show some empathy when my game was really bad and let me hook them, at least for the last BBQ stack. I do not even want the sacrfice then, just the hook, they could safely unhook. Happened maybe a dozen times in all my playing time (>3000h).
On the other hand, I tend to give the last survivor the gate and let them out (I'll play seriously until hatch is found and closed), if they did not play toxic or annoyed me in some other way. Esp for seemingly newer players, I may also drop them on the hatch so they can get the crawled out achievement.
When playing survivor, I get dropped on hatch rarely. Being allowed to open a gate and escape as the last is nearly always denied (you MEANIES!). But I gotta admit, the instances were I let myself die for the killer were also very rare, maybe like five times totally.
So all in all, survivors tend to be less emphatetic when they have won, and I'm not really different there, gotta admit ^^.
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The point about BP is very valid, yeah. Sometimes, when having maxed out all my other categories, I'm also letting the last one escape bc is know, it will only be something like additional 200 BP for me, but 5k for the survivor.
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If I'm facing an obvious inexperienced killer or if they're having a very rough game, I will gladly let the killer chase me a bit and then give them free hooks throughout the trial. If the killer sacrifices me, so be it.
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I've sacrificed myself many times, especially if the killer underperformed. I've intentionally stayed in the match to die. However a few times the killer was pretty bad and I think only hooked one or two times in total and I felt bad about it and I let the killer hook me but then I was face camped. So it can be hit or miss, sometimes I'm totally fine with getting hooked even twice if the killer wasn't able to accomplish anything but on the other hand sometimes the killer will just face camp you making it impossible to be rescued.
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I've let killers kill me. I often offer it to farming killers, and they'll usually turn it down. If a killer played really nicely and didn't tunnel, I might "screw up" so that they kill me (rather than possibly insult them by pointing at a hook like I'm taking pity on them). I've memed with baby Nurses and what not during the EGC so that the entity kills me. Things like that.
Every once in a while as killer a survivor offers to let me kill them or stays behind and dies to the EGC. Usually after a farming match, but sometimes for other reasons. It's pretty rare, though.
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I done it plenty of times if the killers tried their best to play fair and just had a tough match I will walk to a hook and let them kill me. For every toxic player in this game there is a player who just wants everyone in the match to have a fun match on either side. You can't judge everyone the same way it isn't fair on them or you because it makes you start resenting people without a reason to do so.
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It doesn't happen often (not nearly as often as I've been given the hatch as the last survivor), but it does occur and has for me. As was mentioned, the BP boost and emblem help for a survivor escaping is huge, and it's understandable why it's as rare as it is.
A couple of days ago, I had a group booping the snoot when I was playing Pig, so they were all getting out at that point, lol. I downed everyone at the gate and opened it for a Slug Race, but a Feng and Yui kept crawling back in anyway, despite my efforts to carry them back to the exit -- it got comical at the end. We were in Haddonfield, and the Feng ran into a building and I followed to watch the Entity take them. As toxic as the matches I'd been in all morning had been, moments like that makes me remember than nice people DO play this game.
Feng's sacrifice here:
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I absolutely have. I had a match where the mm was garbage and we got a low rank killer trying to learn nurse. She chased me pretty much the whole map and 4 gens. After moving on from me I saw two others teabagging and being a dick and she went off to practice on her own after last gen was done and egc was going on so I ran over and motioned her to come on and had her practice her blinks with me until time ran out.
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The first time I played nurse was for a mori ritual (I might be a fairly long-time player, but never been interested in trying to learn her blinks). I had 2 survivors give me the sac and mori, and it was the sweetest thing survivors have ever done for me
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I've given killers sacrifice more than I've been given the hatch. I'll give killers sacrifice that are nice or ones that focus on removing someone that had been screwing over the team. I'd say probably every game session I give atleast one kill to a killer.
The other day I had two Claudettes that were swf and kept trying to get the killer to go after me and my teammate - one brought a map so guessing was trying for the hatch and figured quickest way was to kill the teammates. I think killer realized that they were more focused on screwing over the team than working on escape. After my teammate had died and I was on death hook he left me alone and focused on them. He let me do gens and was going to let me go but I had entity take me instead since he wouldn't hook me, he deserved 4k.
During the 4 year anniversary once I had all my survivor crowns I was either having killers hook me for sacrifice or having entity kill me during EGC.
Most farming killers I give myself up for sacrifice/entity if I don't have a challenge going where I need to escape.
I have had farming killers that if I try to give them the kill they will bring me to exit and drop me so I'm forced out. I think those are the ones that will also give last survivor hatch.
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Being camped after being letting yourself downed for the killer to get a kill sucks, sure. Question is whether the killer actually recognized you were giving the kill for free. Esp. if it's a newer player, they just may not think about that possibility, and is just happy they got you still. If you were crystal clear about that (standing still and waving / pointing to a hook), then it's a jeerk move, thats for sure.
Know that I think about it, I did have the opportunity to get some "mercy" kills more often than I recalled previously. There were quite some instances with survivors pointing to a hook in end game, wanting me to hook them. But I usually deny that and do not touch them (except for BBQ stack maybe, and then I get extra far away so the others are not afraid to unhook), Just the selfless offer is often enough to "cool me down", so I can accept the defeat without additional mercy kills.
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If the other survivors in the match have been bullying the killer I'll purposely give the sacrifice! If they are of matching/average skill level then they should earn it like any other killer, otherwise how do they get better?
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Very very rarely.
It does happen though, but usually all killers get is t-bags. Hell, often times, you are EXPECTED to just give them hatch and if you don't they'll trash on you in post game chat.
However when I play survivor I will try and give struggling killers a free kill, so long as they played without hard core tunnelling/camping or running noed....Problem is perks like noed, blood warden, etc- can make it hard to do without messing up your team. I don't want to do that.
The killer however will try and force you out, or get you on hook and then team mates have to save them it's a whole mess- it's very hard to do sometimes. I think about it almost every game I am winning a lot in; but the practicality of doing it is often fairly rare.
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I do this very rarely, because most of the time the killer can secure at least one kill either way, and that with camping and tunneling.
fun fact: two times when I gave a killer a sacrifices (I was making noise near an open gate and waited under the hook) I was called a ‚#########‘ by the killer and they acted like they got me 😂
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I played around 300 hours killer. I had one match, where two survivors let me sacrifice them, because I did my best and got nothing out of this match.
I had endless matches, where boosted survivors complained why I didnt gave them hatch. I had to in their opinion.
And if I decided to give a hatch, like 70% came a salty comment in post game.
Survivor brains...
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I don't think it's a direct comparison like that. You can think that giving hatch is only equal to letting yourself get killed after you open gates and are safe (which I've done a few times to really new killers who got matched into a high rank survivor lobby) but I'd say that survivors staying to make a save in the endgame when the chances to save are really low and they could just leave is in the same bucket as giving hatch away.
They basically stay to rehook several times and give killer more BP, possibly even killing all of them if they mess up too hard. It happens a lot, probably not with the same generous intent (as they still want to save their teammates and escape) as giving hatch but I consider it very nice of survivors to stay and try to help their mates insted of leaving after a fast game with little to no BP on either side.
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Yes i give sacrifice to the killer for several reasons, but i am one of the only survivor players with some dignity out there, because i actually play killer.
- he deserves my kill when hes playing a low tier killer and has a hard time, or even gets bullied
- I played too tryhardy against an obvious low rank killer
- he was playing nice when the survivors didnt
- etc...
I really don´t like the survivor community, and don´t participate in their scummy behaviour against players that actually play killer these days.
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Yup, I'll let the Killer kill me if they had an obviously tough game with a four man escape. I'll mostly do it on the rare occasion I'm in a SWF, as my friends are low ranks so I often out match the Killer due to being a higher rank.
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Reminds me of a game I had as the killer playing nurse to learn. The last survivor also stood there for me to practice precision blinks and helped with my daily (the reason I played nurse). Maybe it was me maybe not, anyway thanks for being nice.
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I think giving hatch happens around 1/3 matches, if you happen to face me, I´ll almost always give hatch.
I have over 2k hrs but only once did Survivors give me free sacs, it was when I grinded Nurse achievements and I sucked as hard as you´d expect, they pittied me :D
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There are a few people who do..I do It If the killer gets frozen in one spot..I quickly get gens done and let the entity take me..Cause, the games code is bugger then a ant mound.
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As survivor I most likely give my item if killer was nice.
Rarely I played against survivors who pointed on hook at the match end. But only if I was memeing around with something like M2 only Billy. I remember playing as pig vs memeing swf on Game map. They let me put beartraps on their heads and then they repaired last gen and tried to find boxes. Someone died from trap, someone escaped, and couple of them waited for egc to kill them.
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To be honest, yes, as much as it is a much rarer practice. While I play killer, if I feel like it I will give the last survivor the hatch, perhaps being careful not to give it to the toxic one (which means, that if there are 2 people but he was the last downed, he will still be the one on the hook). The two things differ on a variety of points, though.
As a killer, I can give the hatch if:
- The survivor wasn't toxic;
- Out of pity for a particular survivor;
- Just being friendly;
- All of the aforementioned points, plus that survivor was really good.
As a survivor, instead, I tend to let the killer sacrifice me, or at least try to (as sometimes they won't do it anyway) if:
- The killer was friendly and farmed;
- The killer was a good player and didn't camp/tunnel/chase me forever/only ever hit people with instadowns (very VERY rare instances);
- The killer still hasn't learned how to play and ended up with no kills, but he didn't tunnel/camp.
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In the ~2 years I've been playing this game:
In any normal match? No not once.
In a match where I was just focusing on challenges and letting survivors do the same or just being extra generous/nice because of my mood that day? Yes.
I've never had a survivor give me a sacrifice for having a bad game or anything.
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I had people dying for the entity for me when they clearly could have escaped in some fun matches I didn't so well, but didn't camp or tunnel anyone.
On the other hand, I don't care about piping do much. Actually, if I see I'm going towards red ranks and the killer wasn't playing "scummy", I often do give them my kill. If I noticed they're doing a daily like "use Demo full charged shred", I even stand still so they can land the attack. Sometimes me and my friends all die in the end game. It just depends on how the trial was.
I'd say that right now it's rare that a killer gives hatch, though I think it's polite. This week I even made some new friends by giving hatch on steam. But you have all kind of survivors, just as you have all kind of killers.
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I can be the most toxic POS but i am always willing to get sacrificed for free by the killer if he played well or he was kinda noob. The issue is that killers are often toxic even when noone is playing toxic so as usual if you play like a jerk don't expect any kindness by your opponents
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That has a lot of contradictions there, in it, on your part... Im surprised you dont seem to see that yourself.
Do you play Killer how much?
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I give Killers a Kill if they were obviously new and I'm safe to blackpip or if they played a killer just for the Archives and wanted to farm.
It happend to myself in some cases as well. One time all 4 let themselves die to EGC to say thx after my farming match (I was playing Blight 4 the Archive) because they only had campers/tunnelers/mori before that.
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I'll give killers a kill if they played fair, I'm sure I'll blackpip or it was a farming match
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Love people implying that survivors are terrible because they don't give killers free kills. I can't remember the last time a killer has given me hatch.
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Sometimes I've had survivor's give me a sacrifice, but I never understand why.
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I usually give killers a kill if they're farming. Like I still get my blood points, but I try to be nice as much as possible.
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Honestly it feels like I dont give hatch that much anymore. Mainly for the reason that everyone I face is toxic, and why would i give a toxic person hatch.
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I've seen both, though getting a free hatch is a lot more common than getting a free kill. TBH, I'm also a lot more likely to give someone hatch than I am to give someone a kill. I think it's because letting someone have the hatch basically just means choosing to do nothing, whereas letting someone hook you when they otherwise wouldn't have requires more effort.
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I'll usually always let a killer kill me if they're a memer. Nothing in this game is more enjoyable for me than playing against memers.
If a killer struggles but still plays nice despite the fact I'll let them kill me too.
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