Please nerf Freddy
He's easy as hell. You can be 5 years old and blind, and you'll 4k everygame
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Thats a bit of an over exaggeration, but he could certainly use some changes. I want him to be reworked again, not because of his kit being awful but because of how boring it is. Dreams are the scariest thing ever and the only thing they could come up with was tar blood and fake pallets, the only part that actually feels "dreamlike" is the gens bleeding.
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Not that I object to making freddy more dreamy than he already is, but I think there are many more killers id rather get tinkered with first.
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Thats true, characters like legion need a rework far more.
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That's dumb, you just got bad Freddys, here some official info:
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Nurse is the weakest killer in dbd now I guess.
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Yeah, they nerfed her really bad, in red ranks she is still lower than the average
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Those stats are very very old..people have adapted and both freddy and ruin were nerfed since this..in a word..completely irrelevant man
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Finals of last year? No, they haven't really change freddy since then, so the issue stills. Devs can confirm stats if they want to. And you can't just ignore stats because you don't like what you see.
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Full SWF kill rate might be 60% for Fredy.
Hey but from the other end, trials with randoms will be about 90+% kill rate.
Today on rank 3-4 almost every game 4K and the sluging was big problem.
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Personally I have no issues with him. If you're having a hard time looping him then just stay awake as much as possible.
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I'll take Freddy over Spirit any time.
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To be fair, that info is useless without knowledge about the game. Its super old and a lot has change since then, and at the same time you are not considering the learning curve for those killers. Nurse is the lowest because is the hardest, so the only nurse having succes are the good nurses, but everybody has acces to nurse, making all that info to spread between a few good players and a lot of bad players. Freddy without a doubt is a strong and easy killer, for the most part having some mid level of skill will allow you to win most matches (consider 2k as a win), but that doesnt make him unfair or anything like that, he is easy, but why is that a problem? You cant have every killer to have a huge learning curve as the nurse, because there is nowhere to start as a new player, thats the main reason that trapper is and will always be the most popular killer where almost everyone starts, he is easy to play (Yes, there is some learning curve and adaptation a long the way, but its not huge) does that makes trapper and unfair killer? No.
So the problem here is not that he is "easy" to play, your problem is that he is a bit too opressive, and the truth is that he is not that big of a deal. In my opinion he is really boring to play against, because of how the "dream world" works, that realm doesnt add enough to the game to be an interesting killer.
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That is more an oversight of the Devs I guess. An easy fix would be that being Oblivious also blocks the Killer's aura from being seen.
Same thing happens if the killer uses Nemesis or Death Bound.
I would like it to be fixed. I hate Object vs. Freddy... No mindgames possible.
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Hey ☺️
Freddy havent been touched since yet, (fear from devs) so your point is not really valid. And giving less people access to the nurse doesnt implies they are quite better, let me include red ranks stats for you.
As you can see she stills weak between good players. This chart can refuse your learning curve hypothesis. ☺️ And I agree, it is boring to play against freddy.
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I dont think you understand that "Red ranks" doesnt mean anything at all in this game. Thats why they are making so many changes to the matchmaking and a lot of players who make it to red ranks dont make it playing Nurse, and that chart will even show you that most players probably got up there playing Spirit or Billy, and then Freddy or Huntress. But okay, lets go with it. We agree on the fact that Freddy is easy to play, there is no need to speak more of that, there is also the fact that Freddy is a strong killer, but not an unfair one. As far as I can tell you think he is unfair and want him nerfed, you dont want to make him harder to play, you just want to nerf him. I said that the Nurse is the strongest killer in the game, and that chart doesnt reflect that, just to give you an idea that the chart is useless without proper context and information, and for some reason you think that chart goes against the idea that nurse have a higher learning curve than Freddy, and in fact does the opposite. The chart shows that in red ranks the easiest killer to play and because of that same reason the most consistent one is Freddy, then Billy and then Spirit, and then Hag. Players from the red ranks dont necessarily play nurse, like there is no way to know how many red ranks players actually know how to play nurse, but still you can have an idea because of how much the killrate from nurse jumps from every player to red ranks that the most competent players perform way better with her, and the new players struggle really hard with her, making the whole point of the "Learning curve" more clear. While at the same time Freddy stays in a good spot in both scenarios because he is in fact easy to play, he doesnt have a huge learning curve and he doesnt need that.
But that chart doesnt say that he is the strongest killer in the game and needs to be nerfed because of that. It doesnt even tell you what is problematic about the Spirit for example, or why the Nurse needed some changes (and even to this day she needs some changes). That chart says nothing about why those killers are there in the first place, it just tell you that they are there. And to get some reasons you need to understand the game itself, the changes, and the context in wich this was done.
So, with that in mind lets look at the context. Nurse at that time got a rework, main reason why (they actually did that chart and) her stats are lower that the rest of the killers from 72% to 65% this chart comes from the chapter 3.3.0 updated in October, Freddy was reworked on July patch 3.1.0. Since then the only changed made to him has been the "Oblivious status effect". This means that at that time Nurse changes made a huge impact on how she was performing, but at the same it doesnt show how Freddy changes impacted on his own charts during all that time. The reason why this is important is because we dont know how well or poorly he was doing at the moment of his own rework and how players adapted during that time, to this day there is no chart that allows us to compare the adaptation from players to Freddy rework. To extend this you have to take into consideration all the perks changes made during that time, and to this day to figure out how much impact they have on killers kill rate.
To make this short: Freddy is strong and easy. Yes. Freddy is not unfair to play against, and there is other more problematic killers like Spirit and Nurse.
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If you understand stadistics then you'll find out main nurses are the first source of information in nurses data. Other players like Hillbilly o Spirit mains are a slower percentage and not that meaningful. Red ranks, are still on his majority experienced players.
"you dont want to make him harder to play", ive never told that thing, maybe making it harder will compensate his capacity.
"I said that the Nurse is the strongest killer in the game, and that chart doesnt reflect that" and, as you can see, you are wrong. That you don't like the stats doesnt mean you can ignore it.
"you think that chart goes against the idea that nurse have a higher learning curve than Freddy" No, you are not paying attention, I didnt mean nurse haven't a learning curve, she does, but even in the pinnacle she is not as strong as before, is just weak. Again, dont ignore the charts because you dont like it.
So "there is also the fact that Freddy is a strong killer, but not an unfair one", really? Being a good killer (4K, of course) after learning how to play with a nurse for months to become the strongest killer is fair, but being strong (with o without experience) just because flaws in the desings of the killer is just not good for me, nor anyone.
"But that chart doesnt say that he is the strongest killer in the game" actually it says that, I dont know wich chart are you looking at.
And you are staying that "Oblivious status effect" made a huge impact on Freddy, and that may be more balanced? Come on, what a joke.
"To extend this you have to take into consideration all the perks changes", general perks changes doesnt afect a particular killer, thats out of subject.
I guess you haven't played nurse in a while, maybe you should try. Then you could stop making up things.
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Do you struggle a lot playing Nurse and thats whats this is about?
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Haha cmon, do you struggle a lot playing Freddy? Im just staying real facts, if you wanna ignore real data, and make up 2 thousand variables then go ahead 😊
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No, I do play them both and I think they are both strong, I said Freddy is strong and easy to play, Nurse is strong and hard to play. But you are saying that Nurse is weak because of that chart.... Like are you for real? Im not wasting more of my time with you lol
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"I said Freddy is strong and easy to play" no sh** einstein 😂
"But you are saying that Nurse is weak because of that chart" You make up half of the things "I say" 🤣 thats really lame. need no chart but is ok.
And of course you are wasting your time, your arguments are pitiful ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ have a good day
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imagine having an opinion
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I agree, he's got too much in his kit.
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This a joke comment right? Nobody’s trying to shut anyone’s opinion down.
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I strongly agree. he is extremely overpowered and the devs needs to revisit him and nerf him.
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I can't believe people still tug their weiners over how great they think they are at a video game. If you're going to lie, make it plausible next time. Or, play him without any perks and add ons and then come tell us how awesome your mother said you were.
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