im just gonna come out and say it
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@friendlykillermain said:
@amneoss said:
Why does he need a Nerf?
Why not bring others up to his level?then every killer would be way too difficult to go against even as a killer main myself (shape/pig) i really dont feel every survivor main should have to suffer the game should be fun for both sides and hillbilly on Ps4 Just tips the scales.
Nope, people would just stop playing Billy and you'd see nothing but Nurses til she got nerfed, then no Killers at all. Remember how Freddy got nerfed into the ground a week after release and now he's a joke? That's what would happen.
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@TigerKirby215 said:
@F5arTheB5ard said:
So all killers should suck besides the nurse?Nurse also needs a heavy rework tbh don't @ me. She completely ignores the core concepts of this game. In a game based entirely around running around map props her power is to ignore map props: what?
On topic: Hillbilly could honestly be 110% MS and no one would bat an eye (except for the salty killer mains.) He has the best mobility ability in the game and an instadown; moving slightly slower when not using the Chainsaw wouldn't be that bad.
When you compare it to Spirit (she can move slightly faster after standing still for 3 seconds! Oooooh!) Billy is way more powerful. Yet Spirit is 110% and Billy is 115%.That's the point sergeant.
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It always surprises me how people comment on the power role being too powerful. Here you have a killer that is an intimidating opposing Force to be feared, rightfully so with his instant down chainsaw. But instead of being more cautious, the complaint that I can't run away in plain sight takes the mainstream. Hillbilly is not overpowered, your survival Style just might not be compatible. Switch it up and experiment.2
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Agree with that plus the chainsaw's hitbox is irritating and insta-chainsaw makes it even worse with very common addons .. like If I want an easy game, billy is the way to go & at high rank nothing but billy on console why ? It's obvious ...
Skillbilly ? Literally a lot of players using the chainsaw just to move fast and just mallet survivors, what kind of skills is this ? lol
On PC all games like nurse, billy, nurse, billy, nurse, huntress
People want to see different killers to enjoy more not same killers over and over it's just boring.. balance killers .. wake up Devs!! You have no idea of how to run the game2 -
No he doesn't. Hes one of the most balanced killers and one of my favorites to face.
The counter to him is to turn slightly to the left or right. In fact... I can't even remember the last time I got chainsawed.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@F5arTheB5ard said:
So all killers should suck besides the nurse?no they're are still many viable candidates but from my personal experience hillbilly is just too easy to reach high ranks and on ps4 surviving will always put you against a hillbilly not even kidding 98% hillbilly match he is too easy to play completely effectively
Billy isn't OP. He takes skill to use, and skill to beat. He's kinda perfect. The range of his sprint seems silly as a stand alone point, but it's that speed and range that lets him compete at high skill levels. I will state that I don't like using him, but that's probably because i suck with him. I prefer Spirit/Hag/Doctor. which means those are what I play in high skill games on ps4, and I find that if I do something, a bunch of other people are doing it too.
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@SK92 said:
Agree with that plus the chainsaw's hitbox is irritating and insta-chainsaw makes it even worse with very common addons .. like If I want an easy game, billy is the way to go & at high rank nothing but billy on console why ? It's obvious ...
Skillbilly ? Literally a lot of players using the chainsaw just to move fast and just mallet survivors, what kind of skills is this ? lol
On PC all games like nurse, billy, nurse, billy, nurse, huntress
People want to see different killers to enjoy more not same killers over and over it's just boring.. balance killers .. wake up Devs!! You have no idea of how to run the gameExactly
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@SmokePotion said:
@friendlykillermain said:
@F5arTheB5ard said:
So all killers should suck besides the nurse?no they're are still many viable candidates but from my personal experience hillbilly is just too easy to reach high ranks and on ps4 surviving will always put you against a hillbilly not even kidding 98% hillbilly match he is too easy to play completely effectively
Billy isn't OP. He takes skill to use, and skill to beat. He's kinda perfect. The range of his sprint seems silly as a stand alone point, but it's that speed and range that lets him compete at high skill levels. I will state that I don't like using him, but that's probably because i suck with him. I prefer Spirit/Hag/Doctor. which means those are what I play in high skill games on ps4, and I find that if I do something, a bunch of other people are doing it too.
Yes I know skill illy exists and that's fine but my problem is the fact that his skill floor is way too easy to reach therefore a lot of lazy people will just grind down to rank 1 in a week or so only using Billy to the least of his potential.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
No he doesn't. Hes one of the most balanced killers and one of my favorites to face.The counter to him is to turn slightly to the left or right. In fact... I can't even remember the last time I got chainsawed.
But what about that lunge?
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Hillybilly and Nurse are the #1 answers to keeping up with highly coordinated Rank 1 SWF teams that are playing to win as opposed to memeing around / making YOLO plays for their BFFs. It's why you only see those 2 about 90% of the time at Rank 1 (atleast when both sides aren't boosted from x2 BP / Event farming).
If you want either of them nerfed then you damn well better want something done about SWF.
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@HP150 said:
Hillybilly and Nurse are the #1 answers to keeping up with a highly coordinated Rank 1 SWF teams that are playing to win as opposed to memeing around / making YOLO plays for their BFFs. It's why you only see those 2 about 90% of the time at Rank 1.If you want either of them nerfed then you damn well better want something done about SWF.
Exactly swf shouldn't be ranked because in the end it ruins the experience and will completely destroy many killers such as the trapper and other killers that rely on stealth. I swear if swf wasn't ranked think of all the better games
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He has the same lunge as all the other killers.friendlykillermain said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
No he doesn't. Hes one of the most balanced killers and one of my favorites to face.The counter to him is to turn slightly to the left or right. In fact... I can't even remember the last time I got chainsawed.
But what about that lunge?
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The only thing I suggest is this:
When the player stops holding M2 while running, he continues running for a second or so, so that the missed chainsaw hits are more punishing.1 -
Lmfao, billy on PS4 is so bad compared to PC. 90% of billys on here are basically huntress mains that cant play huntress XD And in terms of nurse I love playing against bad nurses (like myself) and I love being made pregnant by good nurses
You have to have some form of respect for good nurses because the skill floor is so high. Even with billy, he's not instant rank 1. Billy still requires map knowledge and the works to be effective.0 -
@friendlykillermain said:
@SmokePotion said:
@friendlykillermain said:
@F5arTheB5ard said:
So all killers should suck besides the nurse?no they're are still many viable candidates but from my personal experience hillbilly is just too easy to reach high ranks and on ps4 surviving will always put you against a hillbilly not even kidding 98% hillbilly match he is too easy to play completely effectively
Billy isn't OP. He takes skill to use, and skill to beat. He's kinda perfect. The range of his sprint seems silly as a stand alone point, but it's that speed and range that lets him compete at high skill levels. I will state that I don't like using him, but that's probably because i suck with him. I prefer Spirit/Hag/Doctor. which means those are what I play in high skill games on ps4, and I find that if I do something, a bunch of other people are doing it too.
Yes I know skill illy exists and that's fine but my problem is the fact that his skill floor is way too easy to reach therefore a lot of lazy people will just grind down to rank 1 in a week or so only using Billy to the least of his potential.
I think he has a pretty solid skill floor. Holding the rev of the chainsaw while chasing and getting in range to use it's kinda wonky slash is not easy. Controling the sprint to get across the map and around small bumps on the ground that will snag you, is not easy. In fact using his chainsaw in general is awkward. Leatherface is who you're complaining about. He has a shallow skill floor and his kit makes high level play more difficult (lack of any kind of movement buff makes map pressure harder, among other things)
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He definitely needs nerfing.
You can switch from some of the mid tier killers to him, have zero experience with him and still feel godlike in terms of power over the survivors.
Nurse at least takes practise. Billy requires very little skill in comparison.
His chainsaw is the problem. Its so easy to 1 hit them. He shouldnt be able to walk behind people and 1 hit so easily.4 -
They can’t nerf him because every other killer is butt but nurse. Once the killer role itself and solo Q is balanced, then hillbilly would see a nerf. A very small one, but still. I don’t even know how you’d nerf nurse. Her balance is a house of cards. One nerf would bring her from top to bottom
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@Jack11803 said:
They can’t nerf him because every other killer is butt but nurse. Once the killer role itself and solo Q is balanced, then hillbilly would see a nerf. A very small one, but still. I don’t even know how you’d nerf nurse. Her balance is a house of cards. One nerf would bring her from top to bottomYeah that's true but nurse is basically fine only because her skill ceiling is extremely high.
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@EntityDispleased said:
His ability does not help him in loops and that's his main downside. Sure you might get a chainsaw at a loop but you need some godlike timing and add ons like spiked boots and thompson's moonshine and even then it's still hard as hell. The only nerf I can see happening to him is dropping his movement speed to 110% which will make him a huntress with no hatchets when being looped.Eh
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@Jack11803 said:
They can’t nerf him because every other killer is butt but nurse. Once the killer role itself and solo Q is balanced, then hillbilly would see a nerf. A very small one, but still. I don’t even know how you’d nerf nurse. Her balance is a house of cards. One nerf would bring her from top to bottom105-110% movement speed, blink gets a cooldown similar to spirit. Survivors hit make her unable to teleport for 10 secs.
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I think nurse could have a nerf where her blinks have a cooldown.0
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This thread is nuts lol. It would be good if they would reduce billy's movement speed because his ability gives him great map control and he can also one hit surv with a too big hit box. Almost every killer is fun to play on red rank if u use him right and know what survs can do. Pc players act so entitled sometimes. Sure survs are stronger and the game needs still tweaks to get balanced but killer got easier on red rank in the last months. Also billy is on the rework list anyway (addon changes) so maybe thevy will tweak him anyway. Billy is the most played killer in red rank on all platforms due to how easy he is to play for the results he gets.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@Jack11803 said:
They can’t nerf him because every other killer is butt but nurse. Once the killer role itself and solo Q is balanced, then hillbilly would see a nerf. A very small one, but still. I don’t even know how you’d nerf nurse. Her balance is a house of cards. One nerf would bring her from top to bottomYeah that's true but nurse is basically fine only because her skill ceiling is extremely high.
De-pi squad is fine, its was our amazing people! Yeah no, that’s not how game balance works
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So basically, we will get buffed Spirit (and hammer nerfed Nurse)?MhhBurgers said:@Jack11803 said:
They can’t nerf him because every other killer is butt but nurse. Once the killer role itself and solo Q is balanced, then hillbilly would see a nerf. A very small one, but still. I don’t even know how you’d nerf nurse. Her balance is a house of cards. One nerf would bring her from top to bottom105-110% movement speed, blink gets a cooldown similar to spirit. Survivors hit make her unable to teleport for 10 secs.
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