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No shade, but are those getting eye strain from new UI survivor mains?
Serious question.
Because as someone that plays killer a lot the new UI isn’t causing me any issues.
Why?
As a killer my eyes already were darting around the entire screen all the time anyway looking for movement, scratch marks, and crow activity, especially out of a chase.
Like... to me this is something every killer should already be doing. So what’s also moving your eyes around to new HUD placements?
So I have to ask, seriously, are those experiencing problems players that never play killer?
edit: apologies. Seems many on both sides are experiencing issues. I need to be grateful that I’m lucky to not be having problems.
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I can only speak for myself, but no. I hate it as killer also.
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I play Killer and the new HUD strains my eyes, I do look at every place butif I want to check the corner of my screen I move the camera and center it ALSO the icons are very small I have bad eyesight and it forces my eyes too much.
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I play both sides and I find the UI awful. I doubt the huge amount of people who are complaining only play survivor. In fact, it makes sense that killer mains would complain more, since, like you said, you need to look all over the screen to look for "hints" (English isn't my main language and I can't think of a better word rn sorry) that survivors are there, and the new UI covers a lot more of the screen than the previous UI used to, thus being an obstacle to see those "hints" (scratch marks, crows, etc). Yeah you can scale it and make it small but then you have to squint to see anything on it, lol.
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Yes. My eyes are in pain. In pain because of how bad this new HUD is. PAIN. They just dont care anymore(if they ever did lol). No one wanted this. And im not even talking about look of the new HUD. Its not helpful at all. Its confusing. At this moment taking a break from this bs. And i hope im not the only one.
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Yes. It hurts my eyes and my neck. There's no way I can play DBD for more than an hour now. Luckily the broken hit boxes are a great deterrent from wanting to keep playing.
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I'm more of a killer main and have about 6000 hours in this game and never had a problem whatsoever.
The new HUD however already caused me eyes strains and headaches after playing a few games.My problem is that my eyes also try to focus on the information of the HUD on the sides and corners even if i try to focus on the middle.
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I'm blind in my left eye, have been since I was born, so I don't know if it's just me or not, but with this new HUD, it feels like my eye is darting around the screen like a pinball, it's super disorienting. As a survivor, I'm constantly flicking the camera around looking for the killer, other survivors, crows, gens, totems, ect., and now I have to look at every part of the screen for information at any given moment. I'm not really liking it at all.
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I play killer primarily and I hate it.
I have a hard time looking up there and seeing faded white in maps like meat plant; it's a cluster of too much effects so it's hard to tell who is injured or what, I can't read the names, I can't tell who is my obsession unless I walk into a wall for like 2 seconds trying to make it out....
It's just a nightmare.
I've basically just given up on using the UI at all, I play blind now.
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As a Killer, you actually have less visibility. The Hud takes up more of the screen.
Just because you are used to darting your eyes around the screen doesn't make this HUD change good, in any way. On top of that, it is different looking around for survivors/scratchmarks and looking around for basic stats.
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I'm sorry about your eye condition, as someone who's never experienced blindness it terrifies me
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I have a huge TV and playing survivor is annoying with this new UI. it's downgrade for sure. Haven't played killer today, but I bet it'll be the same thing.
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It's alright! I understand the feeling, but I've had to deal with it my whole life, so it's not usually a bother or hindrance!
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I played a few hours of killer today and the new UI didn't bother me at all. It's not as if you need to constantly keep tabs on the gen's and your perks. Everything important is on the left side. Your power, hooks, and survivor health states.
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I understand that logic but when looking over to the important things your focus is on that and since everything is everywhere your focus is less on finding survivors and on gathering information
it's not by much but it's just bad anyway.
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I'm a killer main and that UI is killing me. It maybe due to some pretty rare eye muscle problem I have, but still, I get nauseous after only a couple of games.
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This. I play both sides but today I only played few matches of survivor. I had to look away while doing interactions because if I tried focusing on skill checks/progress the stuff all over the screen is trying to pull my focus in multiple directions at once causing eye strain followed by headaches. If I decreased the size of the HUD it increased eye strain. I only played a few survivor matches before shutting the game off because a headache was forming from the eye strain, I didn't even bother trying to play killer.
It's one thing to move your eyes around to check surroundings voluntarily, it's another when your eyes are being pulled involuntarily in multiple directions.
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No tea not shade no lemonade.
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And I thought I was the only person that had a lot of eye pain while playing.
Killer main btw
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No I think I'd find it less distracting in 3rd person view but in first person having the still icons at both sides and above with the background rushing past game me motion sickness tonight.
I prefer killer to survivor but I really couldn't focus in 1st person view with that UI it felt cluttered and made me nauseated after a few games. I tried to ignore it and push through thought I'd give it a good go and get used to it but now my eyes are strained and I just don't want to look at it anymore.
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I have now played 3 games as a Killer and 5 games as a Survivor under the new UI.
The only difference is I had to change my Discord overlay cause it was blocking the Survivor portraits.
Other than that, I'm good.
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lmao nobody is getting eye strain from the new UI. Every modern game out there has a UI like this. People don't play Call of Duty or League of Legends darting their eyes around the screen and get eye strain. I don't understand why people hate the UI so much and at this point people are just making stuff up. Either the community just doesn't play any other modern video game or they're just trying to find things to get mad at.
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Actually when I think about it, it wasn't as bad as the killer yeah. I don't really keep track of gens or hooks. I just catch survivors and have fun with them but as a survivor, you constantly have to look up a little and the hook timers are bit difficult to see. It felt more easy on eyes to look down rather than up which opens eyes more.
I guess that could be one reason. Still very minor difference though.
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"Every modern game out there has a UI like this" No they don't. Most all games are trying to reduce the HUD as much as possible.
Besides that, League isn't nearly as fast-paced as DbD, and the information isn't needed as much.
No one is making anything up, those who have eye problems get terrible eye strain from rapid eye movements. Just because you don;t experience it doesn't mean it's made up.
Lastly, this HUD is objectively bad game design. There's a reason many older MMOs have updated their HUDs to be more streamlined, minimalistic, and condensed.
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Damn,must be a coincedence that i get eye strain after playing a few games with this HUD but never got any before :(
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So anybody that experiences eye strain from a UI all the way around the screen can't play
Call of Duty:
League of Legends:
World of Warcraft:
Civ 5:
I'm sorry for making such a long post with pictures but those are just examples from the many genres that use UIs like this. I would be hard pressed to find any modern game that doesn't have stuff in 2 different corners at least.
It sucks that people that experience eye strain can't play these games but at that point they literally can't play 95% of all video games because dbd is one of the only games that had everything in one spot. No games do this anymore and the reason why is because it's useful. It was popular at one point in like 1996 with the original DOOM games but not in 2021. If a game wants to be even somewhat competitive they need a UI like this. Nobody plays Call of Duty or any other shooter you can name and goes: "WAIT.. I have to look in the bottom right in my screen to see my ammo count and then look in the top left to see my mini map?? NOOOO". That just doesn't happen. This was a good change and i'm just waiting for people to calm down about it and get used to it. it's modern game design.
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I played games like Monster Hunter World before,which also had a spread out UI similiar to DbD now but it still didn't gave me any eye strain at all.
DbD is the first game ever that did this
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Oh my Lord someone who's not bashing on the complain train. Finally. I agree with a lot of what you said and it sucks for the people who get eye strain from the new UI but I mean with the examples you've given... You're right. Hopefully people calm down and actually attempt to get used to it before trying to burn down BHVR. Play it for a week. Don't like it? Then you can complain about it. Getting all worked up over something that hasn't been out for even a day yet is pointless.
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I play both sides and yes. Not only eye strain but it also makes me dizzy because I have to move my eyes a lot. This is so bad. I really hope they make some changes to it :(
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Yep. I find it makes me a little motion sick and the white gen font at the top is hard to read on certain maps.
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To help you understand, imagine you have a cat. Your friend comes over and tells you they have cat allergies. You wouldn't sit there and complain that they aren't allergic to rabbits or dogs. If they mentioned it was the cat's hair or the way they groomed themselves which caused it, you wouldn't sit there and say that well dogs and rabbits do the same and they don't have a problem.
Sometimes it's just the right combination or the right effects that can cause someone to feel sick from the UI. I don't get motion sickness or headaches from most games but there are some games that I just do and with DBD I just have a hard time watching or playing for more than 8 minutes before starting to feel sick and needing to take a break.
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Well, you're completely incorrect here. Every mobile game has a UI like this, but not normal videogames that are PVP and require you to pick up information all the time.
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i mean for cod you only really need to look at the bottom part of the ui, for league its the same, and idk about civ/wow.
DBD Ui has important info on both the top left and bottom right. With items and the gen count on the top and bottom left which are somewhat important to look at every so often. and then crap apears on the right side of the screen like exaustion which is very important and then theres just scoring events which can be distracting.
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Notice how you perceive those specific cases as being the same, but they're very different, except in the case of Civ, which can afford to have everything all around and has a lot more information to give, because while it can be PVP, it isn't fast-paced; its a 4X game that you can take your time playing.
In others, the important information is all in one general area, and notice how it's always in the bottom, with the exception of minimaps (except for a few outliers) because it's easier to gather from there and you usually don't need all of this information at once. Of course, it's not in one tiny, condensed spot, but it also isn't spread out while still managing to avoid the clutter. Meanwhile, we have a cluttered UI that confuses and makes it hard to follow what's going on despite being spread out. And let's not forget that some of the new symbols make absolutely no sense. (The injured symbol looks more like they're an obsession in that it reminds me of when people get obsessive and slash out the face of a person in all their pictures, etc)
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Maybe people don't like it because they already played enough games to know what they like and don't like in a hud.
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I play both but I could not play more than 2 games as killer. I don't have to jerk my eyes around in how i look at the screen on the same 32 inch monitor i've used for years now. Literally the issue is this: to see status of survivors glance left, have to chcek the center screen, look around, then glance up for gens..... meanwhile the movement on the irght side with the scoring events pulls me so instead of one place for most of the information i'm being dragged away from what i'm actually doing and it hurt
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Same, thought when playing survivor it was way worse than killer. I think I will check out Civilisation this month and the next.
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Its not only about the position, its also about the size, the contrast with the background and the need to check that info regularly.
First image the minimap is pretty big, unlike the icons of the Survivors, also the mission objective and the compass on top is not info you need to check several times, plus the map has a nice contrast being light gray against a black circle.
The second is WoW which is know for being easily customizable with addons (most people do change the HUD to something else), also the bars are brightly colored and have a nice contrast against the background plus the info the portraits give is also available on the center of the screen (the damage you deal appearing as floating white/yellow text over the mob, the damage you receive appearing in floating red text over your character), the abilities at the bottom dont really need checking for once you memorize their hotkeys you dont even have to check them.
The third is CIV, a game that can be paused to check wathever you need without a hassle also the circle on the top left corner is the research you are doing, a mechanic that takes several turns to complete, the icons on the top right corner are the menus, both displays dont need to be checked regularly.
All these 3 examples arent valid because the problems are the new HUD in DBD is very small, fixed in a location, has very dark colors against a very dark background and is info you need to check several times in the lapse of a minute not once at the start of your turn.
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Yep. The eye strain is real.
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Look, the new UI doesn't give me motion sickness or eye strain or send me spasming and retching and somehow give me malaria like it apparently does for a lot of other people.
It all just gets funneled into being pissed off.
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while I don’t hate the new hud I liked the old one since I could look in the bottom left a get an idea of the current state of the game I’m in.
It was just easier to see everything you needed to see. Blood points were also in close proximity to your icons so you could get an idea of where you were in terms of BP while still knowing what everyone was up to
Also while I don’t get affected by motion sickness I have seen people get motion sickness from the sudden camera change when downed which is not good.
People are overreacting but it isn’t really a good change
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Playing both and it's a mess on both sides.
The thing is now that your eyes flick more. As killer and survivor the main attention is on the central row of a 3x3 grid, occasionally flicking to either corner with the old HUD. with the new one you flick your eyes around to pretty much all sections of the grid (3 places for three different bit of info that were condensed in one sector before)
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Killer main, I hate it.
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I guess your only other choice is Minecraft, then.
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Doesn't give me eye strain but it's more annoying having to grow my third eye out just to play.
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