Feedback for UI & Animation

Everything on the screen is spread out, character icons change was unnecessary, and they look way too "out-of-place", also they're a bit distracting, exhaustion icon outline color is bad, so it's hard to tell when your perk is ready to use again. Also, please, get rid of those small button icons on your item or killer power, because that is some tutorial stuff. Make better and longer tutorial where you teach all that stuff.

Game is from 2016 and it has very few in-game options (compared to game file options). I have an option idea!:

Revert back to old UI

And this has been posted tens of times already:

Thank you.

The new animations don't fit the "there's a killer around" vibe of the game, unless you want to ignore the lore of your own game, like you do with players, and say that the survivors are actually aware of the trials and how the entity consumes their fear and hope, and revives them and erases their memory after death.

The UI is honestly not awful, in my (very unpopular) opinion, just worse than the old one. You could have implemented the only real improvement it has, the hook counter/stages, easily in the old one. I don't remember with certainty if anyone from BHVR manifested themselves back when Hexy hosted a tournament, but it had a very similar feature designed for it and it looked pretty good with that UI.

The old UI isn't a solution, especially at the loss of hook counters. The current one can be made to work with a few adjustments to position, font readability, and scaling.

The ability to adjust placement of elements would be helpful in providing individuals a layout they can find comfortable. If not that, placing the Survivor HUD elements further down closer to the items and add-ons may also help with keeping information close together while maintaining a sense of space as to not feel clustered.

Greater contrast in the coloration of Survivor nametags and portraits can add to readability at a glance. Individual element scaling can also help along with the positioning mentioned above.

I don't presume that any of this would be easy to implement, but I would say these offer a basis to the staff maintaining their new HUD while increasing accessibility.

UI

After several matches I do not like the new HUD. I would've played more but due to eye strain causing headaches I had to turn off the game. While additional information like hook states and character portraits are nice additions the overall execution of the HUD is bad.

The information being spread out is inefficient for gathering quick data on what is happening in the match. Maybe it's easier for handheld devices like mobile or switch but on console when you are a distance away from your TV it is not helpful. Before the most important information was in the bottom corner of the screen, you could glance at it quickly to get multiple types of information - teammates, gens, item. Your item/addons were a good size where as now they are comically big compared to rest of UI that is, in my opinion, more important for information. The information being spread out also makes the screen cluttered and removes the any immersive feelings from the game.

Scoring events start at the top corner of the screen, again it is not good placement for something that is quickly popping on the screen. Before when scoring event popped up they were in a good location for your eyes to quickly see what happened. If multiple scoring events happen they also can quickly take up a portion of the now limited screen space.

The red on red for exhaustion or madness state is terrible. You have to really focus to see where it is, again this should be easy to quickly glance at for information.

It causes eye strain/head aches. I could only play several matches before I felt a head ache start to come on. The new HUD has your eyes constantly trying to focus in multiple directions at once, this causes your eyes to strain when you try to focus on other areas. When the HUD was neatly at the bottom the set up did not constantly cause your eyes to try focusing in multiple directions at once. While playing survivor I would actually look away from the screen any time I was doing an interaction to avoid the eye strain I had when trying to focus on skill checks or progress bar but my eyes kept involuntarily being pulled in multiple directions due to the HUD.

The new HUD blocks FOV. Character portraits block FOV on one side while multiple scoring updates can block the other side. If you adjust the HUD to be smaller to have larger FOV this will cause further eye strain trying to read the smaller icons/writing.

New HUD does not give information on teammates as well as the old one. On the old HUD it was much easier to tell if a teammate was being healed off the ground, being carried to a hook, or how much time they have left on second hook. While I appreciate knowing hook states and what character each player is playing the lack of information I previously received is very disappointing, especially as a solo player.

Please adjust the HUD to be primarily at the bottom of the screen rather than spread out as I think that will help with the eye strain/headaches it is currently causing. Adjust the exhaustion/madness status to one that is easier to quickly read. Also please make it easier to tell when another survivor is being healed from ground, being carried to hook, and how much time they have left on a hook as this information is very important in solo q.

ANIMATION

The walking, running, sneaking feel awkward - they don't feel as smooth as they did before. Running it looks and feels like when someone is doing a jog that's just a little bit faster than a walk, like you aren't actually moving that much faster. If injured it looks like my character keeps doing mini lunges like they are trying to do Dead Hard but can't fully do it. Crouching doesn't feel like I'm as hidden as I was before, I feel like I am much easier to see.

I'm not sure if it's the new animations but hits consistently look way off. Maybe the hit boxes changed due to the new animations but every time I was hit it looked like a bad hit with how far away I was from the killer.

***Edit: Since I've seen others mention platform/play time I'm on PS4 and not sure hours but whatever Devotion 10 Level 50 is.

New HUD is horrendous in my opinion. Everything is too spaced out, all over the place, and so large it obstructs the entire environment. Revert back to the old layout, but keep the updated icons and such (the new icons aren't really needed, but hey - devs like fixing what isn't broken I suppose.) Make the blood/timer bar brighter - it's now much more difficult to see and gauge how long survivors left until they take a dirt nap. Fix the issues with hit boxes and with pallets not pulling down. Fix what people have actually been commenting/complaining about... what a novel idea.

To put it bluntly, it's just not good overall.

Starting with the UI/HUD, some changes are definitely welcome such as hook counters and portraits to show who's who, but there are still some issues that I will bullet point.

• Info is too spread, making it feel claustrophobic in a bad way
• Much harder to tell at a glance what state your team mates are in
• Audio seems to have issues when someone becomes the obsession or gets hit/downed
• Much less personality in the design, feels very unoriginal

There is certainly more that can be listed, but this is enough to show that it was a mistake to change it this drastically.

It would have been much more welcomed if you guys kept the layout and overall design of the current HUD while making the new one (The screenshot from the first reply is a perfect example).

As for the animations, I have found everything but the basic standing pose is not too bad. If survivors hunched down more while idle, I imagine people would be happy enough.

Honestly, I've seen a lot of what I'm feeling here and I just really hope you guys actually listen to your players when we say WE DO NOT WANT THE NEW UI. I understand you guys spent all this time and money into developing this new UI but it's not good for the game, everything is scattered, information is all over the screen instead of in one space. It's not easy to track, the placement of things before was good, and with all things considered, I think having the ability to move the HUD to how we prefer it would be a good option, keep the new style icons but have things placed where they were before. I don't know how difficult or timely this option may be but I feel it would be a good alternative to just shoving this new UI down our throats. Don't drive people away.

The survivor look like robots.

I don’t think I could be more clear than that. It’s not only about how they look, but more about how it feels.

It now feels clunky, slow, and boring.

The feeling of playing survivor was very unique before, and honestly it should have been untouched to preserve the game’s identity. I am specifically talking about the running and running while injured animations.

Good Evening,

I’m hoping that players and devs will take notice to what I feel are common opinions amongst a large majority of the DBD community after the most recent patch update (4.5.0). It will be a mix of both positive and negative feedback.

The Positives:

• New smoother, aesthetically pleasing, and receptive skill check
• New flashlight animation change (added back the illumination upon successful blinding)
• Crouching while shining the flashlight
• New hatch entering animation
• New healing animation when picking up a downed survivor
• New Gideon Meat Packing visual updates (I haven’t played on Asylum yet)
• New score effects and status alert (moved to the right side of the screen for easier reference)

The Negatives:

• STATUS WIDGET POSITIONING AT THE TOP LEFT OF THE SCREEN FOR PLAYER NAMES, HEALTH STATES, AND HOOK COUNTS
• Why It’s Bad = valuable map sight is blocked in a crucial area of the screen. The bottom left of the screen now has a larger item and add-on visual, which is not crucial to have. Furthermore, the status widgets are more difficult to read the player names, and ESPECIALLY to judge the hook timers. Increasing the size of the widget just takes up more crucial map sight. I do like the new animations and graphics on the widgets, but most definitely not the placement and hook timer bar.
• OBJECTIVES MOVED TO THE TOP CENTER OF THE SCREEN
• Why It’s Bad = Again, more valuable and crucial map sight is obstructed. When you think of the status widgets, objectives, score events and status effects, items, it forces your eyes to criss-cross in all different directions... which survivors can’t afford to do when they have to be mindful of their surroundings and the killer.
• UPDATED SURVIVOR LOCOMOTION AND HITBOX REGISTRATION
• Why It’s The Death Of This Game = the past survivor locomotion had nothing wrong with it. Why fix what’s not broken? Besides that, the new turning locomotion is extremely stiff, less sensitive/sharp, and much easier for the killer to track movement (multiple killer main streamers have confirmed this: i.e. Otzdarva). The posing for survivors while standing now resembles a bodybuilder’s T pose (which is not very stealthy), and the injured running animation looks like a half-Naruto run (sorry for the jab lol). With DS receiving an exploitative nerf in the coming weeks, survivors can’t afford to have their locomotion nerfed in such a disadvantageous fashion. Lastly, if the easier to track movement wasn’t enough, the nail in the coffin is that it seems like every killer has a Freddy lunge now. The hit boxes extend out so much further, that it is extremely tough to anticípate when to bait as a survivor.

Conclusive Initial Reaction to the Patch Today

• After I played two matches, I didn’t even feel like playing another one because the survivor movements were so hindered, and the hitbox registration was so odd and frustrating. P.S. The POV upon being downed and hooked was also extremely low to the ground and skewed in an odd fashion.

While my negatives were a mix of fair points and a little bit of emotional frustration... I hope this review, the opinions, and suggestions are helpful in shifting the game towards the direction that Behavior is aiming to grow in. A happy community means more investment in the game. And more investment in the game leads to more money for Behavior, but more importantly... more enjoyment and support from it’s community. If it is any consolation... yes I do play killer as well around the red ranks (although I’m not that great :) )

Sincerely With Health and Well Wishes,

Smoxie7

Certified Ace Main (1000+ hours of gameplay)

The killer's total hook count tries to be a halfway point between no hook information and full hook information (either of which is fine IMO). Killers still need to count individual survivors' hooks in their head, making this icon little more than a distraction on the screen that flashes at you.

It was suggested I move this over here, so excuse the massive size!

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I took a long break from DBD, only to come back and see the change to the UI. To say I was surprised at the change to what was generally considered an organized UI layout would be an understatement. Of course, at the time I saw it, it was still exclusive to the PTB.

Welp. It's here now.

So, let's take a look at it and break it down; why it fails to convey information in a consumable manner, how it ruins gameplay and how it is deterring to new and old players alike. I'm currently taking a Visual Design analysis course in college that focuses on how certain aspects of a UI, site layout, or applications are chosen and used, and I'd like to take a crack at this one. Just a heads up that this is going to be a looongggg post, so you might want to grab a drink or two.

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OVERVIEW

With as much talk as there is about this layout, I'm sure we've all seen it before. But, if you happen to have not, here it is:

What you're looking at is the new layout for gameplay, and what many would consider a visual disaster. As you can see, information is spread out and spaced throughout the screen, requiring you to divert your attention to various different corners of the screen and get a glimpse of the information, all the while sacrificing your ability to focus on the center of the screen- aka, where all of the vital game action is taking place.

But WHY is it a UI failure? And would it be considered as such in a game other than DbD?

If this was an RPG, then this UI would be far less atrocious. RPGs typically feature a layout quite similar to this one, as many often spread their information across the screen to better organize their multiple currencies, settings, options, and inventories.

The problem is that Dead by Daylight is not an RPG. It's a horror game, one where quick reaction time and important visual cues take up the majority of the gameplay and dictate how that particular session will run. What this UI does is scatter this information in a format that harms the players, as it takes away from the momentum and the precious seconds you have to make a decision. We shouldn't have to look in 4 different places to take in information that was previously available to us in 2, ESPECIALLY in a game where we're probably being chased and should be focusing our attention on the center of the screen to avoid being caught.

When it comes to designing a layout for a game, one needs to consider what the players will be doing during their gameplay session, and how to make information accessible and easily consumed. You WILL be running from the enemy in DbD, and you will be on a time crunch. Unless you're a Blendette waiting for the hatch, you don't have the luxury of taking your sweet, sweet time and glancing around every inch of your screen to just be informed about gameplay matters. You think quickly. You take in information. You make a decision. You commit. To be able to make those decisions, you need information that is just as quickly accessible; and the prior UI fulfilled this role by having everything neatly packed into two corners that do not obstruct the remainder of the screen and can easily be glanced at, even if the killer was right behind you. With one look, you knew everything- how many gens were done, the status of your fellow players, and your item charges.

It is this lack of awareness when it came to designing the UI that makes it a failure in the context of Dead by Daylight and its gameplay. This UI does everything in its power to be inconvenient to a player who is booking it and trying to look behind them to ensure their survival. Nearly every corner of the screen is obstructed in some way, detracting from important visual information and making it all the more difficult to think on the spot and make informed decisions.

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VISUAL STIMULI

When playing a game, it needs to be taken into consideration that there will be a lot of things going on at once, and this can be confusing for the unprepared. To balance this, many developers make their UI smaller or centralized, to ensure that it doesn't add to the confusion.

So what happens when the UI DOES contribute to this confusion, and actively becomes an obstacle to gameplay?

Well, you get visual disorientation or overstimulation.

As a survivor in Dead by Daylight, you need to be quick on your feet and actively avoiding danger. You cannot be doing this efficiently when you're distracted and making sloppy mistakes as a result of being hampered by a UI that is obstructing your vision. This applies to killers as well; one wrong move and you've lost the survivor you were chasing, or you've wasted precious time on a loop because you were distracted by the visual layout.

"But I'm not someone who's easily distracted!"

Perhaps you aren't; but when your heart is pounding and you're thinking of every possible way to escape, considering possible vaults, looking for palettes, etc., it's easy to get tripped up by information irrelevant to your circumstances. And one mistake is all you need to be on the hook.

Another thing I want to touch on is empty space.

When it comes to design, a very important principle that needs to be considered is the principle of "empty space", or a place to rest the eyes. This even applies to decorating a room, as having posters or portraits in every area can be visually distracting and cause headaches. In games, this principle is INCREDIBLY important, because granting the player space where they can expect less visual information and think more clearly allows for more informed decision making or simply escape the various things happening on the screen, should they so choose. Having too much clutter will absolutely give people a headache.

In the new UI, there is one singular space where a player can look too should their eyes need a small break, and that is the top right corner of the screen. Every other area is covered. What makes this worse is that the top right of the screen is often where players will look to peek corners and keep an eye out for the killer, or vice versa. While it's good that it isn't an obstructed place, it is developmentally a poor choice because the one area a player can go to rest their eyes is one of the highest areas of visual traffic in a chase.

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"MADE TO WORK AGAINST YOU"

One of the saving graces of getting into this game back when I first started playing was simply how easy it was to get all the information I needed in a match.

Needed to see how many gens were done? A quick glance and I knew immediately, along with also seeing how everyone else was doing. Effortless. Two pieces of incredibly relevant information sat side by side and even benefitted each other. If you happened to not be paying attention to the gens but got the notification a survivor was down, your glance to see who got the hit not only gave you the answer but now you also know how many gens are done and can plan accordingly. The same goes for the opposite as well.

But now, you need to look everywhere and go on a hunt just to find something that would have previously taken you a second.

Need to see who's down and out? Sure, just look at the top left corner of the screen, away from everything important, just to have to look down and scour through the names. And to be completely honest, the icons for the survivors were just fine- easy to take in and conveyed the message well. We honestly didn't need more visual information to take in, and maybe it's just me, but the mystery and fun of seeing who you were playing with was one of the smaller but just as impactful appeals.

The icons are distracting and do nothing but add more to an already cluttered screen. But then you have to look across the entire screen to see your perks. Previously, they were just fine, as they complimented the layout well. Now they're so far removed from everything else it's a hassle to check on them AND everything else.

So what am I getting at here?

Well, imagine you're a new player, and you just got into your first game. You're probably going to have a slower reaction time and might not make the best decisions, and you'll no doubt be taking information in at a slower pace. It's like driving a car for the first time.

But any new player is going to have one hell of a time trying to navigate this UI. With their already poor reaction time and lack of game awareness, the learning curve for them is going to be exponentially harder in a game that already infuriates many.

Just like that, a new player is deterred from the game.

Because who wants to learn a game that seems to be made to work against you?

Older players have decided to take the hit and leave as well, as the UI is nothing but a new and completely unnecessary obstacle to playing a game that already angers and frustrates its player base.

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CLAUSTROPHOBIA

We've taken a look at the UI as a whole and how it fails to convey relevant information in a game like DbD, but I want to take a glance at each change in particular and see how they work in conjunction with each other.

Firstly, the perk wheel.

The perk wheel remains where it has always been, in the bottom right corner of the screen. This is a good thing, as this most certainly did not need changing. So if the fact it remains in the same place is good, why do I still consider this another reason why the UI is bad?

While the placement was not originally bad, the failure of this UI design as a whole is amplified by the fact that since everything is now separated, information is no longer as easily accessible. I would consider the perk wheel a victim of these, rather than a perpetrator. As I said before, it is so far removed from everything else that it in and of itself becomes an obstacle, because it is now a hassle to look at simply because everything ELSE is a hassle to look at. However, since the perk wheel is not a bad design choice and remains the same, that is all I will say about it.

Next, let's look at the items.

Why are your item charges so isolated from everything else? Items are certainly important, but the simplicity of the icons and the strange placement of them make that entire corner feel imbalanced and awkward, especially since something more visually relevant could be taking up that space, such as the survivor layout. You shouldn't have to make the trip to the bottom corner of the screen just to look at one thing. The items fit perfectly in the old UI and didn't take up space, but were still easily viewable. Now they're just needlessly taking up more space and contributing to the problem.

The survivor line is horrendous.

I already spoke about the icons, but there is absolutely no reason they should have moved, and be put into a vertical format, no less. Vertical formats slow down the consumption of information in games like this, as they are obstacles to quick viewing due to their requirement to "scan" the information by looking down the row. In the previous horizontal layout, one need not look for long to gt the gist of the survivor status. The white icons were simple and easily blocked out, but conveyed information just fine. And since you were looking left and right anyway since all of the information was on the bottom, it was easy to take it all in. The way the new UI leads your eye around the screen may have been beneficial to an art piece, but to a video game? Absolutely not. The names of the survivors also sticking out and infiltrating the rest of the space is also a poor choice, though it is admittedly better than if they had gone with the vertical design and put the names below the icons. Again, all of which could have been avoided if a better design choice was made.

Lastly, generators.

Why exactly are they so isolated as well? What was the reason for moving the MAIN OBJECTIVE away from literally all other information? I will give it to the devs, the generator count is one of the easier things to look out for in this layout, but the distance between it and everything else is quite unnecessary and destroys all potential synergy in the UI layout.

The result of these strange and odd placements is a UI that surrounds the player in suffocatingly inaccessible information that creates a feeling of claustrophobia. You can't escape the clutter, but you can't use it efficiently either.

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PROPOSED CHANGES

I only want for this game to succeed, and while I doubt many will have gone through the trouble of reading this, if a dev happens to stumble upon this thread and read this, I want there to at least be a section of proposed changes, rather than a huge wall of text that is mostly complaints.

If the UI is to stay, at least move the generator section down into the bottom middle of the screen.

Doing this would help fix the strange feeling of distance between the primary objective and any other game information by at least making it easier to take in the perks, the gens, and the item all at once. Granted, it most certainly won't fix the clutter, however, it will at least make it easier to scan the bottom of the screen and will also open up some free space to the player and give them another place to rest their eyes.

Keep everything, but return to the old survivor layout.

Can you tell I feel strongly about this?

If you're so dead set on keeping the generators in the top and the item in the bottom corner, then at least return the survivor layout to a horizontal format. Hell, I don't care if you leave the icons. Just make them more accessible. You could then put the items on the top of the row, similar to the old layout, and boom! Suddenly information is WAY more accessible and the UI is not nearly as daunting.

Return to the original, or add a toggle option.

This UI feels like we're playing a mobile game. All it's missing are some ads and a thumbstick.

Very few people advocated for this change, and a wide majority are against this UI design. It certainly won't hurt if the design simply reverted to the original, or better yet- why not have a toggle option, where one could choose which one they preferred?

Both sides can be satisfied in that regard. Players who enjoy the original UI can toggle the "Legacy UI", and those who enjoy the newer layout can toggle the "Default UI". Money and time won't have been lost on designing a new UI, and it will no longer force older players away who do not wish to play with it.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

The new UI is certainly interesting, but nothing but detrimental to the game genre it was placed in. It discourages quick thinking, holds information literally above the player's head, and creates a box of inaccessibility from which the player cannot escape from.

I'm in shock at the design choices made and how they're meant to reflect the gameplay of the game, however, I also understand the difficulty of creating a game and a UI for that property. UI design is hard. Visual design is hard, and multiple things must be taken into consideration for a UI to work. I can only hope that moving forward, better decisions are made in regards to player accessibility.

If anyone wishes to contest any of the points I made, suggest their own changes, or simply state how they feel, please go ahead. I'd love to hear how everyone else is dealing with the UI and if any suggestions to this post are to be made. I'm also interested in hearing if anyone is actually a proponent for this change, and what they feel succeeds in this new design.

TDLR; The new design obstructs the game and makes information inaccessible and difficult to consume, resulting in disorientation, player dissatisfaction and vital gameplay mistakes. The UI is an obstacle to gameplay that harms the health of the game and was a completely unnecessary change.

Please keep the feedback informative. Remember that the mods who run this forum are not necessarily the same people making the decisions we're upset about.

Was feedback ignored on these forums? Yes

Are they making an effort to sticky and consolidate our feedback now? Yes, so let's try to work with them rather than against.

As ######### as the situation is, no dev is going to purposefully make their game worse.

The new UI is really distracting to the eyes and when looking around for the killer, it's hard to focus on them when all the icons and everything are surrounded all around the screen, to change or make this better add

• A feature that allows us to turn off the UI HUD back to its original version
• To rearrange everything to the same position as before to minimise confusion and distractions on the screen to ensure that you can focus on the killer instead of everything surrounding the screen
• Remake the original HUD but add the new features that was implemented before like who the survivor is and the number of hooks still left on that specific survivor

Keep in my mind we did not ask for the HUD changes, it was not necessary to change them.

Regarding the new survivor animations

The survivor animations are very chunky and it's very hard to move in a smooth like fashion, with the old animations it was smooth and easy to move quickly. With the new ones however it feels like you're running in cement, you simply do not seem fast from your pov, if anything it feels alot slower therfore I must add that simple looping is very bad too, when the killer mind games and you turn to go the other way, you are stuck briefly for a second and that could guarantee the killer to catch up a bit to you and down and with the way hit boxes are that's been happening alot frequently since the new update has come out.

Please do not get me wrong, you have done alot of amazing things for dbd in the past, with the cosmetics, charms etc. But this update my far has to be the worst I'm afraid, I've played dbd for 4+ years and of all the updates I've come across this has well and truly displeased and making me seriously question my time played on this amazing game you have created

Please listen to mine and everyone feedback on the situation we don't want the game to die. Please take all of our feedback into consideration.

Thank you

One Pump Willie here, 2800 hours plus.

When the last generator is powered, at the top, it says: "Stop survivors from escaping". Bruh. Ive been trying to do that me whole life, please take that extraneous text off my screen. As if a killer needs to know they needed to kill the survivors. You guys just tried way too hard this patch and overcomplicated so many things.

A hud is supposed to be simple and elegant. Not distracting and covering up as much as possible. If i wanted to know my obsession I'd hit escape to see their name. I like the ability to make the hud smaller, but in doing so it makes skill checks smaller. Skill checks shouldn't be included in the hud, thats an important part of the game people NEED to see in order to hit. The images of survivors make it sooo hard to focus and see who is injured, and the timer of the hook is sooo small now.

The old layout was fine. And why let survivors see how many hook states each person has but not the killer? If anything the killer should have that information. The hook counter for killer is extraneous. The old animations were fine. When a survivor was injured they used to limp; I like that. Now they look like a clunky version of charolettes walk. When a survivor stops running suddenly with momentum, their arms fling out forward, very strange animation, who cant control their arms irl? When downed they now look like they tripped over a lego. Hits dont connect the way they used to and people get downed through pallets.

I like the map updates, but too much trash was added making it hard to move, and often you get stuck on debris. The killers also look a lot nicer, and I love how the glass in spirit is reflective now. The clown buff is also sick, as is the wraith buff. The perk changes were all good. There were a lot of great additions in this patch- minus the hud and the new survivor animations. Please consider reverting to the old hud and animations. Thanks for listening.

I play on PC and have a large monitor, and the new UI feels jarring to have every separate piece of information I need spread out across the screen. The original UI was great in the placements of its information. The entire bottom left corner now is dedicated to the usage of your item? Blood point pop-ups briefly appear at the top right? It just feels so strange uncomfortable.

It would be great if we had the option to choose between the two UIs, or the ability to modify the placements of specific HUD modules.