who is the worst killer now that clown has been partially buffed?

Wraith. Weak base power and addon dependant. Also Pig and The Legion.

I'll say Wraith cuz at least Clown can end chases faster basekit, with Wraith u pretty much have 1 slot for add-ons since without Windstorm he is pretty trash. Even without addons any killer perfoms better than hin (even trapper)

Never needed exhaustion bottles, and cigar box was useless before. Yellow bottles are actually extremely useful in some situations.

Still 15% base still 20% with bleach. Bleach and chloroform are his strongest addons for him. They are talking about how survivors can go through the yellow cloud. Which if you know how to use the yellows right it won't happen.

Oh I thought you meant they nerfed his purple bottles which I was going to say I didn’t notice a difference since I play him a decent amount.

The yellow bottles are not terrible, there’s some loops where you gas yourself on one side and throw slowing gas at the other and it basically instantly forces the pallet drop; in addition to some neat tricks you can do with it when approaching gens.

That pretty much shows one of the best uses for it I think. He also combines it with agitation for some ridiculously long basement hooks. Last I checked this guy was like #2 on the DBD leaderboard for most survivors downed while intoxicated, he plays a metric ton of clown.

Clown

Still clown. The buff did nothing for him.

Relatable

at topic:

was Clown really THE worst killer? I still think it’s up to the player, there were people that played Clown super well but couldn’t perform good with ‚ez to play‘ high tier killers like Spirit..

Still Clown, Legion, or Trapper.

Clown's changes werent substantial enough to take him out of trash tier.

If we're talking no addons.

Trapper, Wraith, Clown and Plague are all pretty in the dumpster. Honorable mention for Pig.

With normal addons I'd probably put Clown and Plague the lowest. Trapper still coming in close with Pig.

Honestly with or without addons we're still picking the best looking trash out of the garbage, they're all bad. Exception being Wraith, Wraith actually gets pretty decent with addons.

Pig. Too RNG based even with add-ons. Her kill rate is inflated by bad Survivors not understanding how her traps work.

funny how she has one of the highest kill rates at rank 1 in the game

The Pigg.

Wraith, Trapper, Pig, and Clown are whom I consider the weak bunch.

Wraith's power literally does nothing to help him down survivors. He is still visible even with his recent change, you can also still hear him, and he still has to uncloak before he can hit you. Trapper requires far too much set up. Fetch, carry, set traps. All the while hoping that no survivor spotted you setting them, and simply hoping they fall for them. Its hard to come up with unique trap placements nowadays against half way decent survivors. Pig is entirely based on luck/RNG. Survivors can get their trap off on the first box they go to and boom you've just lost your pressure. Clown's recent change has not made any significant difference. The antidote is a gimmick. The best thing they changed was his faster reload, but that is not anything game changing for him.

Bad players exist at every rank. Against a proper SWF she is powerless. Bad Survivors make her seem good.

Definitely Trapper. Not only does he have to spend pretty much half the game wasting time chasing his power all over the map, he has to think of good uses for them on the fly, if he doesn't have a bag add on this is even worse, his add ons no longer make traps hard to see because of the map changes, and they made it so you are basically garunteed to get out of his trap in 4-6 attempts, which sure is at least a good 10-12 seconds, but that's about as useful as victor trapping a survivor in a closet from across the map, and if survivors know you're trapper, good ones will just keep together to rush gens while you're setting up to bust out gens, then if one gets caught in a trap the other survivor is close by to help.

Just way to many way to neutralize him. At least Pig can ######### with folks heads slot more with her power, and it is a semi effective time slow on top. Trapper just kinda sucks.

Also Plague is kinda bad, but at least with add ons she can typically be a monster. Trappers best add ons just make him a little less inconvenient to play.

Gonna start off by saying I love the new Clown, antidotes been helping me get some faster downs. I've considered him to be a weak B tier killer atm, but I'm leaning towards a C+.

I would have said Wraith but he has a lot of things going for him, like tricking survivors in loops for example. Wraith recently got buffed as well, and even if it's not much, it makes him true stealthy, so I'm gonna have to say Legion and Pig being in the same ladder.

While Legion does sorta have an instadown ability, you aren't always going to get all survivors injured at once. Survivors that know what they're doing will only heal each other at an appropriate time. Running Forced Penance does fix this, but survivors will split up against Legion if they're smart. HOWEVER, Also, you won't be downing anyone with your power, so you're pretty much a basic M1 killer.

If Pig didn't have her dash attack then she would be worse than Legion, but for now it's her saving grace that makes her just as good as Legion or even a bit better. The dash attack is what saves her honestly, as it can counter loops sometimes (smart survivors will just run away when she does that, though you can also fake the ambush) and can be really useful for STBFL, but then again STBFL dodging usually only works in the open, otherwise a window or pallet will screw you over. She does make a lot of use for RBTs though, forcing the survivors to waste their time on getting the trap off of their heads, which gives you time to ambush on other survivors, but she's too RNG dependent. At least Trapper has the ability to satisfy you if you end up trapping someone far away, plus the ability to instadown survivors with Trapper and block pallets and windows and all that stuff.

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