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How do people play nurse and not flip their desk
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This event has got me playing Nurse and my lord I don't think it's ever made me hate the game more haha.
Terrain like randomly doesn't let you blink to the other side of it no matter the blink charge, you swing at survivors and your attacks just phased right through their heads. It feels borderline impossible.
I don't have the best perks sure, but man when you can't do much to stop gens the match is over in like 5 minutes or less. Mad respect for the people that are able to pull this off, I can't get more than maybe one kill a game if I tunnel a little bit out of necessity that's about it.
This is easily the hardest thing I've ever tried to do in the 4 years of playing this game. I always avoided Nurse and she is kinda fun but jfc this literally has me wanting to just never play again.
Dead hard means you have to hit everyone essentially 3 times, it's so easy to break LOS and just drop a chase and heal, and EVERYTHING sucks you into the basement if you blink so much as within its vicinity.
Of course the hardest thing to play in this game has to come with the lovely fact that if you are a rank 1 killer you are expected to be just as good as every single killer, in one of the singlest most ridiculous ideas for matchmaking anyone has ever gone with.
I've gone through 10 lunar tokens so far, and gotten almost no blood points from them because I can't down like anyone; meanwhile 4 lunar toolboxes sure blast through gens real quick.
Alright, just venting, pay no mind if you're reading this with some serious/judgemental voice in your head, better to just ignore it.
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the "good" ones are all using stretched res and have the brightest screens they can make using the nvidia filter.
Basically good ones are cheating and average / bad ones are not.
I was looking for nurse gameplay on twitch to see if anyone else was having the issues you describe (hits just phasing through survivors or the lunge just follows them at the same speed) and all the ones i found had stretched res and bright colours with gamma turned up.
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Honestly, a lot of the times you think you got a bugged blink, you were actually just very, very slightly off. Keeping that in mind definitely helps, because it gives you something to be better at instead of something to fixate over. I've always found that focusing on what I can control really, really helps me keep calm and having fun.
That being said, some of the maps are broken, blinks do get genuinely bugged, and she does get more than a little screwed over by the aiming mechanics and, to a large extent, exhaustion perks. However, for the most part these things really don't do anything beyond mildly annoy me because she's just so damn strong and, after you put in the practice (on PC at least) kind of easy, that I just down them in the next set of blinks anyway. Or the set after that if they used BL/SB/Lithe.
In fact I actually don't like playing Nurse because, well, I've been playing Nurse for years and I find her to be a little crazy op. Not that I'm trying to take away from anyone's accomplishments, she is definitely hard as anything to learn, it's just that you reach a point where you just autopilot the significant majority of trials.
That being said, it's well worth learning her even if only to have an extremely strong killed up your sleeve, and to be perfectly honest you don't need to master her at all. Practice your blinks, understand how to read and chase survivors, and you'll absolutely devestate most teams, especially if you run a slowdown perk or two. Or Infectious Fright, because nothing slows the trial down more than a couple of slugs. I would also suggest not using Shadowborn, because as nice as it is it is stupidly addictive and you don't actually need it.
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Nurse was easy to play before dedicated servers. Since you were the server there was no lag, so it was easy to time your blinks. Ever since Dedicated Servers I stopped playing Nurse because the latency makes me window to blink a tiny split second before I go into fatigue. So I don't nurse anymore because my connection to DBD's servers sucks, and I intend to leave the killer tome alone for that reason.
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This is true of all killers, which is disgusting really but what can you do. It's why stealht doesn't work, because all the sweaty killers are playing at zero detail, stretched rez, uber bright, etc. I even play the game dark at high detail because I like the mood of it. BHVR been making all the maps too bright it's annoying.
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yeah, but nurse gets an extra benefit from it since it essentially eliminates the darkened borders of the screen when she blinks.
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Well tbf it's not a killer-only thing.
I watched some old vids on YT and monto and friends (other dbd streamers like noob3) were playing vs each other (in I think on of those drinking or charity streams) and one of the five was using brightness and stretched res. It was so obviously different from the other 4 that it was disgusting to watch on those settings while monto for example had a normal atmosphere going.
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Maybe, but to be fair if the weapon model physically swings through your body, that should be a hit imo. If I swing at the space behind them however it often tends to hit even though I physically miss; I played nurse before a teeny bit and it definitely did not do this before the update.
You are so right about Shadowborn though, but honestly I know it isn't helping me at all but it's so nice not feeling so damn sluggish. I wish they could do something to her to make her feel less sluggish like that; without changing her balance in any way. I don't know how, but it would make her a lot less frustrating to play. You need that perk slot; but also not feeling like a wet sandbag sure would be nice.
Infectious fright I dunno; I find it really really hard to get value out of that. I can see it being REALLY good if I was really good, but if you are not then you don't get value out of it because they break the LOS while you are in initial fatigue and disappear into the ether.
Doing this once in a while sure feels great though lol:
Unfortunately anytime I do it's by accident.
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I used to play her a bit here and there. I was never a pro but I could handle myself. Tried her yesterday and yeah I was struggling to get through objects too. Maybe its rust or maybe they broke something who knows but I had full charge for blinks that should have taken me well beyond rocks on macmillan and yet I could never get through them.
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Something is definitely off about nurse's blink this patch as I have blinked into the sky(Before falling back down) when I tried to blink onto the hills ormond to try to down a survivor on them.
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Trust me, it's about 100x worse on Console.
Nurse legitimately makes me motion sick AND she sucks to play on 20 FPS.
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But the dev's optimized the game by waiting for updated consoles to come out. Don't you have a ps5?
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No. I'm afraid I simply don't have $500+ to spend on a new Console when I should be able to play the game on my One X just fine.
Plus, that doesn't fix the fact that I would need to take dramamine to play her.
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I think he was being facetious and just mocking bhvr.
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I know.
I just didn't feel like coming up with a witty response lmao
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Bhvr didn't feel like coming up with a response either. Hah.
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I have a launch ps4 and see no difference from release to now.
This being said i play on pc over 100 fps so anything 30 and under is clear as day to me (ps4 is clearly in the 20's or less)
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You right
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Nurse isn't called the most difficult killer for no reason. I got absolutely destroyed my first 7-8 games with her. However, I guess I'm also one of the lucky people who has less than 7 hours with Nurse and can still do fairly decent at red ranks.
Once you get the distance down, she becomes fairly easy to play against most survivors. The ones that actually use los blocks and are super difficult to read are the ones to watch out for. Outside of corn maps, I find Midwich to be the most frustrating because there are some things you just can't blink through.
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For sure and when she fatigues she can see around her easier. But I mean every sweaty killer uses visual hacks to get a huge advantage in tracking and finding survivors. I remember tow years ago there were lots of threads teaching killers to use Low Detail and ini edits and GPU settings to get a huge visual advantage.
There was even a screenshot of a game that looked like it barely had any textures and looked more cel-shaded, super easy to see everything.
I get that some survivors do this too but it's more beneficial for killers in general because tracking is important to killers.
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Oh, blink grabs are ssssssoooooooo nice to pull off. I can only reliably do it at pallets, and only if I read the survivor correctly. You have to get them to drop the pallet then blink through during the animation, they panic vault back, and if you then blink back to the first side and m1 you usually get a throat grab. Which is just something to do to show off because it's probably better to take the hit and not use the second blink.
It's also not that hard once you've accidentally done it in your own little panic moment, that's literally how I learned it :)
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I am still having a lot of trouble not hitting terrain as well. I am used to killers where you can turn and aim their swing but nurse seems to "lock in" on where you looked last.
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Survivors sure like to t-bag nurse a lot. I've never gotten this much BM from survivors as literally any other killer. Makes me just want to jump back onto one of my mains and just stomp them into the earth. Hard to BM if you're on the ground lol.
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yep.
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Played her on different maps : Lery's, Swamp, Macmillan, Autohaven and Coldwin.
I use : BBQ + Stridor (never knew how strong it was, i mean i could hear injured survivors at least 16m away from me like they were next to me) + Nurse's Calling + Shadowborn
I had the hardest time on Swamp because of the huge objects ( little boats ) you can't get throught without charging more than you think you should. During those games i had, like you, hit that should have hit or autoaim hitting the border of an object instead of the survivor.
- But If you really only use your second blink when needed and you don't swing when you know you won't hit, you recover fast enough to blink on their back and catch up again ;)
- Also since you have Nurse's, don't be afraid of changing target, get a hit and go back to a survivor healing. This way you pressure 2 survivors instead of 1, she is the Queen at making survivors never feeling safe even out of chase !
- I also noticed that it's also ok to not blink all the times. I couldn't count how many times survivors ran back to me or Dead Harded even before i blinked coz they thought i would. Even if she is slow she is still faster than survivors.
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It's real bad trying to hit someone on a generator as well. I used to be able to, but now since the update it's just a lot of this:
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What the gens look like to us:
What DBD sees:
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It's the frustration as well knowing you could be doing so much better and you aren't reaching your full potential.
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I mastered nurse a little over four months ago and I went from rank 1 to rank 8 before I even started to grasp her. That doesn't include any rank reset. I’m now a perk less and add on less nurse sitting in rank 1-2 winning at least 90% of my games, because survivors are very predictable when you’ve been outplayed the same move over 100 times.
My advice, watch tofu video on how to play nurse. It helped me tremendously! After that endure the pain of t bags, clicking lights, after chat abuse and little to no deaths and keep going. Eventually it will click how to play her and you will win, you will keep winning and all those miserable games will be a distant memory.
finally, thank you for posting. This reminded me how I felt starting out as nurse and it’s nice to see I wasn’t alone 😀
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See that's all well and good, but I don't get to play a whole lot. I don't know if I have that kind of time. We'll see though.
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Every Nurse player has gone through months of desk flipping, Nurse giveth and Nurse taketh.
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they have nerfed her more since that guide. his lunges are faster/longer.
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I'm almost never use addons on the nurse. I just got used to the teleportation, I know how much time I need to hold M2 to get to the location I want to go...
It's like I became the nurse myself lmao
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I would start learning when to hold it with range addons then. So you have an advantage on top of everything else when you chose to use it.
No reason to stop growing.
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That is me.
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I love how some people in this forum (who are just the classic entlited surv mains) downgrade good nurse players to "oh he use stretch or brightens the game".
First of all, stretched give LESS POV than shadowborn and guess what? Most nurse players use shadowborn.
Second: Brightness isn't that usefull if you play on low graphics (wich 90% of the players do since dbd is poorly optimized in every platform).
Third: Stretched ISN'T HACKING, stop just propagating what you favorite streamer says, if it were hacking all tourns would be a paradise for BHVR slam the ban hammer.
Fourth: not all nurse players use either stretched or brightness, if you only know Alf (who use it 'cause he plays in comps) don't assume that everyone is using (all comp players use stretched btw).
And final: if you're so upset and think that stretching gives so unfair advantage (less pov than shadowborn or even M&A), do it yourself, go on, just stop reducing a good nurse player to "he use stretched) 'cause you really don't know what a good nurse means (btw, try her, even with stretched, slap a shadowborn for even more POV, and let's see how you fare with her).
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They'll do it a lot, they think they're so good at "juking" a baby nurse that they'll t-bag a lot. It's stops when you get them in the dying state with 3-4 blinks tho' .
It takes time and a lot of frustration but you get there.
Use flannel to learn blink distances and deadzones, when you're subconsciously blinking where you want to (without seeing the flannel indication) you take it off and go for double recharge, so you can blink more frequently.
After you learn how to do every single blink and get behind most survivors 90% you can start messing with range add-ons (they screw up your muscle memory but when you're accostumed to normal range you quickly get your ######### togheter).
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I've been complaining about Nurse bugs since her rework. Welcome to my world.
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Every Nurse player goes through it. The benefit to mastering her is not needing perks or add ons to 4k every game on every map at rank 1. She takes a lot of time. It's different for everyone.
As for autoaims....it's really bad on Nurse. The game will almost never "favor the shooter" in the case of Nurse. You have to leave no room for interpretation because the game will gleefully autolock onto the nearest inanimate object.
A lot of Nurse players play on stretched. And a lot play on native res such as myself. You don't need stretched res to be good. Competitive/tournament Nurse players often use stretched because those survivors are using it too. It's less about gaining an advantage and more about leveling the playing field. But one size doesn't fit all on stretched. 1600x1080 is very different than 1080x1080. Also, DbD runs like absolute garbage and changing the res often increases performance.
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Just expect a lot of matches to be frustrating as you get the blink timings down. Honestly though it didn't take me long to get to a point with her where chases are quicker with her than any other Killer. At that point I find her not much more stressful than playing any Killer.
Although I guess there's always moments on maps I'm still learning what you can and can't blink through which will be annoying, but just because I have the map pressure of a Nurse, I'll already probably be less angry than I would be if I was playing that same game with Oni, for example.
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i don't know about anyone else but this is how i can put up with Nurse
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And now with this Desync BS Nurse is one of the most affected killers (as it always has been) since her blink power messes up with her position in the map, so the desync works both ways with her (you won't get some clearly connected hits but will get some nasty pokos) I really don't recommend using her untill the desync is fixed unless you're somewhat decent with her right now, 'cause it's really frustrating to play her in these conditions.
Also: all autoheaven maps are actual ######### RN, they'll swallow you blinks hard and the the "phantom" hits (where you connect but the game says "######### no") are a constant in these maps, good job BHVR.
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I Made a post about my experience the other day that is pretty much this.
Im convinced you have to be a masochist to enjoy her.
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When you play for 1000 hours you start to just know what you can and can't blink through.
The thing that is really getting me this patch is the desync. It sucks on survivor side, but also sucks as a nurse because there are many hits where before i would have gotten them, but now i just swing through them.
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Just watched OTZ attempt 50 "wins" with nurse and he only made it to 9. You could tell he was stressed out, and even he was getting dodgy miss hits and blinks that go nowhere.
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Yeah all good nurse players are cheaters, totally can't be that there are just good players out there.
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Nurse actually takes time to learn and takes a fair bit of skill and mechanics. Near enough everything else in this game has pretty much no mechanics at all to master, it’s all very easy, nearly everything is just based on decision making rather than your actual mechanical skill.
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No judgment from me. Nurse is hard asf. Everytime I encounter a really good Nurse (which is rare) I can only marvel at their skill.
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It's good that others play Nurse now because of tome and can see all bugs Nurse have. Because the people that normally play Nurse is totally ignored by devs when speaking of Nurses bugs.
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I was expecting post like this.
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Tried nurse once, a year ago, and never touched her again. I prefer the relaxed play style of being a bush in solo queue.
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