Top 5 Useless Perks

Deer stalker is great for slug builds.

This is not happening is trash.

Premonition is not terrible, but why would one equip that when spine chill exists?

5.Furtive Chase. Seriously. WTH is the point of a smaller TR "during" a chase? They already know your there.

1. Babysitter - the concept is cool, I think a buff on numbers (10-20 secs) might be enough. Maybe also adding no injured sounds to the unhooked survivors.
2. Furtive Chase - the stacks of this perk are so damn useless it hurts, and they go away if the obsession gets killed. Something that still keeps the theme but is a bit more powerful is reducing the red stain each stack.
3. Vigil - now that it doesn't affect mangled it's even worse, only works in conjunction with other exhaustion perks and even then it's pretty bad. Not sure how I'd buff this one tho.
4. Autodidact - Fun but backfires more often than not. Just a QoL that guarantees at least a skill check per heal would be enough.
5. Buckle Up - I'm convinced that getting value of this perk is physically impossible. I would make it like a kindred but for slugged people.

There's many more but those are my top 5.

30 seconds can be enough time to get up assuming the killer is preoccupied and correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there an addon to increase sabo duration?

All of Huntress' perks, Up the ante, Lucky Break, Camaraderie, Streetwise

Poised is luck-based but solid, actually. Run Poised, Dark Sense, Adrenaline, and Distortion and get back to me - I love it! Deerstalker isn't bad either, even though slugging builds are weaker now than they once were. I can see running it in a snowball build with things like Infectious Fright.

My top 5 in no particular order:

• No Mither - It should either lean into its "challenge perk" side and grant bonus BP in exchange for the high risk of using it, or it needs to offer a high reward to go with its high risk (e.g. buffing the user's speed by 1%/2%/3%). If not, I think it needs a full rework.
• Monstrous Shrine - Agreed, it's useless. It's also hard to buff because I don't think meaningfully buffing the basement game is something that would be healthy for the game. With that said, I heard an idea from someone that Monstrous Shrine could cause a second basement to spawn on any maps that have two basement spawn locations. It feels more like an offering effect than a perk effect, but I still think that could be cool.
• Up the Ante - It is only usable in SWF in a Up the Ante / Slippery Meat / Salty Lips stack. Otherwise it's absolutely terrible. I would like to see luck reworked to also affect the rarity of items in chests. That wouldn't make this perk good, but it would be a lot less terrible. It's hard thinking of other uses for luck that wouldn't be controversial, but I could see things like giving you a chance at preventing the loud noise notification when missing a skill check, giving you a chance at a fast vault when you'd typically get a medium vault, etc.
• Predator - Spawning scratch marks closer together is actually a bad thing in most situations because it can prevent them from showing up on walls and such, and thereby make survivors more stealthy. I've found it useful as a Nurse in the corn, but there are precious few situations where it actually helps. I'd rework it to make it a reverse Lightweight. Instead of affecting the grouping of scratch marks it would make scratch marks persist in the environment for longer.
• Unrelenting - You should almost never be missing hits in the first place, and even if you do, a 30% cooldown is honestly not that useful! The default missed basic attack cooldown is only 1.5 seconds, so reducing that cooldown by 30% only saves .45 seconds. If the survivor holds W away (which they probably won't, since they were probably juking all over the place if you missed an attack) they'd only make .77m in .45 seconds on a 115% killer; killer movement speed is cut in half while cooling down from a missed attack, so .45s * (4.0m/s-(4.6m/s / 2) = .765m. A killer would make up that extra distance in .765m/(4.6m/s-4m/s) = 1.28s. That is absolutely nothing. In extremely rare cases it might be the difference between a survivor making it to a pallet and not, but that should almost never happen given that 1) it's a small amount of time saved, and 2) again, you should almost never be missing hits in the first place. It's not absolutely useless if you're learning Nurse, since it's a default perk (meaning new players will have it unlocked) and she already has a long fatigue after blinking and you'll likely miss a lot of swings with her. That extra .45s saved on the cooldown / fatigue could be what you need to not lose a survivor, and at the very least it'll make her feel a bit less punishing to play. It's still pretty trash though... I would buff the effect massively. Think maybe a 60% cooldown reduction on missed swings. That way, it's niche, but it's actually good in its niche. A .6s total cooldown on a missed attack is insanely small, so you could definitely catch some survivors unaware with that. It'd make learning Nurse even less punishing too, which is great.

Dishonorable mention to Technician. It's already a beginner perk locked behind DLC (on most platforms), which is useless, and that 3% additional penalty is downright insulting to anyone else who might want to try it out. They should just remove the penalty. Then there are at least no drawbacks to running it and it could even be useful against Freddy for waking up by blowing up a gen without alerting him.

Another dishonorable mention to Beast of Prey. 50% bonus in-game Hunter BPs are pretty useless because you should already generally be at or close to the Hunter BP cap by the end of a round. Removing your red stain in Bloodlust I is also pretty useless, because you can just moonwalk to hide your stain and you also shouldn't be in Bloodlust but not have LOS on the survivor very often. It could be okay for real beginners though for getting some surprise hits.

Premonition also can't be countered by the killer. For Spine Chill, the killer can just approach your gen while looking at an angle and the kitty cat will never light up. Premonition depends on the survivor's camera, though, so they can be sure when the killer is nearby.

Premonition is also uniquely well-suited to some situations, like when you're repairing gens on the second floor of houses on maps like Haddonfield or Badham. There's only one way up, so you can just stick to the gen and aim your camera at the stairs. That way you can guarantee that a stealth killer won't be able to sneak up on you, especially in those solo gens that have basically no visibility. Spine Chill wouldn't be as good in this situation because the killer probably wouldn't be looking at the gen as they circle the house and climb the stairs; you might just think they were passing.

With that said, I agree it's clearly outclassed by Spine Chill overall and should get a buff. While it does have its own niche, it's a really small niche.

Use in slugging builds ??? As killer, you slug someone who has No Mither ? Please. You see a No Mither surv, you hook him...

I’m saying that they physically cannot slug you even when they really should

Could be good against killers with Alzheimer's disease but, yeah there might not be many of those.

Up the Ante is not only bad it's super boring to use.

I disagree with Deerstalker being useless, it's an alright perk for the Oni and a great perk for slug builds. Anyways, buckle up, because Buckle Up should be replacing Deerstalker. Seeing the progress of someone's recovery is very, VERY situational. You could be going against someone that doesn't even slug. Even if it does come to use, it'd be pointless. Experienced survivors will already know when a survivor is fully recovered. If a survivor has been staying still while downed for a good while or if they're crawling faster (Tenacity), you'd know that they're fully recovered or close to fully recovered.

Poised is good for stealth builds, replace that with Solidarity, another Jane perk and probably the worst healing perk (Autodidact being a close second) in the game if not one of the worst perks. I'm surprised no one's mentioned Solidarity yet. At least Autodidact has more opportunities to it, such as endgame instaheals.

1. You'll only activate it when you're injured as well
2. You barely get any healing progress on yourself when healing another survivor
3. It is completely outclassed by Botany Knowledge and We'll Make It, which are way less situational.

Doesn't work on bear traps anymore with the recent change. Luck is purely an increased chance to self unhook.

Wow really? It's a flat 1/6 chance (with a cap of 6) regardless of luck boosts?

Yes outside of the Trapper add-ons that decrease the chance and increase the cap.

If you want to play in hard mode, just don't heal yourself. No Mither brings nothing interesting and useful. The build you would bring with No Mither would be effective if you aren't heal or during the second part of a chase when you got hit (plus you can bring a perk instead of No Mither... (Iron Will)).

It would be so much more interesting if just the perk grants 100% points in the boldness category, you see how bad I see this perk, and 95% of the DbD community thinks it. It's a almost a trolling perk.

It's useful as a survivor who wants chase interactions, and buy a huge amount of time for the others. "Being a Survivor" like sitting on a gen, and opening gate is boring, I don't think the majority of the survivors play that role for that... (And I don't play to do gen or get a fast escape)

On the one hand that's good because it seems unfair to just have luck mess with Trapper, but on the other hand good lord is luck useless now. They seriously need to rework or remove the whole mechanic.