What does everyone think of the new killer and survivor?

These are uber-first impressions so the community's settled thoughts will likely be quite different.

Survivor is fine. Nothing exceptionally good or exceptionally bad. A new Exhaustion Perk option is always good, I think a lot of people underestimate how Head On has improved the game's health. I do like how they've tried to approach the idea of Perks around the idea of a "selfish" Survivor playstyle.

The Trickster needs to be split up into a bunch of different thoughts.

• The design is bad IMO. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the idea of a flashy Killer or the basic concept, but I think it's poorly executed. The Trickster very blatantly stands out against the rest of the game's roster with him looking way too "normal". You'd think The Entity's influence on him would've created this interesting dichotomy between his attempts to look flashy and beautiful, combined with the inner evil that's readily apparent once you look closer. Kinda like how the Plague has one side of her face that looks fairly normal, only to reveal the other side that's rotting off her skull. Instead, he's just a BTS member with blood splatters. As a sidenote, I also really don't like his running animation, his blendspaces look pretty weird. (the successful attack animation's dope, though)
• His Perks seem cool. Beefy and likely to add variety to games. Probably the best part of the chapter. I find it very weird that No Way Out exists alongside current NOED, though.
• His Power doesn't seem well done. From the Survivor's perspective, this is a lot like Deathslinger, with zero serious interactivity or counterplay. From the Killer's, Huntress or Deathslinger could provide a very similar experience, but in a more exciting manner that rewards good aim more. There aren't that many scenarios where Trickster can land hits when Huntress/Deathslinger wouldn't also land hits, except Trickster requires way more hits in order to get downs, even if they come out faster.

IMO, they should make his ricochet addon basekit. They can always make other adjustments to try and balance him around this, that's just the base design change I think he needs. This would allow Survivors to think more tactically about where they hide in loops, instead of solely thinking about breaking line of sight, and allows Trickster players to have a much higher skillcap plus gives him a unique selling point other ranged Killers don't have.

Gameplay-wise I cannot comment on the Killer as I only had one game as a Survivor (not the new one) and no Killer games. Look-wise I dig it. No real comment on the Survivor.

Aesthetically, I really like the design of both the killer and survivor. Like, really a lot. But I also think they look a little different from the normal style of the game.

I don't get what about the killer is "trickster" since his power is throwing knives and that's... not really a trick, except in the carnival sense. Their power seems like a cross between Huntress and Plague, but my very first impression is that it's a slightly worse version of both, because the survivors don't get injured on a hit, and they passively lose progress toward injury over time.

I'm waiting to see what I think of the perks.

I don’t see how he is related to old legion at all.

I like the design of the new survivor and her lore is very interesting, But her perks are awful.

Don't really like the new killer's design because he looks way too "normal" compared to the other killers. His running animation also looks kind of goofy. But I like his backstory and his perks are decent.

Design - 3/10

Power 9/10

Perks - 7/10

Just not loving the purple hair and humanoid look with bright yellow clothes.

I think the killer's appearance was based on Hisoka from HxH.

I mean, the new killer has some of the scariest lore and chase music in the game... but then we get to the design and it's just, ugh.

Not swaggy at all.

I think he's closer to plague where you charge up vile purge and have to hit consecutive amount of knives to infect someone until they lose health state. Like old legion but with skillshot component with more counter-play.

First impression is that it takes too many knives to down survivors. I am not sure how they thought that this 110% killer is competing with killers like... Nurse... Spirit, Huntress in term of power-level. Also the realism of being able to tank 10+ knives to the face is even better. are we facing survivors or super-humans?

trash. LEGIT garbage in all ways possible I can think of

Your first point about the Killer makes nose sense, really.

The Legion exists, so your thoughts on the Entity changing him are rendered moot.

Think the killer is a cyberpunk reject and doesn't fit into DBD at all, just by looking at him versus every other killer (Legion is meh as well).

Not really a look I can get into, but that's why there's a dozen different killers to choose from.

I think I lost my respect for the devs. They added James Charles in after he was exposed for being a groomer. Even as a killer, he should not make it into the public game.

I tried the killer in the ptb.

I usually play on my ps4, but I have the base game on my notebook. It can't run the game properly and frames are lost...a lot...

played him with just 1 perk because I obviously don't have bloodpoints to use on him.

he is a lot of fun. just throwing the knives is a lot of fun. you can get 3-4 hits on a pallet which usually leads to a health state being taken.

far away hits are cool and all, but it's hard to hit them and the survivor gets a speed boost when they get injured. so I would advise against using long range hits on healthy survivors.

his and the survivor lore are pretty good. him using his victims screams of pain and agony on his music is quite the interesting touch on his story.

Their designs are good.

I would give the chapter an 8 / 10

I like the Lore of the new Killer. Fits quite well into the game's theme. Not sure about the Power/Perks... they seem a bit too samey and show how packed the game is with Perks already. Did we really need another Ranged Killer?

I do not like his look. First thing I thought was "Is this a Joker license?" He looks really similar to Jared Leto's Joker, and I'm not a fan of that. Taking each piece of the Killer, I think they work fine. I don't mind the bright, flashy clothes since they do fit his background and lore. The weapon is pretty interesting. It gives an anime feel which fits fine with his background. When you put it all together though, it looks more like an action FPS character rather than a horror/slasher character.

The Survivor. Fits in with the theme, works well with the lore of the Chapter, perfectly fine imo. Should be some really interesting outfits for her as well, so that will keep people happy for a time. Perk wise... not sure if any of them will fit into my build(s), but there's some things I could do with them. Nothing OP too, which is nice.

What worries me most (said this elsewhere) is how the community will handle things in terms of those that like the new killer vs those that don't.

Because chances are people will celebrate and woobify him, despite him being literally everything (the same) people hate about deathslinger and worse, and what they use to harass deathslinger players/fans. Just watch it happen, i'm taking bets

The killers design is something different but I don't hate it. It's a bit simple which makes it not so horror like to me but that's a personal opinion.

As for the gameplay I just played a few games against him and as him and I can tell you that the experience was just miserable. As killer you take frustratingly long to down people using your ability and when you do get to a point where you could use your ability I found that just giving em a good ol' smack on the head was just a time saver.

As survivor you just feel helpless. He's got the same flaws Deathslinger has when you go against him. Hardly any time to react and to be quite frank it just doesn't matter because he spams it anyways. All short loops suddenly become useless

The gameplay is just so frustrating for both sides...

Also, it's all just so unimaginative... Just another slow killer with projectiles. Nothing really new and I was kinda hoping the devs would come up with an original power.

It's just lackluster.