Camping and tunneling

They aren't going to look into the issue anymore than they have.

• they already add perks that give the killer power for leaving the hook
• they already punish the killer pip and point wise for camping the hook

Frankly, leaving the 1 person to rot is the best choice.

• The game is fast and short, so you don't have to put up with the camper long
• 3 out of the 4 survivors are guaranteed to get something
• The killer will eventually get the hint as his blood point income slows to a trickle in a game that is grindy as #########..

So what if 1 person doesn't have fun? there is no way you can guarantee that everybody is going to have fun in a game - that's a pipe dream. At least it's short. It takes only 2 minutes for that person to die. 2 minutes of your entire evening sitting on a hook. FFS, I microwave a breakfast sandwich in half that time. In 2 minutes, it's over and they can try their luck again.

Then that isn't the Killers fault.

DC's and suicides are people who have so little self-awareness they don't realize they shouldn't be wasting their time on a game they obviously have no business playing because they are not enjoying themselves.

Here's the Killer's win condition if they are facecamping.

If the Survivor kills themselves, the Killer wins.

If the Survivor stays alive, they lose...badly.

I did not know that you were going to start insulting me for offering a rational argument and a solution to your issue.

How was I offensive? All I did was provide a reasonable argument.

Your math is wrong. One gen (Solo) takes 80 seconds. There are three other people. Even if they all did separate gens, that's three gens done. If the next Survivor can loop for as long as the first, they can finish all 5 gens.

Using your numbers, 100 seconds of chase and 120 on hook does give 220 seconds. Which equals about 3 gens. If the next Survivor (who was on a Solo gen) gets chased for another 100 seconds, they finish the last gen and at the bare minimum, two escape.

This will force the Killer to de-pip at any Rank above Green. In Red Ranks, you would probably end up with a Bronze Devout, Silver Chaser, Silver Maliciousness and Bronze Deviousness.

I actually am a 50/50 player. See, my profile picture is Steve, since I am a Steve main :)

You cannot EVER get 5 gens done in 220 seconds, unless you have some serious toolboxes and Prove Thyself and even then, I doubt it.

If you are SoloQ, it isn't hard to see that the Killer is hard camping. If you see the Killer staring down a hooked Survivor, go do a gen, please.

...I only play Solo. On the rare occasion I do play Duo, it's usually with another Rank 1 Survivor.

They should probably address it in the survivor base kit, or at least add some perks. DS is a fart in the hurricane and Borrowed Time is one extra hit, if they don't tunnel the rescuer anyways.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but there is a feature from a roblox DBD ripoff that may address this issue. Preferably as part of the base kit, they could have it so that the hook speed is significantly decreased while the killer is in close proximity. The intent of the devs was to make it so that camping robs the killer of pressure, but what usually happens is that one survivor is camped to death for two minutes, max efficiency survivors will churn through 3 gens (80 seconds each) and then they can team up to tackle the next gen, at which point the killer has 1.5 gens' worth of time to catch and camp another survivor, after which only 2 survivors escape. By slowing down hook progress by proximity (it would scale, so facecamping would reduce it to a crawl, proximity camping would extend it by a minute or two), it would carry out this intention of punishing their lack of pressure.

I would also be a fan of making it so that at a certain distance, the hook progress just stops, but that's boring and has potential for holding the game hostage.

Speaking of holding the game hostage, nothing is stopping a Bubba from waiting out the entire match with one hooked survivor, until endgame collapse happens and eventually shuts the whole operation down. That, however, would probably best be addressed by a perk that protects the rescuer, as well as the rescued survivor. You can hook dive with borrowed time, but then you're going to be hooked, getting the killer a completely undeserved kill. Perhaps a perk that lets the rescuer absorb a hit and protects them from grabs when the killer is nearby.

As for tunneling, that would probably be addressed by a perk (not DS). I won't speak to its specific design, but it should 1) not require you to be hooked, just to be tunneled. 2) proc multiple times, each time more debilitating than before. Once DS is out of the way, you bet that killers are going to continue tunneling you into the ground. 3) have minor functionality outside of anti-tunnel capacities. Tunneling is rare, but it's so incredibly unfun that you'd be obligated to run said perk. Might as well have it give you at least a minimal buff when you're not being tunneled.

Im not sure about that, i played 10 games now in a row on EU servers soloq and 9 killers legit proxy/facecamp and tunneled the first hooked survivor (me included) to death. As killer against 3 survivors the game becomes more ez, legit strategy... I should play civilization and never come back to this absolutely perfect balanced game with zero killer exploits.