Idea for Spirit counterplay

>That's fine the outcome is still a win for killer with that scenario. Lots of pvp games can turn at any given moment. I think if there was a clear win condition then it would be better to analyse the data. Currently most killers are between 2-3 kills average red rank. That's more of a killer team win rather than a survivor team win in my book. Watch your use of the phrase 'by definition'. By definition of what? lol awkward phrasing.

And none assymetric pvp games use such kind of stats as a measure of things. You picked on my wording, minor moments but ignored the main argument - judging by kill rate in a game where earning a "kill" has less than nothing in common with something being strong or not is a wrong approach in the first place.

I didn't even mention another main reason why killrate stats are flawed - they don't consider disconnects (early DC = death sentence for other survivors), presence of SWF, items, addons and perks used and many other factors that greatly affect the outcome. All that Killrate stats show is: Killer, killrate and rank. Nothing else.

>Where did you pull that stat from? aha

From the same place Spirit haters pull "it's a guess" argument.

>I'm aware that it's a distraction from the killer. That doesn't mean they're going to commit to searching. It begs the question: Why are you so against chase? You have this demeanour that you're a terrible player if you're good at chase. I don't get it.

Yet another masterful evasion of addressing the main argument.

>Stealth is a pretty clear cut very little micromanagement skill for survivor. That's why it's not replayable like chase. Many of the top killer content creators share an enjoyment out of chasing survivors. It's a huge part of the gameplay for killer and survivor. Stealth means not doing generators.

Being thrilled by killer passing by is pretty replayable, people just don't give it a try, because it's much easier to them to wait until killer is right near them and then run away with SB and start a chase.

>Audio. You're tracking with audio. You see tall grass movement too. You're going to say walk then. You can still hear breathing. A good spirit player gets very accurate with this.

Tracking with audio really works when survivor is injured. When they are not, all other sounds are usually overwhelmed by whoosh sound, unless you turn on your volume to maximum, but in that case playing spirit is harmful for your ears.

>Please stop using your one liner 'mental gymnastics' and please stop bolding words. Keep it civil

I'm calling things their names. You twist my words, pick on awkward wording, create strawman arguments and avoid answering my main points. You are also trying to make it person by indirectly insulting me (calling me terrible player for example).

>How is that provocative? What? Just say no lol

Alright, I'm saying No. I'm not going to waste my time playing with a person who is too stubborn to accept any kind of arguments or facts that contradict his view and who will twist even the most unfavourable things for him in his favour and call it a win. That would be pretty worthless, you've yet to prove anything on words, why do you think you'll prove anything in action?

Alright this is last response then.

Nah pretty sure I brought a lot to discuss mate. Even with your vague answers at time, I can see Spirit's state means a lot to you. Each to their own. Still think she is unhealthy in current state.

A little annoyed with your snarky behaviour I was genuinely happy to have a discussion on spirit. You seem to have a premeditated response to everything I say though whether or not it actually answers the question.

Sorry guess this one's the last reply out of sheer pity.

Mate. "Disapproved"? Are you sure that's the correct term? aha

Call it what you will; that's the third time you've used the same one-liner. Yikes.

Oh you won? Well done dad didn't even hear the fat lady sing. You're sooo good at this sweetie.

I'll remember you when spirit receives her next change. I'll let you know I was on the old ruin nerf train, first spirit nerf, mori nerf, PH nerf and recent undying nerf train. I tell you I have argued with people who struggle to argue just like yourself. I'd produce similar arguments on reddit and here. I must not know anything. The only other thing that hasn't changed yet is the noed rework train.

You know nothin' Jon Snow.

Good luck, I hope you get it your way.

The word 'bias' doesn't look good on you. Just saying.

I do understand that it's boring to deal with god pallets/windows. That doesn't discount the fact spirit has this issue for survivor.

true true.