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Petition to a last minute change of the new killer's title

MeltingPenguins
MeltingPenguins Member Posts: 3,742
edited March 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

Let's be honest, 'trickster' doesn't fit what he's doing or anything at all.

Can we rename him to 'Showman' last minute?

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Comments

  • MeltingPenguins
    MeltingPenguins Member Posts: 3,742

    Why is the name set in stone? fandom can adjust.

  • QwQw
    QwQw Member Posts: 4,696

    He's called "The Trickster" because he preforms tricks with his knifes and bat.

  • IWasLeft2Die
    IWasLeft2Die Member Posts: 2,405

    I've already accepted that we will have an underwhelming name for him. I wish they would change it but it seems unlikely

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    It's too late to change it.

    That said, The Trickster doesn't make any sense at all. It's literally just thrown into his bio to make it connect. Nothing about him is even remotely related to the word "Trickster".

  • IWasLeft2Die
    IWasLeft2Die Member Posts: 2,405

    I also would love if they did like "The Big Mac" and it was the next licensed killer lol

  • FearlessHunter
    FearlessHunter Member Posts: 546

    I would have liked a name such as 'The Deception' as to the public he's a beloved kpop star but in reality he's an insane murderer who loves attention.

  • VexTheHex
    VexTheHex Member Posts: 1,009

    Trickster works imo cause of the knife tricks, the bat tricks, and tricking all of the world into thinking he was some tragic hero when he let his band die and started killing people for their screams that he put into his music and got away with it all. Then the whole trick of gassing his entire boss line up and slaughtering them in a concert.


    Meanwhile Clown? Throws bottles and coughs like Homer?!? Nurse? Teleports?!? Hag?!? Draws mud triangles?!?! Etc.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874

    Probably because they've already submitted all the stuff to the relevant platforma.

  • VolantConch1719
    VolantConch1719 Member Posts: 1,321

    His name fits a lot better than some of the names we have in regards to his power. Let's just look at them all (at least the original ones).

    Trapper - Places traps. The name works.

    Wraith - Uses a bell to go invisible. Somewhat works.

    Hillbilly - Uses a chainsaw to run around the map. Tell me, when you think of hillbillies, do people with chainsaws REALLY come to mind.

    Nurse - Teleports through walls. By your logic, we should rename her as well because Nurse has nothing to do with her power.

    Hag - Places traps down and teleports. Again, how does that connect to Hag?

    Doctor - Electrocutes people. What is so Doctor-y about that?

    Huntress - Throws hatchets while humming a lullaby. Only somewhat works.

    Clown - Throughs drug bottles. You know, like Clowns are known to do.

    Spirit - Temporarily goes invisible. The name works

    Legion - Runs around and stabs people. The only thing that makes them a Legion is their lore and cosmetics.

    Plague - Vomits on people. The name works.

    Oni - Shifts between katana form and kanabo-wielding demon form, which oni's are known to do. The name works.

    Deathslinger - A play on the word gunslinger, which he is. The name works.

    Blight - Living pinball. Do I need to explain how thinking of the word Blight doesn't bring that image to mind.

    Twins - There are two of them, and they are conjoined. The name works.

    Trickster - Performs knife tricks. The name works.

    By your own logic of "'trickster' doesn't fit what he's doing or anything at all" being your cause for changing his name, 7 of the 16 original Killers should have their names changed as well.

    And before someone goes around and calls me a K-Pop fan for defending his name (because I'm sure someone will), my experience extends to MAYBE two songs (and that's only if K/DA actually counts), so no, I'm not a fan of the genre. I also believe he should have been called the Idol, but then, by OP's logic, he would need to have his name changed because it doesn't really describe what he's doing except in his lore, which is where he gets the name Trickster in the first place, from the dokkaebi trickster spirits.

    Trickster works. Accept it.

  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,304

    The useless?

  • Profezia
    Profezia Member Posts: 673

    Firstly, let me clear out why does "trickster" doesn't work. New killer is a musician, k-pop superstar, artist and a murderer who thinks that killing is an art. Nothing about him says "tricks". The only time such thing as "tricks" was mentioned was the beginning of his bio where his youth was described. The Trickster doesn't describe his persona, power or character.

    You said that he "performs knife tricks" but that's wrong. He doesn't perform knife tricks, he just throws knives. At best you can call that "trick shots", but not tricks. Knife tricks is something you do when you flex with your butterfly knife flipping skills.

    The ENTIRE point of the "alias" every killer has (at least the OG killers) is to shortly describe a character or give a clue of their persona, main trait or power. I'll even elaborate and say that the "alias" represents the "trope" the killer is made of.

    "Trickster's" alias doesn't represent neither of things I mentioned above multiple times. "The Superstar" or "The Artist" are much better options since they shortly describe who the killer basically is.

    Secondly, I'll explain why every single other killers' alias works:

    • Trapper - name describes his power
    • Wraith - name gives a clue what his power does - makes him invisible
    • Hillbilly - name describes his character (a hillbilly)
    • Nurse - name describes a trope this character is based on (nurse killer)
    • Hag - name describes one of her main traits, knowledge of magic symbols that are usually known to witches (or hags). Also, it describes her appearance, since she does look like a hag.
    • Doctor - name describes a trope this character is based on (doctor killer)
    • Huntress - name describes multiple things about this character - it gives a vague clue of her power and describes her character (she's a hunter)
    • Clown - name describes a trope this character is based on (clown killer)
    • Spirit - name once again describes a trope this character is based on (something about japanese view on ghosts and vengeful spirits that also move very unpredictably and look pretty much like rin)
    • Legion - name describes main trait of characters it unites (being a part of a "Legion" that was a defining thing in their lives) the worst name of a killer so far, but there's not really anything else that could be used to describe them.
    • Plague - name describes a thing that lead character to what it is now, as well as it describes a new nature of a character. She is literally a human manifestation of the Plague.
    • Oni - name describes the main trait of a character (a brute ogre demon)
    • Deathslinger - as you said, wordplay on a gunslinger, name pretty much explains what his power is.
    • Blight - name once again describes a thing this character became a manifestation of. Talbot Grimes is basically human manifestation of the Blight corruption and this corruption is now a defining thing in his character. If you read the lore before Descent Beyond release, you could even guess that the "Blight" would be just as aggressive and volatile as blight affected critters in the notes of 2018 event.
    • Twins - name once again describes the main trait of a character and gives a huge clue on their power.

    Then we have "The Trickster" whose name describes a minor fact in his bio that was immediately forgotten. This name has the least connection with the killer it is supposed to represent than literally any other name of any other killer in the game. This name sucks ass and the only reason it will not be change is because it is too late.

  • thefallenloser
    thefallenloser Member Posts: 1,298

    His name is his show name and describes how he tricked/deceived everyone he knew and how he is crafty with his trick blades.

    Fits to me, but sure.

  • Baby_Victor
    Baby_Victor Member Posts: 486

    Oh man, glad you were willing to point out his mistakes. I couldn’t believe he wasn’t pointing out any of the tropes.

    Anyway, it won’t happen but I would also like it changed.

    My friend, who no longer plays DbD but knows generally enough for me to mention some DbD related news, had asked me about the new killer.

    So I sent him a picture. He scoffed at the new Killer and said it reminded him of Jared Leto version of Joker. Then I told him he was called the Trickster and busted into a guttural laugh and exclaimed “It is the Joker!”

  • Profezia
    Profezia Member Posts: 673

    What? That he lured some people into the studio and burnt them down while they were begging for help? Or that he used to throw knifes in his youth?

    That's not major enough to justify an alias he has. His entire persona wasn't about playing tricks or performing knife TRICKS (did I mention already that throwing knives isn't a trick? Then I'll say it again, throwing knives isn't a trick). His entire persona is about narcissism and creating music out of screams of agony. His power is about throwing knives and not performing flex tricks with them. I repeat, there's NO tricks in THROWING knives.

    So, his alias doesn't describe his main traits, power, motivation or even the trope he's based on. The way it is related to him is so far-fetched and laughable that even the alias "The Dancer" fits him more.

    If they added a sentence about his father death, they could've called him "The Orphan" as well, because it would make just as much sense as "The Trickster" does.

  • NVerde
    NVerde Member Posts: 264

    The Sadist

  • VolantConch1719
    VolantConch1719 Member Posts: 1,321

    The way the OP structured their argument seemed to rely on how his alias has no connection to his power, and that is how I approached my argument. Of course that would be an EXTREME oversimplification of the Killers, but this shows the importance of wording your arguments well.

    As I said (and you conveniently ignored), I feel the Idol would have been a better name because that is what he was. The Trickster was merely a stage name that does his character little justice (other than a connection to the dokkaebi trickster spirits brought up in Yun-Jin's lore), and will forever be a missed opportunity to use it for a Killer that does ACTUAL tricks.

    However, even without taking his power into account, the Trickster does work as a title, even if not the best one. As others have pointed out (and you are calling a stretch), the whole thing behind him is how he looks like an ordinary person, able to blend into a crowd without appearing out of place. He uses this to "trick" people into thinking he's not actually the dangerous serial killer he is. He follows the trope of the villain that you'd never expect to be evil due to his appearance better than ANY OTHER KILLER IN THE GAME.

    Once again, "Idol," "Showstar," "Musician," "Popstar," etc. all work way better than Trickster, but his title does work.

  • Exerath1992
    Exerath1992 Member Posts: 1,035

    The showman does seem to fit well... But if they are making bounce knives base kit, then trickster works

  • Profezia
    Profezia Member Posts: 673

    > the whole thing behind him is how he looks like an ordinary person, able to blend into a crowd without appearing out of place.

    >He uses this to "trick" people into thinking he's not actually the dangerous serial killer he is. He follows the trope of the villain that you'd never expect to be evil due to his appearance better than ANY OTHER KILLER IN THE GAME.

    Firstly, that's Legion's, Clown's and Ghostface's thing which one of them used long before DbD was even a thing.

    Secondly, how exactly an extravagant glamour superstar can "blend into a crowd" or look like "an ordinary person"? His entire scenic persona (and as we know his true self) is being batshit insane.

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,384
  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458

    My vote would be for the Artiste or the Virtuoso, since I don't think he is much of a showman either.