When will mouse macros finally be dealt with? Oni/Blight mains are cheating

I'm literally console, so I can't do either the 180 oni flick or the j flick on blight.

If it had no counter then sure, id understand why people want it removed. But once again all I see is survivors whining and refusing to adapt to a trick that doesn't even change the game that much and only increases the skillcap of versing and playing these killers.

Also, it's only a reportable offence if it has a detrimental effect to the game, eg infinite mend legion. This doesn't. Some unintended game mechanics are recognised by the devs like the tractor tech, and even mclean himself knows about the j flick and at the current date he has no plans to remove it.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I was CLEARLY talking about exploits that happen outside the programming and thus cannot be affected. The DEV cannot program anything which will detect the Player's mouse or monitor settings, whether or not their monitor provides a targeting system or adjusting hue and brightness. The setting on a monitor are not detectable by the DEV or any other game system either. They likewise can't see how you setup your mouse. There are also keyboards that can store a mountain of macros. Hotkeys have been a thing for a LONG time. Do you see where I'm going with this?

At no time did I mention (or care) about the turning radius of Oni or Blight. I was addressing the fact that macros set on a mouse, like settings on a monitor, are something the DEV can't control. But if you want to go down this rabbit hole, why do you think the DEV should hobble Oni and Blight for EVERYONE because there are "some" cheaters out there? And for the record, I don't play either Killer.

If it makes you feel better I'm a PC Player that uses an Xbox controller because I hate playing by keyboard. I find the controller far more intuitive for myself. I do sacrifice the ability for those crazy spin turns though. :)

Samesies.

You CLEARLY weren't.

You're addressing a thread about Oni/Blight J-flicks and saying that they're using macros to achieve it (which is true). Don't twist your words how insecure are you?

I see where you're going with your new response. That's not what they are looking for to fix Oni/Blight J turn exploiters.

I'll say it again: you're out of your depth answering this question.

Yes you hobble Oni/Blight (a real stretch of it's definition good one Moundshroud) because it provides uncounterable play in chase with these two killers. The amount of players that do it is irrelevent. You're going to say what about all the survivor stuff that's exploitable. Fix it too. Stop enabling BHVR complacency.

You're a hoot. Since you think I'm so out of my depth by explaining the FACT that the DEV do not have the capability to somehow sense your monitor, mouse, and keyboard settings, why don't you explain exactly how (specifics) you want these two Killers altered. Please, by all means, provide EXACTLY how (within the code) this can be done affecting all platforms equally, but without making those two Killers totally ineffectual. I will be expecting you to show your math.

Sure? Go right ahead. Although I still don't think you are being specific enough, i.e. you still don't explain how it is going to work in code, across all platforms, not do you explain the net effect on the Killers. I think it is easy for people (like you) to demand changes without having seen the actual code involved in this game. But if you are this miracle savant, and actually put the work up, perhaps BEhavior will see it and slap their foreheads and say "DOH! Why didn't we think of that." Or, your work and utter lack of knowledge of the situation will just continue to make you look even more foolish. I consider it win/win. If you are right, perhaps something will come of it. If you are wrong (99.9% likely) you will continue to entertain us with your little, silly screeds.

Not at all. My ego, as anyone will tell you, is quite oversized tied to my force of will. I don't even remember your name or this post after I've left it until I get a notification and come back to remind myself. But I do appreciate you proving my point for me. Let me home in on something you said above; you said, "I can't write the code here because I don't have the source code." Exactly. You don't know what you are talking about. While I am an egotistical SOB, even I don't make the assumptions that you do. You simply assume that there are no problems, that to implement the immediate gratification you want is a snap. What wonderfully high opinion you have or yourself and your abilities; are we kindred spirits? The difference between us is that I will take pride in the things I accomplish and know for a fact. I don't assume that I'm smarter than the coders at the DEV. I don't even assume I know more about code than you do (although it is quite possible). What I do know is that there is no way for them to detect what settings people have on their monitors, mice, and keyboards. What I do know is that any attempt to curtail those Killers across all platforms is a very messy can of worms. Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

All you do is demand what you WANT and infer that the DEV are somehow lazy or have ulterior motives for not granting you immediate gratification. Believe it or not, I've been taking it easy on you. I'm trying HARD to be a kinder, more gentle Moundshroud. Until you can come to us with some facts, you are just another nameless, faceless voice quacking on the internet. You are a child throwing a tantrum, mad about some perceived injustice and screaming ME! ME! ME!

How so? I admit that I'm an egotistical SOB. I'm very up front about that. That is the opposite of being a hypocrite. Ironic? Perhaps. But again, I always willing to eat crow when I'm wrong, apologize when I step over the line, and back up my claims. I'm a very direct, proof is in the pudding kind of person.

Hey respect for owning it. That's gutsy.

Not sure how you fathomed that little cheeky parenthesis: "(although it is quite possible.)" I have been able to answer your technical questions, you have not. See the irony? As for BHVR complacency with their updates. I promise you it's not as much work as they make it out to you.

I'm not calling you unintelligent. If this were a creative writing seminar you would smash me. You clearly have far greater vocabulary than me but don't pretend that you have an input against me in these technical discussions.

You didn't have to write all that out lol.

EDIT: I know you're taking it easy on me. I've seen the abuse you've sent to people here. Not cool.

They are bad behaviors; they are also different from MY bad behaviors. I'm working on mine. :) The person I was speaking with apparently took issue with me pointing out that the DEV have no way of policing personal monitors, mice, or keyboards. That is a fact. It is a separate fact from the problem with Oni and Blight. The turns Oni/Blight make are no different from the advantage that PCs have over console with their crazy 360 Survivor jukes. It is an issue that has no easy solution. The DEV attempted to prevent it with the new animations, i.e. sneak it in under the radar but the reaction was so entitled and negative that they just put things back. The issue is that attempting, across all platforms, to try and mitigate it will have lots of unintended consequences. It also punishes people who aren't cheating for the sake of catching some that are... always a slippery slope.

I am open and honest about the fact that I have don't know what is involved in making changes to the code. It clearly is not a simple process because every change they make takes forever and is clearly quite involved. I suspect this is in part due to the nature of the spaghetti code situation they are stuck in, combined with the complications of all the various platforms that now interact. Will something be done about Oni/Blight at some point? Probably. That, however, is not what I was pointing out. It is never as easy as all those demanding instant gratification claim. I also think attacks on the company you want something from are kind of counterproductive. Those are real people on the other side of the screen and being called lazy, idiots, incompetents, or evil corporate drones doesn't sit well with them. Like us, I suspect they do the best they can with what they have to work with. We don't know so I find the nature of some of the complaints and demands I hear to be rather rude and poorly thought out.

The company has a much larger VESTED interest in the game being successful. For us this game is a luxury item, something that we can walk away from at any time. For them, the game is their jobs. Who do you think it matters to more? I reserve most of my bile for people who can't seem to engage in common courtesy. As far as the game is concerned, I also pass my feedback along to the DEV. I'm not offended when they don't make use of it. I do my part and move on. If I'm not happy with a game, I find another. So far, Dead by Daylight is far more fun to me than not. The issues (and there are issues) are not big enough to make a dent in the fun I have playing it. When that changes, if it changes, I'll vagabond on to the next game. I won't even stop by here to give some dramatic "goodbye cruel DbD" post.

Even your autocorrect couldn't type out your sentence correctly.

Your counterplay is to run out into the hitzone where a normal player can turn. For every time Oni/Blight can already get hits, how's it make sense to have a 50/50 in the limited space you can use to maneouvre away from a blight/oni in power.

No your autocorrect or whatever. It went from can to can't. First sentence. I wasn't talking about your sentences. They're A okay.

I'm not complaining. I know how to dodge it. I'm just saying it's a 50/50 every time they do it with an ability that is already super powerful.