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Meritocracy
I think the forums MUST display a users rank for both Killer and Survivor. It's not fair if a green rank survivor has an equal say to that of a red rank. It's annoying seeing all these posts crying about which killer to nerf next when the OP probably has never played high level gameplay to begin with.
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Ranks are not a very good display of skill.
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Its better than nothing. Also replace Ranks with MMR in a month anyway which hopefully will be more accurate.
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No.
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Scared of being exposed?
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What about a green rank survivor that couldn't be bothered cheesing back to rank 1 after the depip fiasco? Or a red rank killer that's constantly hovering around rank 1 because it's easy to rank up as two of their mains?
Rank is not a measure of skill. If it was, I'd be somewhere around rank 5 as both. As would almost everyone else.
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This would only cause more strife and elitism in the community. It's already irritating enough with the "you don't play <insert role here> so why are you talking" people.
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You're implying that green rank person is going to be green rank forever? You said you need cheese tactics to reach rank 1? maybe you shouldn't be rank 1 if you need to cheese your way there. Every rank system has its minor flaws but id prefer to know I'm reading the opinion of someone that plays the game high rank rather than low rank which doesn't effect me at all. Rank is a measure of skill though.. I can guarantee if I verse a group of 1's and then a group of 20's there is a huge gameplay difference.
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Yeah thats the point of meritocracy. The better players should have a higher value opinion on gameplay seeing that they are.. high rank
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Rank is hardly relevant to a person's take on the game.
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Of course it is. Why should a new player that doesn't understand the whole game yet have an equal say to someone that has mastered the game and knows what they are talking about?
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"Mastered"
This game has too much jank for anyone to be a true master at it. And a newbie player's opinions come from the merit of their statement, not from how long they've played. A new player has the potential to provide insight that others don't see. And like others have said, there's literally no reason to further divide this fandom even more. Killer mains vs. Survivor mains is already annoying enough; we don't need Red Killers vs. Green Killers vs. Purple Survivors vs. Yellow Survivors (etc..).
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Nope. Just don't think that belittling people's opinions for their rank is a good idea. Sorry.
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Well said.
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Yeah so all players are equal and no one is better than each other.. are you on the right forums? No a newbie players opinion has nothing to do with rank 1 gameplay, not now not ever. Under no circumstance should a rank 17 killer that has had the game for less than a week, have an equal say to a rank 1 killer that studies the patch notes each update to keep ahead. The only people that argue about meritocracy are the people that will be left at the bottom.
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Because it’s a PUBLIC forum. It doesn’t mean anybody has to agree, or take on board anything anybody else has posted.
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Aww scared your opinion on what killer to nerf next wont matter as much when you get exposed.. awww
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Ranks don't equal anything to skill, it just means you decided to invest your time into this game and decided you want to make it to red ranks. That was my goal at first, but since that was two years ago being a red ranks don't mean anything. Being rank 1 on survivor and killer doesn't really mean anything, and ranks won't mean anything until we have the rank rewards once MMR officially comes out.
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I'm sorry but this would never work.
As other has stated a person's rank is not a reasonable measurement to skill. A person can ba a rank 20 and have expert knowledge on the game.
Also devaluing someone stance or opinion on the subject is just rude. All this would be doing is creating an unnecessary hierarchy in which people can potentially spout how better they are because if something as arbitrary as rank. Which in turn can breed more toxicity.
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Ranks are pretty useless in 2021.
You could only gen and unhook 24/7 and likely hit Rank 1.
What's really important is MMR which is smth I agree with.
There's a reason why ranks are going away.
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What is this meme that ranks dont mean anything? Anyone that says that instantly has their whole opinion discarded seeing that they think a killer going against rank 20's will be equal going against rank 1's. Its a dumb meme and anyone that actually thinks rank means absolutely nothing are dumb. If you're a natural rank 1 killer you wont be able to change that unless you purposely derank. When I was rank 1 I stayed rank 1 until I wanted to lose pips and I would afk to do that. if you cant stay at rank 1 when you play the game maybe you're not meant to be rank 1...
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Why should they have a higher value opinion when
A. Rank does not indicate skill, merely how often a player plays since the last reset.
B. Changes to gameplay affect all ranks and not just the "top %!!!!!"
When it comes to the impact on the playerbase making changes based solely on one perspective will shut out everyone else who either doesn't play frequently enough, or doesn't care to try and rank up.
All this would do is encourage even more snobbiness and jackass posts by people just like your responses to other peoples comments on this thread. Not something I really like, anyhow cheers.
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0/10 bait post. High levels of elitism and salt detected.
This is a terrible idea, as said above for the reasons above.
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1. You already did waste your time on me by replying so...
2. Really insults? How mature of you.
3. From your post you put too much meaning and value into something as arbitrary and nonsensical as rank. Its honestly pretty petty and you sound very elitist.
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Minor flaws? I can loop a killer for 3 gens and depip or kill my entire team doing bones and holding W to victory.
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Holding W wont get you a win. you would run straight into a wall and the killer will just down you? oh but wait there is skill when it comes to moving around the map you just don't want to admit that because that would mean I'm right.
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Oh grow up will you?
Just because you can out loop a killer doesn't make you "good" nor vice versa.
Ranks go up based on OBJECTIVES i.e. doing/breaking gens, hooking/unhooking survivors, looping and etc.
If you do 2/3 you'll gain a pip which you need to rank up.
What don't you understand about the basic fundamentals of this game?
What you want is MMR, a skill-based/calculated system that differentiates players' proficiency at playing.
Looks like you don't know what you are talking about 😂
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Technically impossible, so any discussion is pointless
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Yes a survivor that can mind game a killer and loop them for minutes is much better than a survivor that gets downed instantly. You are obviously the type of survivor that just gets downed hence why you are so salty.
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Its not about me its about the future of this game, my man.
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What? You've completely missed my point that it blows my mind.
Where do I sound salty?
And as a rank 4 survivor and rank 6 killer, I don't classify myself as "better" than say a rank 6 and a 9 just because my "numbers" are higher.
I may still make mistakes that a rank 6 may not make.
All my rank says is that I am more prone to finishing actual objectives. That's not "skill".
You need to calm yourself before you talk.
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That’s entirely false.
They FACTOR some community feedback into their decision making process.
They don’t operate unanimously on the grounds of “whatever is suggested on the forums MUST be put into the game!”
Also this forum only represents a small fraction of the DBD playerbase.
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So you think some boosted swf player who gets carried by their friends should have a bigger say in the game than a solo just because their rank is higher
okkkkkkkkkkk
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You should probably just stop. It will get you no where and your just wasting energy.
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He thinks this is a pitch meeting instead of a forum dedicated to avid DBD fans 😂
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Sluzzy does this so much better.
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Yeah you're mad but its okay I wont hold it over you.
a rank 4 is practically the same as a rank 6 but a rank 4 has a lot more skill than a rank 12.
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That's the fattest trolling I saw for a week
Try better
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hmmm, mad?
I don't think you know the meaning of the word well. Here, I'll put it up for ya:
"intensely angry or displeased -Merriam Webster-"
I'm not "intensely angry or displeased".
You are a nobody on the internet, why should I be mad at you?
All I am doing is pointing out the obvious facts of your silly, unlettered argument that has no factual basis whatsoever.
The one that's looking rather foolish is you, sir. 😀
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I got rank 1 with no perk, no addon Wraith, does that mean I am the jesus of DBD? no, it just means I played a lot of DBD and it took me 150+ games to get there. The rank system has nothing to do with skill and one of my friends got to red ranks in his first 90-100 hours into the game. Nice attempt to split this community even further.
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HAHAHA the amount of COPE on this forum right now is amazing. I really rustled all your jimmies and I will continue too because I love this.
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A: Pretty sure if you camp your heart out and all the survivors spend the match trying to pluck their buddy out from under you, you're gonna rank up.
B: Pretty much every game that does this also ends up detested by its own community. The playerbase isn't 'the top 1%'. The game can either be competitive or fun, it can -never- be both.
And yeah, ranks mean nothing, especially as survivor, since your grade is directly impacted by your teammates. You'll pip for just holding M1 on gens while someone else does all the hard work, you'll depip for going for a safe unhook and having some potato sprint burst in from the other side of the map with killer in tow and making a dumb, unsafe unhook, leaving you holding the bag.
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Oh my gods that's so cute, you don't even know what holding W means! And you made a thread about being skilled!
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“They FACTOR some community feedback into their decision making process.”
Do you have a selective reading problem?
I’m not sure how you thought my above statement implied the devs ignore the forums entirely.
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"Haha! My lack-of-argument has been debunked several times and I have no other points to provide! I know! I'll suggest that everyone's having trouble coping with my 'great idea' while I continue making statements that prove I don't know what I'm talking about!"
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A. Wrong, I get a 4k pretty much every game I camp as bubba and you cant get past rank 8 if you camp. I tested this I have been doing it all week.
B. Kinda like how DBD is detested by its own community?
You're forgetting everything in between. No you cant just hold M1 on a gen and get rank 1. You have to know when to get off and hide or the killer will down you. If the killer is good you he wont keep getting looped and he will contest gens so the person luring him away wont work. If someone does a dangerous unhook they usually have BT and if they dont you can always use DS, thats what perks are for so use them.
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Lmao COPE I broke you.
So you agree the devs listen to the forums. Look im right again, how sweet it feels.
No one has defeated my argument that a rank 20 is is not better than a rank 1. I can tell you're seething but I promise I wont hold it against you.
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Your "arguments" were destroyed several posts back. The rest of this is just you digging in your heels so that you don't have to face that.
Rank is not a true measure of skill. Breathe. Don't let it destroy the world that you've created for yourself. You'll be okay. I promise. No one's going to hold your upset against you, but it'll be awhile before they take anything you say seriously.
Again, it's okay. Your rank in the game isn't the only cool thing you've ever done. Sit with that. Breathe. You'll be fine. I promise.
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Sorry bro, I really broke you
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If you actually paid attention, you'd see that I play both Survivor and Killer, but since you lack the mental capacity for critical thinking, I'll give you a quick rundown.
I've been Rank 1 on both sides for 2+ years and have close to 1000+ hours on either side. I've watched tournaments, guides, streamers and friends play the game. I've been on these forums for a almost 2 years and have been lurking here for longer. It's quite likely that, by your own system, my opinion outranks yours.
The only person getting exposed here is you, since your idea was rejected by pretty much everyone, you decided to start attacking people in the stead of providing any meaningful discussion.
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See this is where your assumption is wrong. I have all skins and p3 on every character as well as legacy. I have been playing since alpha and actually was one of the game testers before it was released. So really, my opinion out ranks yours. Now when you can back up your claims I will happily back up mine.
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