The Gap Between Solo Survivors and SWF

@Master said:
Or they simply give us ingame voice comms.

The last thing I want to be reminded of when I'm playing a horror game is how many of my teammates are literally babies.

I like the ideas. However, in my opinion, it should be Kindred Tier 3. I mean swf survivor can communicate directly to each other if a killer is camping or not, so it's only fair for solo survivors to have the ability to see the aura of killers. Just finding out if a killer is camping by looking at what other survivors are doing isn't the same. If someone gets hit near the hook for example, what then? How are the other two survivors supposed to tell if the killer is chasing the survivor or if he's staying at the hook? I mean sure watching that survivor a bit more will reveal that to you, but it's still time wasted that swf survivors don't have to waste.
Also, I would add Bond to the base kit as well, at least when survivors are injured. This is another advantage swf survivor definitely have, finding each other to heal.
Also, I don't mind your changes to the totems, but not as long as NOED exists. That would be an insane buff to NOED, making it pretty much impossible to get rid of all totems in order to prevent NOED from activating. Having to cleanse 10 totems would be ridiculous.

Nickenzie said:

Carpemortum said:

Did the last thread that had that pic get so bad we needed ANOTHER post about it?

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/30342/brainstorming-swf-vs-solo-balancing-ideas#latest

Wow, you did one better, you didn't tell me if you agreed or disagreed about my suggestions while not telling me WHY you disagree or agree. You also get bonus points for attempting to derail this thread.

Now your punishment...

@ReneAensland said:

@ad19970 said:

@altruistic said:
Solo play is garbage.  It doesn’t surprise me seeing 3-4 man SWF teams every game of Killer I play.  

Really? Despite the disadvantages of solo survivor I still find playing solo survivor very enjoyable.You know as long as you don't get camped, but that's on the devs to finally nerf camping. i find you can still do really well even as solo survivor team, but it's a lot harder. It's not only about balancing though, the ranking system can also really screw up the solo survivor experience, since players of very different skill levels can all play at rank 1.

Agreed. I have a lot of fun solo.

Good to see. I'm pretty sure many people who played solo survivor are still playing, it's still plenty of fun. However longer queue times of killers can not be ignored, to me it's obvious that one of the next changes needs to be a buff to solo survivors. Also nerf camping, I feel like I'm saying that in every post I make. It's just even as a killer main I'd much rather get gen rushed by a crazy good 4 man swf team than get camped by any killer. Such a frustrating strategy to deal with, yet can be so effective for killers even though it doesn't take any real skill.

@Master said:
ad19970 said:

@altruistic said:

Solo play is garbage.  It doesn’t surprise me seeing 3-4 man SWF teams every game of Killer I play.  

Really? Despite the disadvantages of solo survivor I still find playing solo survivor very enjoyable.You know as long as you don't get camped, but that's on the devs to finally nerf camping. i find you can still do really well even as solo survivor team, but it's a lot harder. It's not only about balancing though, the ranking system can also really screw up the solo survivor experience, since players of very different skill levels can all play at rank 1.

Camping will always be a thing as long as looping is so powerful 

I don't see how the one has anything to do with the other. Looping is just a way for survivors to survive longer, what the hell are they going to do otherwise?
While camping is just standing in front of the hook just to get a kill the easiest way possible. Killers can still just play the game normally, but survivors can't just ignore looping. It's what buys their team time and lets them survive for longer. Obviously there are a few maps that have too many safe pallets and not enough mindgameable pallets, but that's just flawed map design. Thanks to the pallet density nerf, I feel like killers definitely seem more powerful now, even M1 killers, even though they can still struggle quite a bit.
Also looping a killer for quite some time takes some skill, camping doesn't. Not at all.
If killers need any help against long looping, it's finally nerfing gen rush so that killers have a bit more time to deal with survivors. However before they nerf gen rush they need to nerf camping.