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Anti-Tunnel Basekit
It's appalling to know that you can be tunneled out of a match in less than three minutes if you don't equip Decisive Strike. Why is there no anti-tunnel in the survivors' basekit? I understand tunneling can be rectified and advocated for in some scenarios, but is it really necessary in the first minute of the match?
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Having the current DS base kit is not what is needed. That would be just another band-aid fix and a 5th perk for killers they would have to worry about, not to mention how powerful that would be in the endgame.
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play killer and you won't be tunneled out of a match
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Use DS and just run. 60 sec is same. It is just matter of your playstyle. Got it?
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DS should be base kit for survivors and Ruin should be base kit for killers in all honesty.
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You can still get tunneled out even with DS equipped. DS is not this god-tier perk that will guarantee your survival, so making it "base-kit" won't fix things. If a killer wants to tunnel you out, they will tunnel you out; there's really nothing you can do but learn maps, how to loop, and how to evade the killer.
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What if, and hear me out, every now and then a survivor just learned to evade a killer?
I mean without using a perk to make it happen. What if a survivor tried learning some game skills?
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Yes, I should just play better and evade the killer. It is completely my fault that he spots me when I'm unhooked and goes for me.
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And that's the problem I'm addressing? Does BHVR really want matches to last 3 minutes long for some people? Or do they not care as always?
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I never said to have DS base kit specifically. I'm open to other options.
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The game's core design would have to be changed then, but I don't think it is possible to fully get rid of it. I think you can only encourage other playstyles.
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Yeah, that's what this game is, a killer is trying to kill you and your goal is to survive. If spotting you is all it takes to hook you, why do you think you should survive?
Try running, juking, looping, dropping pallets, vaulting, evasion, stealth... Sometimes a survivor will even trick a killer. Sometimes a team will give a killer someone else to chase. It's not my job to ensure you live, it's the opposite. Sorry for playing.
Tunneling is allowed, it's cheap but it's not cheating. Learn to beat other players or you lose, that's just how games work.
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Honestly, before you blame killers, I think there needs to be bigger punishments for bad unhooks. IMO, BT is one of the biggest crutch perks in the game; it lets survivors make really, really bad saves, and they never learn to make good ones. So when they aren't running BT, and someone gets downed, they scream tunneling. Like, dude, the killer didn't unhook you 10m from themselves. Your team did. Survivor is a team game, and sometimes your team sucks. A killer isn't supposed to just let someone go free, especially when survivors make a mistake. Yeah, there is legit tunneling, but once you get good, DS doesn't actually stop that much. They will eat the DS and chase again, or you become strong enough to loop them the minute DS would have been active. DS is way more a 'second chance' perk than an anti-tunneling perk, because it doesn't actually prevent killers from hooking the person most recently hooked, which is what tunneling would be.
So, you know, look at each game you get 'tunneled', and figure out how often it was a bad teammate unhooking you with the killer too close (But not camping), or if they unhooked you safely (Not counting BT for stupid saves), and the killer just stopped what they were doing, came from across the map, and targeted you. For this, another survivor looping near you or hiding near you, and the killer standing between you and them is not camping. For some reason, a lot of survivors will tell you this is camping. If someone is on the hook, and chasing someone nearby, that is the survivor who they are chasings fault; you don't loop near hooked survivors. (For some reason, I see this #########, even at red ranks) If you see a survivor keep hiding near you when the killer clearly knows they are around somewhere, and they are looking, that is not camping.
Once you look at all this, figure out how often you ACTUALLY get tunneled. Assuming you don't engage in toxic behavior like clicking or t-bagging. Once you get past like, yellow ranks, actual tunneling is not that common. It is usually just a killer playing how killers should and punishing bad unhooks.
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