DS but let us TAP a generator

Too lazy to do it, but someone should make a meme of a wounded survivor working on a generator with the killer coming for them, and put the caption "This is not objective progression", like in that "This is not a pipe" painting.

Back to the original point -- as others have said, I think the idea is that the survivor is supposed to have to choose between risking the gen or risking themselves. I don't think there was really meant to be an option where we didn't risk anything, which is why DS was changed.

I almost never play with DS, so my normal unhook procedure is to hobble off to somewhere safe and try to get healed. If I choose instead to run to the regressing gen in front of me and start repairs, I realize that I'm taking a big risk -- the killer might come back and down me again. But that's a choice I get to make, based on what I think will ultimately help my chances to escape the most. I can also decide to tap the gen and run away, if I think I have enough time to do it. Again, the risk/reward decision is up to me.

IMO, running DS shouldn't change the way you make those decisions -- it should just help you in a situation where you don't get to make the decision at all, because the killer's right on top of you again before you have a chance to run away.

But there is also killer context in the big picture. A lot of the time I do really try to not tunnel but sometimes survivors get unlucky or they start pushing it.

Sometimes the team makes a bad play or sometimes your whole team dissappears and unfortunately you run into me 30 seconds later. I can't ignore you.

It's one thing to intentionally tunnel someone but it's another when you make a mistake or a bad play so your punished for it.

On the matter of gen tapping, it's your own fault for doing it and it's your fault if you get downed for it. If your so worried about your ds then the simple solution is don't gen tap.

If they are switching aggro then they arent tunneling and DS isn't meant to be used against them. You chose a perk that wouldn't benefit you that round. It sucks, but it had been abused aggressively for far too long and now it has been made for it's intended purpose.

It's among one of the most ignorant reactions I've seen to a change in any game I've played.

@Raccoon

If I don’t reply it is simply because I have no desire to continue a conversation with players who are obviously biased towards one side that no matter what is said, they can’t even for one second forget which side they main.

None of what you said in that reply applies to what I was talking about. None.

We’ve gone from one extreme “abusing DS” to the other “You can’t heal for 1 second or touch a gen for 1 second” or you lose your deactivation timer. It would have been more meaningful if they actually address the core of the problem why this perk was even changed to what it is now.

Meanwhile, Tunneling Camping and Slugging remain the same. Same a usable actions with no downside whatsoever, but sure let’s keep on adding more conditions to DS. What’s next? Playing a certain character deactivates DS, oh no I got a better one, spawning in the map deactivates DS. Yeah that one ought to do it.

"now"? That was his rhetoric the entire time from what I saw. He's like a broken record, spouting the same nonsense over and over, hoping that by repeating himself enough he'll manage to convince any of us

@Raccoon

Unlike you he brings up some good points that add to the conversation.

So the only resorting i see, is you trying to piggyback off of someone else’s comment in an effort to have a mind of your own.

For sure.

I'd imagine more people will be rocking passive heals and Resillience, too.

It took 4 years to finally balance this perk

Deadhards turn

Sluzzy can i ask you a question? Have you ever tried the game mode where you can play as a killer? You should try it sometime, it can be fun.

There are a ton of perks in the game. I can use what I want. But killers play scummy. There I said it omg! Its the truth. Survivors do gens killers go off the rails and say we were toxic, but we aren't. We have nothing to do and with no obsession the killer can play tunnel city. I'm ok with different play styles such as this but it does get boring when all matches are like this back to back. Now survivors are also toxic with the dang flashlight clicking and the tea bagging, I get it. But dont complain about anything if you act like this. All in trying to say is, with the rise of tunneling will come the rise of toxic survivors

Thank you for your time

See you in the fog :)

"But tapping doesn't progress the game it shouldn't count!"

Surprised he didn't use the "tap into an insta-heal shouldnt count as healing it only took half a second" as an excuse yet

no.

Then don't just blindly kick gens when theres quite obviously survivors nearby waiting to tap it. Be smart.

Gen kicking is actually a highly effective tactic IF you use it correctly. Kick gens in situations where you can either protect the gen or guarantee it won't be touched for a certain period without forcing a survivor to go out of their way to tap it.

Some people don't reply when they know that their childish counter argument will get ripped to shreds. Or they can't comprehend complex argumentation. No idea who you posted to tbh.

Oh pls don't make him leave his co.fort zone and maybe get a epiphany and see the light. He might get a stroke, argument rationally and suddenly we lose our main excitement on this forums 😂

Ds was only useable once, i dont see why people thought it meant everyone would escape instantly. I gwt the nerf, but gen tapping is possible during chase, therefore, you could still be tunneled during it.

Came back to read the promised reply/explanation after being tagged earlier today....

The results did not surprise :(

1 second is too little. Thats kinda pointless.

But that begs the question as to why you would do that, knowing full well that a single frame can be the difference between you getting away from the killer and getting downed. I know when I'm being tunneled I don't worry about gens, I worry about going from vault to vault and pallet to pallet. My team can handle the gens.

Nope. Losing the ability to gen tap is the price you should have to pay for using this perk effectively. It's bad enough gen tapping takes so little effort to stop regression that takes the killer considerably more time to even get started.