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The Shape rework idea

LiunUK
LiunUK Member Posts: 944
edited April 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

so i am a big fan of the Halloween franchise and Myers is and will always be my favorite killer but i think we can all agree that his power has become outdated as time has gone on. the survivors skill, strategies, maps and the perks have all evolved in a way that Myers can barely keep up against semi competent survivors who have played for more than 100 hrs.

i know he will probably get an addon pass in the near future as he has an odd amount of addons (3 commons and 6 uncommon) but i thought it would be fun to create a version i would like to see whilst keeping the theme of the current Myers.

you can find the current version of his power here https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Michael_Myers


here is my version of Myers


base stats

24 meter terror radius

4.6 m/s

Myers no longer has 3 stages of evil within he simply starts at what is basically evil within 2 whilst evil within 1 has become an alternate ability.

Evil Within rule changes

there is always an obsession in the trial when the killer is the Shape regardless of perks and addons

there is no longer a stalk limit instead when a survivors stalk aura turns red, Myers will stalk them at 50% speed

stalking the obsession will always be at maximum efficiency regardless of range.

SPECIAL ABILITY: Stalk

Press and hold the Power button to stalk all visible Survivors. Stalking Survivors builds up your Evil within resource meter after reaching the maximum amount required evil within activates and begins to deplete the resource. while evil within is active Myers gains these effects

  • survivors suffer from the Exposed status effect
  • lasts for 45 seconds at base
  • 32 meter terror radius
  • slightly increased lunge range
  • moderately faster vault speed
  • moderately faster pallet/generator breaking speed

i simply added the faster breaking speed to help give that unstoppable feeling he should have when pursuing you.


SPECIAL ABILITY: Suppress

after gaining enough power through staking press the alternate ability button to consume a portion of you stalk meter to gain the Undetectable status effect for a duration.

  • costs 25% of the total resource meter at base
  • lasts 20 seconds at base
  • Myers can stalk while suppress is active
  • suppress can be activated during Evil within
  • upon activation this sound will play globally
  • Suppresses duration can be refreshed by holding the ability's button when the effect would end this prevents the global sound que from playing (so if you stalk efficiently you can permanently stay undetectable)

this way at any point during a match Myers can just appear out of nowhere with evil within active and just destroy a survivor and makes him able to deal with aura reading which hurts him a lot.


Perks

i think STBFL and PWYF are in a good place but there is one perk that only ever becomes strong when you are already winning and there are way better alternatives so here is my idea for it


Dying Light:

you become obsessed with one survivor

each time you hook a survivor other than your obsession you gain a token

each token reduces the obsessions repairing, healing, unhooking, sabotaging and cleansing speed by 2/2.5/3%

when the obsession is on the hook the effects are doubled and applyed to all other survivors if the obsession dies all current tokens are lost.


i think this will make dying light able to be an effective late game slowdown perk and can be combined well with other perks like nemesis but the killer has to be careful not to kill the obsession off.


Addons:

Common

  • Tacky earnings: start the trial with 15% of your stalk meter filled
  • Boyfriends memo: slightly increases the duration of suppress (3 seconds)
  • Blond hair: slightly increases the duration of evil within (6 seconds)
  • Glass fragment: slightly increases the amount of evil within gained when stalking the obsession

Uncommon

  • Reflective fragment: stalking a survivor for 1 second reveals there aura for 2 seconds
  • Memorial flower: slightly decreases the cost of suppress (3%)
  • Jewellery: start the trail with 25% of your stalk meter filled
  • Hair brush: moderately increases the duration of evil within (12 seconds)
  • Dead rabbit: moderately increases the duration of suppress (7 seconds)

Rare

  • Mirror shard: stalking a survivor for 3 seconds will reveal the auras of nearby survivors (8 meters)
  • Judith's journal: considerably increases the amount of evil within gained when stalking the obsession
  • Jewellery box: start the trail with the undetectable status effect for 30 seconds.
  • J. Myers memorial: moderately decreases the cost of suppress (5%)
  • Hair bow: considerably increases the duration of evil within (18 seconds) slightly reduces stalking efficiency

very rare

  • Vanity mirror: when stalking a survivor your aura is revealed to them if the survivor has you on screen your stalking speed is increased tremendously
  • tombstone piece: replaces Suppress with Murder. when a survivor would be sacrificed upon being hooked press the alternate ability button when in range of the survivor or in front of a locker to kill the survivor
  • Scratched mirror: disables the ability to activate evil within, when stalking reveal the auras of survivors within 32 meters. (note you are always a 4.6 meters killer at base and you can still use suppress)
  • Fragrant tuft of hair: unlimited evil within upon activation moderately reduces the duration of suppress (5 seconds) suppress effect can no longer be refreshed and has a cool down of 15 seconds

ultra rare

  • Judith's tombstone: replaces suppress with murder. when a survivor is fully stalked and has a red aura press the alternate ability button when in range of the survivor or in front of a locker to kill the survivor moderately decreases the shapes movement speed. (this way you don't have to worry about Myers stalking other survivors and just killing you when you have not seen him all match he has to have stalked you)
  • iridescent mirror: gain evil within when survivors are looking at you caps at 99% (so you can activate it when you want)


i would like to hear you feedback on these ideas i had fun thinking of them.

Post edited by Mandy on

Comments

  • AiresBattleblade
    AiresBattleblade Member Posts: 25

    I have never heard of anyone saying myers is weak. Also the suppress ability just makes him more powerful for not much reason. If you play jump scare myers, you have to build and work around that, if not you build around teir 3 myers, giving him the ability to swap between them makes him a wraith with a powerbar who can activate NoED at will.

  • zombitehdeath
    zombitehdeath Member Posts: 587

    This is really good, I wish I could do this.

    Most of the add-on are pretty good (especially the iridescent) but I do have my criticisms which is that scratch mirror should be 4.4 ms just to be fair.

    The power itself is a good improvement on his power and I hope the devs see this.

    Thanks for reading

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 944

    i never said he was weak but most people say he is out-dated as ghost face is just a better Myers

  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 944
    edited April 2021

    he loses the ability to activate evil within which makes him just an m1 killer at that point which is strong but only on certain maps if you get blood lodge with the current scratched mirror you automatically lose also he is not inherently undetectable he has to stalk and then activate his suppress which has a global sound effect when first used so all the survivors know its a Myers

    thx for the feedback though

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited April 2021

    Um hes currently the contendor for weakest killer. Dowseys said it,otzs said it. Hes only saving grace is his bs addons like tombstone. Starts at 105% taking 20 seconds or more consecutive stalk to get out of it. No map pressure,no anti loop. Weak af addons (brushes,earings, vanitys mirror). The games evolved so much since he came out hes powercreeped to all hell.

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  • LiunUK
    LiunUK Member Posts: 944

    i remember when he first came out. so many people saying he was broken because he could one shot people with just an m1, simpler times.

  • konochivu
    konochivu Member Posts: 146
    edited April 2021

    Myers is still better than trapper/trickster in my opinion. If you're playing with a mirror you have to bring an indoor map offering otherwise you're wasting addon slots. Infinite tier 3 is still a thing, so yes. The only thing that should be reworked is his tier 1, it shouldn't be his hindrance.