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Extremely Frustrating Match (Rant)
Just got out of a match with 4 very good Survivors.
I was playing Demo, with a fun build and they took me to the Asylum. They managed all 5 gens in under 5 minutes. I got two downs.
They were extremely good. I lost fair and square and I accept that.
However, I felt like there was no possible way for me to win the match from the get-go. I even recorded it and went back and looked to see if I messed up anywhere. There wasn't a single thing that I could see that I did wrong.
I lost because I had no way to deal with what they brought to the table, nothing I could have done would have mattered.
They also taunted me the entire game, constant clicking, t-bagging, hovering ect ect. Got some fun and insulting messages post-game too. The one guy who was reasonable told me they were all together and he apologized for his friends, so that was nice.
But yeah, I'm thinking about quitting DBD for a bit after that one. Losing and feeling helpless and like nothing you did mattered is one thing, getting it rubbed in your face for 15 minutes after is another.
tl;dr ######### toxic people
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I feel you after a few matches like those the game gets tiresome. I’m always impressed when someone tells me they only play killer and for multiple hours. I have deleted this game a while ago to make room for other games and just enjoy browsing the forums to see what’s new or people’s opinions.
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When survivors reach a certain point of knowledge and skill, I truly believe there isn't much you can do as killer. Especially when they're a SWF. Luckily there's not a great many survivors out there that reach this skill level, but SWF certainly gives them a huge boost up on the ladder. Taking a break from this game really is just necessary at times and that goes for both survivor and killer players.
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Even if you think you didn't make mistakes I can absolutely 100% gaurantee you you did at some point. That said, Demo is one of the many killers that is extremely weak against an ogranised team/SWF.
Those matches are rare but they happen, don't let it get to you. Just drop a GG and move on.
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It's sad but that's how DBD is for both sides when faced with opponent that bring all the advantages to average match. It's not necessarily toxic to do so as long as they're not rubbing it into your face (which they are far more often then not) but that doesn't make it any less frustrating.
I usually quit for the day when I had a match like this. But I like DBD a lot overall so I always return and forget about the bad games and insted focus on the good ones.
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True. The survivor equivalent is playing against a pubstomping god Nurse as a solo player.
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The only mistake I saw myself make was not dodging them.
I played every tile to the best of my ability, I left people when they went to a strong area and I protected a 3-gen.
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I deal with at least one of these matches every night.
I only play for one hour a day, and I always play nice, even if my killer choice may not reflect that.
Every time, I think to myself, "I'm gonna be toxic right back," but then I hit one guy on the hook once and then get on with not slugging, camping, tunneling, or avoiding the sheer amount of BMing going on.
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An organised SWF with full meta perks and a large map is something that even otz or true would lose to so don't feel bad man.
Just understand that even the devs know and have stated that at the top there is a massive balance issue against SWF teams at that level and you just can't win those games.
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They were not hacking, they were just very good at the game.
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And yet, there's been little done to prevent those games from happening.
Is this what they want high MMR to look like? I don't think I can play those guys every single day.
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I know it's garbage that the devs have literally admitted it on stream and pretty much said they don't care about it because most players aren't at that level.
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Maybe you just aren't as good as you think you are. Red rank=/=red rank. Those 4 sound like true red ranks. They knew what they were doing like one would expect EVERY red rank does. Meanwhile there is a ton of survivors AND killer in red ranks, that simply don't belong in there. Killers with noed who camp their first hook, survivors who just crouch around the edge of the map with no clue how looping works etc.
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Just pick a killer that has more potential for skill growth and skill ceiling, so far I haven't ever felt helpless with blight as his power strength near directly scales with skill level, if you pick a killer with a limited toolset and limited development there isn't anything you can do against good teams since they simply don't have the tools to keep up
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Doubt it. Not only have I not dropped out of Red Ranks since May of 2019, but that was only the 2nd game people escaped through the Exit Gates against me in 2021. The other game was versus the same people.
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I would, but the queue's are like 20 minutes.
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Guess it's a shame that I play on Console.
No Blight, Huntress or Nurse.
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There is always a way to win, @Pulsar . ALWAYS a way but not always the "fun" way against survivors. That is the problem with how the game rewards you depending on which side you're playing. You have to draw out the game a bit too long to win as killer but also get punished for killing too fast. You take too long and you might end up giving too much leverage for survivors to do the objective without any real threat. You do too fast and they get a ######### match and you still depip for the trouble. Slugging is necessary and sometimes even face camping a final hook to ensure an easier match is a necessary evil, even when frowned upon. That's the essence of this game.
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Then why TF u complain? LMAO
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My 2000 hours tells me I've put too much time in already, might as well keep suffering.
Besides, who will argue for Console Optimization if I'm gone
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I feel yah :< I had two of those matches last night. Also playing Demo which isn't my strongest killer. Im rank 7 and I went up a against nothing but red swf.
I did my best and it was whatever. On the last match one was a ttv so I went to the steam and they were talking smack and laughing at me...I just shook it off and signed off for the night but it really does feel bad.
I'm just trying to have a fun time but I go up against people who take this game way too seriously... I wish I could play with like minded people like myself ;_;
At the end of the day you just gotta do your best and try brush off the bad games. I also think this is a big reason people avoid playing killer... get taunted when you don't play well enough, and get yelled at when do play well.
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Those are fun. It's only happened a couple times to me but it's really an eyeopener at just how strong a killer can be at top level and same for survivor squads.
There really needs to be better ways to distinguish players like that because those curbstomps suck for everyone.
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I'm well aware of the different ways to win.
I am simply stating that I've reviewed the footage and there was not a way for me to have pulled that game back.
It took me forever to get a down, and by the time I did get it, 3 gens were done. 2nd down and all the gens were done.
I tried switching targets, not chasing in certain areas and every trick I know. Didn't help.
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I know the feeling man
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because they matched against someone who knew what they were doing and absolutely obliterated them, and I stood no chance.
I can only imagine what they do to people who are average Red Ranks.
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Spirit
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I don't condone the taunting. However, it's a video game. So, I don't expect to face mature people very often. You just need to let it go and not pay attention to it.
As for the gameplay, when you play a non-meta killer with a fun build, you run this risk if you match with a full sweat team. I know, because I do the same. The matchmaking doesn't account for it. We all know the deal.
However, I remember you said not long ago that you couldn't remember the last time a survivor escaped against you. It's kinda surprising, to say the least, for someone to say something like that and then being so upset at having had a single bad game while not even going into it with a sweaty loadout.
Edit: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2127035/#Comment_2127035
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I'm upset for myself because of the taunting post-game.
I know the game isn't balanced for people like them. I know that. I can deal with it.
It's when these people go above and beyond to not only BM in the game, but outside of it too. I feel like ######### because I lost a match and felt like there was no possibility of a win. I do not need 3 people bombarding me with messages telling me how much I suck and how trash I am to further solidify my mental state.
But what really pisses me off is that if they did this to me, who (hopefully) does know what they are doing, then what in the actual ######### have they been doing to people who just got to Red Ranks?
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So what? You expect to ALWAYS 4k every game? Get real. They were better than you, but they probably also don't win 100% of their games (as you claim you do yourself as killer). Think of them as the survivor equivalent of yourself.
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That's fair.
I've got a hearing issue, so I've stayed away from Spirit for that reason, but I might give her a shot.
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I'm sorry mate. If they are a full swf and gen focused and not really making mistakes I don't think there is much you can do, especially with demo.
If an automatic loss to teams like this when they come up isn't acceptable to you then you might have to play spirit forever just in case they turn up (spirit being the most realistic choice on console)
But that's boring. Once you're sure you've got one of those teams just dick around. Don't mindgame, follow their path completely including vaulting every window, go for only shred attacks even when they're impossible - they want to stomp you but they want you to have played to the best of your ability. F that, if you were playing chess and your opponent replaced half their pieces with queens before the match started would you take it seriously?
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No, I do not expect to 4K every game.
I do expect to have a chance to though, just like Survivors expect to have a chance to escape every game.
Like I've said previously, I know the game isn't balanced around people like them. It's the BM and the fact that they've bullied other people who are average boosted Red Ranks.
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People get cocky when they can hide behind a monitor and a keyboard. Literally every game I played online had toxicity. Just move on to the next match, or close the game and do something else that you enjoy. Really, those people don't deserve your attention and energies.
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Those "average boosted red ranks" should't play with or against those people anways if we would be honest. A boosted red rank would normally be a green or purple rank at best.
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I play on Xbox, so I would have to get off to avoid them.
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if hearing is an issue make sure to run a perk like predator instead of a perk like stridor, scratch mark tracking is still pretty strong and it makes it so easy to see them
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True.
One of them linked me a vod of them against the person with the #1 most Oni downs, where he ended the match with 1 Kill on a favorable map.
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I've used Stridor before and it helps me hear normally, so I'll probably keep using it, but I might try out Predator too.
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Most my killer matches have sucked today. But that's just how it goes sometimes.
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I suppose so.
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I wrote this yesterday in another thread, but I'd like to reiterate it here:
I've been playing for about a month and just wanted to play a relaxed match yesterday. I'm actually always nice and never play unfair. I play different killers, just whatever I feel like. So I took my Hag (level 22) and went into the match. And soon I realized that I had no chance. Every chase was useless, four generators were finished after several minutes and they also made the totems all fast. Then I was lucky enough to lift someone off the ground, and was immediately blinded. I don't mind that, it's part of the game. But they quickly realized that I'm absolutely not on their level, so they started to screw with me and ran around in front of me with flashlight-clickedickicklack.
There was one gen left, but I was fed up and just wanted the match to end quickly so I could move on to the next one. So I just let them do it and backed off. But instead of doing the last gen, they chased me and kept messing with me. They kept running ahead of me, trying to pick up blood points for the chase because everyone chose 100% bonus as the sacrifice. I didn't go for it because I don't see myself as their blood point donor. At some point, I guess they got fed up themselves and made the last gen. Then they started looking for me again until they opened the gates. Of course they still stood at the gate until shortly before the end, but I certainly didn't go there again.
The best comes as well known to the end: In the chat, one of them still wrote that he was sorry that they were all so toxic. Of course, they were all red ranks, three with rank 1. I was stunned how someone can put you down like that, steal 15 or 20 minutes of your time, and then have the gall to apologize afterwards.
If I, as a rank 11 killer with a month of game time, notice after a few minutes in a match that I'm playing against someone who isn't as good or has even less experience than I do, then I can expect a rank 1 survivor to notice that the killer is far away from his own skill level. And if he then decides to play toxic, he doesn't need to come up with excuses afterwards.
I've had a few matches where it ended up being "unfriendly" from the opponent (Huh, for example the one time I used Noed), but this was the worst and most toxic match I've played so far. I know that I am not good. I don't have many perks and I don't have much experience. Maybe it's my own fault if I show up late to the party after 5 years. But I can walk out of the match with my head held high, even if I gave up against this group, because I never play unfair. I don't care if I have to let everyone go from time to time, as long as I still have fun and get something out of the game. And people like that prove that you can be a bad player despite skill.
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I had a very similar game this weekend as Oni. I play a lot more survivor than killer (I'm rank 8/7 survivor, I think 14/13 killer atm) and I only have green perks with Oni, he's about lvl 20 - I'm also still getting the hang of using his demon dash.
This game, 2 gens popped in the first two minutes and I had hooked one survivor - while I was chasing and downing the second, the next 3 popped - I've literally never seen it happen faster, it must have taken 5 minutes maximum.
I got my power twice in that time I think, and that was with an add-on that made it gain quicker. I charged for the nearest exit gate and they were all there and just left.
I'm on console and I honestly wondered if they had been hackers. They were purple rank survivors with typical perks and didn't all have BNP and good toolboxes so if they weren't hacking they were just super efficient. I swear one guy I didn't even see the whole game.
So I definitely feel your pain and it was a boring game - but you know what? They must have had a boring game too. The majority of the time they all spent in the game was sat with their finger on a button and pressing another button every so often and then leaving. Who finds that fun? That made me feel a bit better at such a humiliating defeat (though these guys weren't being toxic at all tbf).
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Most killers lack the power to keep up with good survivors. In matches like that you should just try to get as many BP as you get. A demo can not deal with high efficiency players.
Survivors are almost always stronger when used by highly skilled players.
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"I even recorded it"
Could you post it? I would like to watch it.
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I wish people weren't so rude all the time. When I play in a swf I get heated and complain a lot but I don't think I could ever do something mean and purposefully go out of my way to insult someone because of a game. The few times I am mean is when they threw it at me first, a couple of sweet, victorious teabags before an escape even if the killer isn't there to see them before I leave. I hope you have better matches when you return from your break and that rude players can mature past being obnoxious for attention. Have a good break and stay safe :)!
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That's why I don't imagine it's very exciting for such groups. I can deal with getting only red rank-swf groups as opponents (as long as it doesn't happen all the time). Most of them are also quite nice, as well as fair and they sometimes feel sorry for me when I had to play against them, but if they just want to screw you, they can continue to be bored the whole game.
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I'm not quitting. I said I was thinking about it due to the overwhelming toxicity I faced.
Not only that, but I clearly marked this as a rant, which would indicate that it isn't going to be rational.
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Sometimes I had games like that too, sadly it is just how it is. At a certain level the killer regardless of how good will lose cuz the balancing is not well enough of the game to compensate your skill in streangth against survivors. I recommend to take a break and play something else. Just get over it and forget it, dont focus on that too much.
Sadly that is something you will eventuelly come across as Killer, and you have to deal with it.
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Can i see that VOD?
Would be interested to see that #1 Oni player.
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Because I'm allowed to.
If you didn't want to read what I had to say, you shouldn't have clicked.
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Yeah, I'll post it on your wall once I find it again.
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