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Who do you think is the most balanced killer.
Title pretty much.
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Oni or Blight. Both provide a fair bit of counter play while also being strong killers who can secure kills. Usually in these match ups, the better team wins.
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Any killer who has a good shot at beating really good 4man survivor team as long as the killer plays extremely well.
From my own biased view I consider Deathslinger quite well balanced, any change to him can either trash him or make him overpowered.
He's a chase specialist that's so good at one thing that he needs disadvantages at everything else which balances him out. Amazing slinger can beat even the best of survivor teams while bad one can be looped for 5 gens. That's a well balanced killer in my eyes.
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I think Oni is the most balanced killer right now.
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It's hard to generally answer that considering all killers besides nurse and spirit are map dependant. Assuming its coal tower, for example, with balanced rng? Then blight.
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Spirit /s
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I’d say my top 5 would be
- Oni has counterplay even when in his power but is powerful enough to where he can win most games
- Blight is very balanced anc counters holding W but his exploits and add ons are kinda annoying
- Huntress besides hitboxes is perfect. Not sure about those flight speed add ons aswell
- Billy needs a few buffs but is otherwise perfect.
- Wraith needs some of his add ons changed around but is great now
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Blight, can be countered if you know what you’re doing but is still very capable of beating even 4 man swf consistently
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Billy before rework. Idk why they changed him. Though... They obsessed with that line. At least thanks that it's not the gasoline which should be recharged in lockers.
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Honestly I would say the same. Blight is strong and feels powerful but at the same time as a survivor it doesnt feel like you are just gonna lose the second its a blight
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Spirit
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Really a lot of people tihnk of him to be quite weak. What makes you say trickster
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Oni without topknot is probably the perfect example of what a killer should be balance-wise imo.
I would say Blight too, but he can still 180 around things, removing his one and only significant counter which is small loops, and his add-ons are pretty absurd.
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I would have said blight, but with all the Z flick shenanigans, his balance is now out into question.
At this point Oni is truly the most balanced
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oni blight and nurse
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Oni, Blight, Plague, Wraith, Huntress, Billy. In that order.
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Spirit
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Blight
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It’s a toss up between Billy and Blight. Billy because he is still as strong as he was if you are good with Billy. He’s got one of the highest skill ceilings in the game and has reasonable counterplay for both sides. Blight too as he is a very strong killer, probably in the same tier as Nurse and Spirit, but unlike those two, he has counterplay.
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Huntress, Billy or Oni.
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I agree. Oni and Blight are the most balanced to me too.
I love being against them. I also like to play Oni, even if his power is still a bit hard to use for me.
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Nurse, Oni, Deathslinger and Blight. All take skill to play.
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I'm sure a lot of survivor mains will argue with me but I say Nurse. My reason being is her high skill ceiling. Yes she breaks the game when played at god tier but that person practiced their ass off to get to that lvl. Your not going to pick up Nurse and start 4king actual red survivors. IMO the majority of people who complain about Nurse actually suck at the game. ALL they know how to do is loop and when that 1 trick doesn't work they scream OP! Good survivors know she is really strong but she can still be beaten. You need to put a lot of time into her to get that good. I think of Nurse as a good Widowmaker player in overwatch. In that game unless your really good at sniping you are almost dead weight for your team. If you put that many hours into that character you deserve your spot.
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Oni
S tier in blood fury, D tier without, so bang in the middle imo. Ghostface could be a contender for most balanced. Power is strong but fragile, and he's abuseable.
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Oni, PH, Plague
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Old Billy
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In my experience, Huntress. I rarely play against one who's bad, but I also rarely feel like I have no chance against her. My dodge rate against her hatchets is pretty high but I've certainly taken some wonky hits.
I see a lot of people say Oni. I wish more people would play him, I like him but hardly ever see him at all.
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I dont agree with this simply because something being hard to play doesnt mean its balanced. If there was some super complex puzzle that would have to be extremely precise but made whoever did it instantly win would be bs, Just because something is hard to do doesnt mean its fair and thats my opinion on Nurse.
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So someone who practiced a lot at something shouldn't be good at it? Should we make Wayne Brady play football with 1 arm tied behind his back to give other quarterbacks a better chance?
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I disagree, deathslinger is on the more brainless side of the spectrum. You can quickscope and if the survivor doesn’t dodge you can shoot, reel, and get a hit, if you don’t shoot the survivor dodges for no reason and loses distance
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I guess Huntress or Billy.
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Quickscoping does take skill to pull off.
Also all survivors lose distance against every Killer (except nurse) if the killer doesn't use their power because Killers move faster than survivors.
You can not like facing Deathslinger, but he's far from a brainless killer.
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I have played Nurse since 2016, you literally break line of sight with nurse and you literally make it a guessing game, if your staring behind you and turn a corner you are obviously going to double back, holding W works half the time if you just keep going behind objects, its 100% a skill matchup. With the amount of bugs she has, I literally had to play with one blink for half of my game for the last one I played because of blink bug, don't even get me started with the amount of abusable deadzones. Counterplay does exist.
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Old Billy without Tuning Guide/insta saw.
Now is the most "balanced" killer in the sense that anyone who's good at survivor can loop him for days
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I think doctor is perfect
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I always wonder about the answers. One thing is that counterplay has nothing to do with balanced. The other is that you need to say for which skill level balanced.
Normally i would assume we take the best players, so i would say nurse/spirit. But what is allowed? Iridescent addons? Survivor with keys or BNP? What i want to say is that its not that easy to say who is the most balanced.
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that doesnt make him balanced at all
people think billy is balanced because you can loop him for 2 minutes
yes, he has a VERY fun chase to go against, objectively THE most fun, but he's not balanced because his chasing power is dogshit. that means he's unbalanced, and not in a way that benefits him.
if this game were a 1v1, he would easily be the most well designed killer to touch this game. but it's not.
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Nea.
She's clearly evil, and extremely terrifying.
That said she usually dies in each game I have her in, so it balances itself out really.
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The Spirit ^^
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Bro, I got a nostalgic attack when I read your comment ...
Rip Billy :(
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Oni without Topknot, Blight, Bubba, and Old Billy without instasaw add-ons.
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I don't play Killer often at all so my perspective is obviously skewed but I really like playing against a high skill Huntress or Trapper. Both require some mind games to counter and can really demolish Survivors if you're not paired with a team who is observant and clever.
This is using the game design mindset of 2 hooked 2 escaped. Though against either of these Killers who play well it's usually no escapes or just one in my experience. 😊
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I was joking on the fact that people still put Billy among the most fun killers to play against but now he's fun only for survivors, not to play as.
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a lot of people tihnk of him to be quite weak
Pretty sure that was the joke.
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any killer you put enough time in to learn to use their power most efficiently
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a new and good matchmaking, neither killer is too strong nor survivor
the emblem system is just a joke that is why swf troops kill killers and talk about imbalance, and survivors also scream the imbalance when a good killer comes along ...
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alright i gotcha, couldn't tell. but yeah, 100%. fun 1v1s don't mean a balanced killer lol.
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spirit is the most balanced killer imo
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Oni, PH, Demo, Huntress, Hag
Probably some more but those are the ones that come to mind first.
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I just have a question to the people that say Oni has counterplay...
How do you counter Oni in a dead zone?
This is just an honest question. I ask because I can think of many killers who I believe have way more counterplay in both dead zones and structured areas. Hillbilly comes to mind.
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The counterplay is to not be in the deadzone in the first place. Thats why they are called dead zones and you want to avoid them. There is no killer that has counterplay in a deadzone. You enter the zone and you are dead.
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