Wraith needs 0 skill

S0nny
S0nny Member Posts: 13

I'm done with wraith, every single time i go against wraith its always wraith with 0 skill, they just play the hit and run playstyle and tunnel me. How does wraith require any skill, please explain i want to be proven wrong. I think i am pretty damn good survivor. Like there is no possible way to get any chase interaction against wraith, they either abandon the loop or caught you when you are in extremly unsafe loop, or complete deadzone.

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  • HaunterofShadows
    HaunterofShadows Member Posts: 4,091

    Ah yes here it is.

  • DoritoHead
    DoritoHead Member Posts: 3,546
    edited June 2021

    I don't think Wraith is overpowered, however I do agree that he is very boring to go against and he isn't very skillful to play well. However, to be the most effective at Wraith you do have to be decent at using the big lunge.

    EDIT: Also ringing the bell to bait out dead hard.

  • HaunterofShadows
    HaunterofShadows Member Posts: 4,091

    he's like the perfect new player killer so this doesn't really surprise me too much.

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    Didn't say that tho, i do get it that you have to play hit and run as wraith tho, its super boring to go against and needs 0 skill what so ever

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,800
    edited June 2021

    Can I see some of your gameplay against good survivors please?

  • Kirkylad
    Kirkylad Member Posts: 1,927

    Wraiths buffs were great from him apart from the crazy lunge, that's just to much.

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    We are in midwich, he hits everyone and leaves the chase, i get downed because he hits me while i am injured and on a unsafe pallet, i get hooked, he hits one person when i am hooked, comes back to the hook when i get unhooked, he has a choice to hit me or the unhooker, goes after me. Easy down because every pallet in midwich is unsafe(almost every pallet).

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    Can't speak much about the boring thing, but I'd argue the opposite about the 0 skill thing. I'd say you'd need a decent modicum of skill if only because you have to have decent placing when it comes to unstealthing. Because everyone can hear the bing bong go off, if you're not in the right spot for an ambush then there's a good chance the survivors can make it away safely or make it far enough to where they can wait by a stronger position where they can pallet/loop you.

  • CoalTower
    CoalTower Member Posts: 1,730

    Why does it matter of he takes skill? He's still counterable. Not even A tier.

  • HommeBizarre
    HommeBizarre Member Posts: 474
  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    I don't give 2 ######### about winning, i just want to get chase interaction, pretty much the only thing i enjoy in this game and against wraith there is 0 chase interaction.

  • CoalTower
    CoalTower Member Posts: 1,730

    So what? Some killers just aren't fun to go against for some people.

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13


    what is the point, i play dbd only for fun, and there is 0 fun to have against wraith, should i just dc against every wraith?

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    ggs, thank you for not proving me wrong

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    Ok, please don't take this as me being sassy or cheeky or anything, genuine question here. So do you expect the killer, regardless of who it is, to just mindlessly chase you if they know that either A) They're going to just waste more time chasing you across the map. B) They know where the rest of the team is. C) They managed to spot another easier target?


    I do this on everyone, not just Wraith. If I see that a survivor is purposefully just trying to goad me in to chasing them out to the middle of no where or near strong tiles, then they obviously want me to chase them and waste my time while the other 3 survivors are out working on gens. I know that chasing just one person takes away pressure from the rest and that goes against achieving my goal as a killer, regardless of who I play.

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    I've found that in general (I'm not referring to any of you here, I'm not specifying anybody at all because I don't remember names), killer mains feel protective of the Wraith because he was allegedly bottom of the barrel terrible before this recent buff, even though they also argue that the buff was hardly anything and that the Wraith is now only "barely B or C tier", etc. It's a bit hyperbolic.

    That said, a lot of survivor mains (including myself) have sometimes been hyperbolic about how godlike the Wraith feels now. I've laid out my reasons for why the character is cheap (I mean it speaks for itself really, the character is super fast, almost completely invisible, all but silent, no longer has to use the bell which was the one warning you had to get up and run, and can lunge super fast from cloaking to hit you). It all seems like a bit much. People make similar arguments against the Spirit constantly and there's often little or no argument. But I guess the Wraith was dismissed by a large portion of the community once better killers came along, and not many people want to admit that now that he's been buffed, he's incredibly cheap.

    Others can agree with me and that's fine, I'm not changing my mind and I don't aim to change anyone else's. I write this post not to argue, but to encourage you not to. The people who think that Wraith is fine or poor will continue to think so, and that's their prerogative. You and I can think differently, which is our prerogative. There's support on both sides so don't take it personally.

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    I mean i do this too, but i've played against 20 wraiths in like 2 days and i had chase interaction that lasted longer than 10 seconds against one of the wraiths and he was rank 17, and i've played against 10 or so deathslinger/spirits and i had longer chase interactions against them and all rank 1.

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    I don't know what to tell you then. Different playstyles is all I can really say. I've been guilty of doing both, over engaging in long chases, even knowing that I should've cut bait, or I'll do little mini chases just to shoo survivors away and run off and annoy another one. It's hard to really pinpoint this as one clear issue because again, from my own personal experience and from reading that of others on here, you'll get a wide range behavior from all killers. *shrug* I dunno. Either way I hope things get better for you in future games. It happens, you get paired in unfun matchups. All you can do then is just eat the poo sandwich and move on.

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    how the ######### does it take skill to look if the loop is safe or unsafe and just abandon the person and find another person out of position, and you are also agreeing that wraith has 0 chase interaction and 0 fun to go against.

  • ryzen0849
    ryzen0849 Member Posts: 143

    Certainly takes more skill than overcomitting in chase while survivors do gens

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    Thats nothing skillful tho, just smart decision which anyone with a brain can do.

  • S0nny
    S0nny Member Posts: 13

    How is it fun to go against killer that has almost 0 chase interaction, what other things makes it fun for you?

  • chargernick85
    chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171

    No not all killer mains. I have only used mine with tier 1/2 perks and yellow/brown add-ons and I still think he's A-tier. That's playing at rank 1 as well so if I had not prestiged him before the buff and had good/great perks I could not imagine. My son has been climbing up the ranks using wraith with some top perks BBQ, corrupt, sloppy and idr the last pretty darn fast and he never got past like 7 🙄 but between the lack of competition and wraith be so strong he will probably jump another spot or two. He is 13 survivors step yo game up this aint fortnite smash his ego.

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683
    edited June 2021

    I still think you're focusing on the wrong thing though which is the chase interaction. Any killer can choose not to engage in a chase with you for whatever reason. Hell, Legion's power is literally for him to just tag as many people as he can and force them to waste their time healing up. As pig I have had survivors try to force me in to a chase with them just to stall the head trap timer and I will do what I can to make sure that the chase doesn't even start. Actually there was a Steve in a game I played in once where he tried to do just that. He'd try to jump in front of me to body block or try step over the teammate I had just downed. I could hear the timer on his head trap beeping really fast and knew he was just trying to stall the timer, so I made sure to not look in his direction and make sure that I didn't accidentally chase him. Sure enough his head popped right next to me.


    You saying that you don't like how Wraiths don't want to chase doesn't mean anything other than the person playing them just doesn't want to engage in a chase at that moment for whatever reason. Again, the killer doesn't -HAVE- to chase you if they don't want to.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 6,368

    Omg i laughed to hard at fisticuffs. Now I want an old timey boxer for a killer.

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    If he doesn't have the thin curly mustache then they're doing it wrong.

  • Trickstaaaaa
    Trickstaaaaa Member Posts: 1,289

    Wraith is soooooo annoying now. I never found wraith weak before his previous buff, but now he is probably the 2 most annoying killer to go up against as survivor. And especially in map with a low number of widows or pallets.

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    Yes he does.

    If Wraith is managing free hits without approaching via LoS blockers, that’s the survivors being dumb, not a Wraith issue.

  • Ink_Eyes
    Ink_Eyes Member Posts: 561

    wraith went from zero to hero, I just added him to the ''I'm scared of being matched against a good: spirit, nurse, hag, freddy '' list. but as of late I just took freddy out of the list and added wraith to it with spirit, hag and nurse

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917
    edited June 2021

    His post stealth lunge is literally unchanged from the buffs.

  • justbecause
    justbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    Eh disagree I personally don't like wraith cuz he's annoying but he does take skills map has many safe loops where wraith has to play smart or else he ain't getting the hit it's all about mindgame either u mindgame surv or got mindgamed no between just like pig

  • Kirkylad
    Kirkylad Member Posts: 1,927

    It was changed because I watched content creators comment on it thinking it was a bug and it wouldn't go live, but it did.

  • Zeon_99
    Zeon_99 Member Posts: 463

    The hit and run playstyle has been a thing ever since Nurse came out like 4 years ago. Its just something you'll have to adapt to.

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    You probably just never saw Wraith enough to notice how strong his post stealth lunge is.

    Literally nothing has changed about it from everything I could find on it. You're just seeing it enough to notice as pretty much no one but tru played Wraith.