If that is so, then I suppose I won't be able to change your mind.

I am confident that most of the community want Old Freddy back. New Freddy is the minority.

But you may believe what you wish to believe, I cannot change that. I can only respect your opinion.

As I've said, I won't be able to change your mind, no matter what evidence I present to you. And you won't be able to change mine, no matter what you say to me.

We both think of ourselves as the "right" side of this discussion, and guess what? Maybe we are.

So, why don't we stick to my initial suggestion? Add a "toggle" option which allow us to choose between both os his powers.

Problem solved and everyone is happy.

Honestly i don't think anyone would be apposed if you could choose between either freddy. Some people loved old. some people....generally like new. Newer reworks they actually acknowledge this by not changing the killers fundamental playstyle. For instance clowns and doctors (unless ya stayed in treatment 24/7). Old freddy i Honestly had more fun being complete invis with a ability to put survivors asleep at will and see them around the map over new. Where ya put ######### on the floor over and over until you get a hit.

Well said, my friend. Thank you.

Eh, I personally prefer new Freddy to old Freddy by leagues, so I'm afraid I can't agree with you on that second part.

Not sure the devs are willing to put an entire Killer's amount of effort into re-programming in a Killer they already deleted the first time around and then re-structure the game to allow two separate Killers to co-exist as the same Killer.

You fprgot the doctor rework.

You know when he used to drive up madness by exisiting in his shocker form and didn't have a AoE nuke that raises you a level instantly.

Different thread.

Precisely. Sorry for mentioning you, but it is just something I was trying to point out.

Glad to hear it :)

it would be nice to make saving survivors more accessible to newer players without learning a specific timing and having i-frames in animations lol. its not hard to position correctly as killer or take lightborn if its an issue.

Yes, I can.

Old Legion (I'm just going to say Legion for the rest of this post, please know I mean Old Legion) has the current Spirit problem, except while she's at a 10, they've cranked it up to a 30.

There is nothing you can do vs Legion except hope and pray your teammates can do generators. Let's look at the options:

• Use stealth to never be found

Legion has tracking with Killer Instinct, so all it takes is one slip-up from one member of your team and the plan falls apart at the seams.

• Use stealth to escape a chase

Deep Wounds would tick down outside of a chase to make this impossible. While it could be possible with the current iteration of DW, as it ticks down when running then moving crouched/walking to escape makes this still impossible- Lucky Break is the only hope you'd have.

• Perform a juke to make them miss a swing and buy more time to reach another loop

Legion has no cooldown to their attacks, and so can swing when they want.

• Stun them with a pallet and make distance

Legion respects the pallet and gets a free hit with their power by vaulting (as they can use their power whenever). You greed, they catch up with their power and down you (as they move faster than Modern Legion).

• Vault a window for distance

Legion vaults right after and gets a hit.

Legion has no counterplay inside of a chase, and the only counterplay outside of a chase is to split up and hold M1, which is both incredibly boring and never happens in solo because nobody seems to know how to repair a generator. The 3 people who do know always seem to 3gen.

Legion should never return to this state, they were unhealthy for the game and releasing a killer like that was the 2nd worst decision BHVR have ever made in regards to DBD.

Were this to be the case, then they would have to make it cancel the current animation and play immidiately into the drop animation. You must understand, however, that was not what it did. The pickup animation was also 3x as long as it is currently.

Freddy was completely changed for good reasons, his old power was full of bs mechanics. Complete invisibility, unlimited aura reading, inability to interact with awake survivors... He was the personification of the phrase "You can run, but you can't hide", which works great in movies but sucks in a game.

All of his mechanics were perfectly balanced, except one of them. I could prove it to you, but I would need a time machine.

The Nurse part was perfectly fine. The flashlight/pallet stun was the busted tho.

Maybe they were balanced, but still were considered not fun by the majority of the community.

It's not quite that simple as adding clocks like they are now still wastes lots of time so it would still be a huge slowdown as its something that needs to be done.

Come across multiple survivors you effectively slowed the game down by an large amount due to rng or making them wake up.

That would be a similar mechanic to the pig but you can chose when to do it if it's not active, it doesn't slow down the actions in the same way and she still has to chase someone and down them before that can take effect.

Always take into consideration when buying any dlc that these can and do change for the sake of the game itself.

It does not work like that. I thought the exact same thing when Legion got changed: "It is fair, the EULA confirms it".

Until they ruined my main.

Never thought I would see someone complain about aura reading, but here we are.