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Survivor is unplayable now

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  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @skvirl said:

    @Malakir said:

    Whatever makes you happy my dude

    Seriously, I can't tell if you're joking or not. I basically said he's trying to make "density" sound like a hard concept, when it's not. It's very simple and common knowledge. And you backed me up on that...I think? It was kind of hard to get what you were saying, since I'm guessing english is not your first language....(?)

    Let me help you out, Sheldor.
    He is mocking you.
    And it is pretty funny, that you don't get it.^^

  • KiraElijah
    KiraElijah Member Posts: 1,187
    @only1biggs don’t hate on the almighty @Orion
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @skvirl said:

    @Orion said:

    @skvirl said:

    @Wolf74 said:
    @skvirl Are you new to internet debates? For real, calling someone "coward" just because he refuse to talk to someone? Some people are stubborn and impervious to logic and reason, after the Xth time explaining the same things to them, you just talk "around them". You can't hinder them to participate in a debate you are in also, but you can refuse to interact with them directly without leaving their nonsensical statements unresponded.

    He's completely free to not interact with someone. If you read my comment without putting words into my mouth or twisting it to fit your narrative, you'd see that I'm calling him a coward because he is talking about someone to other people, like this someone is not there. This is called rude, childish and cowardly behaviour. If @Orion disagrees with someone, he is free to do so. He is also free to ignore whoever he wants. What I find silly is that he feels the need to tell everyone how he's ignoring this person because he wants more people to join his cause. If he acted like an adult, he would just ignore and not try to gather more people to his "crusade" or whatever it is he's doing.. If I don't like someone, I will ACTUALLY ignore them, and not bring them up and call attention to how I'm ignoring them any chance I get. You know, like an adult.

    The last part of your comment describes pretty accurately how you act on this forum. You can't be talked around either, you just turn to memes every chance you get. It's pretty obvious what you're doing, and I'm not really falling for the bait. Have fun.

    Go find those examples of me talking about it, please. I have almost 5000 posts, so there should be a lot of them, if your complaints are to be believed. Go prove yourself right, show me the percentage.

    What? How old are you?! You sound like a petulant child. I never talked about percentage, what are you on about? You've talked about this several times, in several threads. Also, you just admitted, in this very thread, you've said it several times. Why do I need to find these posts? I mean, I would if I had to, but like I said, you just said I was right. Or are you going back on it?

    Are you trolling?

    I said I've said it "a few times", you said I do it "so many times [you]'ve noticed a pattern". So no, I didn't say you were right. Hell, you even said that I say it to "everyone" and try to get people to do the same. I mentioned it to @Malakir after he came to the same conclusion, and not before. I was agreeing with @Malakir; not trying to influence his opinion.
    I don't even mention the person you're talking about (or any other person I ignore, in fact) by name. This is in contrast to you and the guy you're defending, among others, who will actively try to influence people against me.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,668
    edited December 2018

    @The_Crusader said:
    Ok so had a game of survivor now for my daily. I knew I was in for a bad game when the survivors in the lobby didn't correctly know how certain offerings worked.

    Killer was the spirit. She got 2 hooks in about the first minute. I unhook both then the killer comes after me. I looped her for absolutely ages. Around the shack, to the asylum, inside the asylum, out and in again.

    Know how many gens were done? Not a single one. In high rank 3 would have popped easily in that timeframe.

    I get a yellow toolbox and start rushing gens. We get a few done but then those other survivors start dropping likes flies again. I do my second gen and give the Spirit a tour of loop town again. Gen progress is still slow. 1 person gets eliminated.

    Now another gets hooked but I'm busy rushing the last gen. We get it done and 2 of us manage to make it out of the exit gate. I never went down that entire game.

    Now here lies the problem and the problem is the ranking system.

    I'm not going to blame those other survivors. They were obviously new to the game and didn't yet know how to play the game well. They made poor decisions - an example being a nea got saved with borrowed time and bill ran trying to take hits for her anyway. He wouldnt leave her. Survivors always do this. This let the spirit get 2 down together. Again it's not their fault. We were all new once.

    You can imagine how frustrating this is for me though someone with much more experience. I feel like I'm doing most of the work. I loop the killer but they barely do gens. So I do gens but they go down in 10 seconds. I want to play with people on a similar skill level to me.

    Then we imagine how it was for the Spirit. Another novice DBD player with only 1 perk - Rancor. She couldn't catch me at all while I alone looped and juked her and cost her the game. We've all been there when we started playing, looped all game. It's not a nice feeling at all. That person deserves to play with people on their own skill level.

    As killer if I get reset to low rank I can quickly rank up and play with people with a similar skill level to mine. Its very easy to get 2 pips too.

    However as a survivor its harder. Because its not about my skill anymore, its about the skill of the team. Some survivors just go down in about 10 seconds. They die so fast that almost every game becomes a long, dull hatch camp. Plus its harder to score. You need unhook points but theres 3 people all fighting for the unhooks, or theres killers camling which stops you.

    I think the monthly reset needs to go. Unless you plan to put in the hours to rank up each month you'll always be reset at low ranks - and low ranks is just not fun. You feel frustrated by killers who camp because theh don't know any better, or survivors who struggle to last long in a chase because they don't have much experience with the game. It's such a chore to level up because again your team goes down so fast that its mostly one long hatch camp after another. Plus as said before it's really awful for the killers, having that one person survivor who obviously has far more hours on the game than you do and so you can never catch them.

    The conclusion of all of this:

    It's too easy to rank up as both survivor and killer.

    People are artificial raised up to ranks they shouldn't be at and that's why the ranking system is still flawed.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Blueberry said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Ok so had a game of survivor now for my daily. I knew I was in for a bad game when the survivors in the lobby didn't correctly know how certain offerings worked.

    Killer was the spirit. She got 2 hooks in about the first minute. I unhook both then the killer comes after me. I looped her for absolutely ages. Around the shack, to the asylum, inside the asylum, out and in again.

    Know how many gens were done? Not a single one. In high rank 3 would have popped easily in that timeframe.

    I get a yellow toolbox and start rushing gens. We get a few done but then those other survivors start dropping likes flies again. I do my second gen and give the Spirit a tour of loop town again. Gen progress is still slow. 1 person gets eliminated.

    Now another gets hooked but I'm busy rushing the last gen. We get it done and 2 of us manage to make it out of the exit gate. I never went down that entire game.

    Now here lies the problem and the problem is the ranking system.

    I'm not going to blame those other survivors. They were obviously new to the game and didn't yet know how to play the game well. They made poor decisions - an example being a nea got saved with borrowed time and bill ran trying to take hits for her anyway. He wouldnt leave her. Survivors always do this. This let the spirit get 2 down together. Again it's not their fault. We were all new once.

    You can imagine how frustrating this is for me though someone with much more experience. I feel like I'm doing most of the work. I loop the killer but they barely do gens. So I do gens but they go down in 10 seconds. I want to play with people on a similar skill level to me.

    Then we imagine how it was for the Spirit. Another novice DBD player with only 1 perk - Rancor. She couldn't catch me at all while I alone looped and juked her and cost her the game. We've all been there when we started playing, looped all game. It's not a nice feeling at all. That person deserves to play with people on their own skill level.

    As killer if I get reset to low rank I can quickly rank up and play with people with a similar skill level to mine. Its very easy to get 2 pips too.

    However as a survivor its harder. Because its not about my skill anymore, its about the skill of the team. Some survivors just go down in about 10 seconds. They die so fast that almost every game becomes a long, dull hatch camp. Plus its harder to score. You need unhook points but theres 3 people all fighting for the unhooks, or theres killers camling which stops you.

    I think the monthly reset needs to go. Unless you plan to put in the hours to rank up each month you'll always be reset at low ranks - and low ranks is just not fun. You feel frustrated by killers who camp because theh don't know any better, or survivors who struggle to last long in a chase because they don't have much experience with the game. It's such a chore to level up because again your team goes down so fast that its mostly one long hatch camp after another. Plus as said before it's really awful for the killers, having that one person survivor who obviously has far more hours on the game than you do and so you can never catch them.

    The conclusion of all of this:

    It's too easy to rank up as both survivor and killer.

    People are artificial raised up to ranks they shouldn't be at and that's why the ranking system is still flawed.

    I agree with that.

    I think its easier for killers to rank up faster. So they get put very quickly against survivors who have more playtime than them.

    I also think swf rank up quickly too - because they stick together and dont get shafted by other survivors disconnecting like solo players do.

    So yeah it all ends up in a jumbled mismatch. Add in monthly resets and it becomes unfair.

    DBD is a weird game. You have 1 person looping the killer for 5 gens or you have 2-3 people going down to a tier 3 myers in the first minute.
  • Zarathos
    Zarathos Member Posts: 1,911
    The_Crusader said:
    Blueberry said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Ok so had a game of survivor now for my daily. I knew I was in for a bad game when the survivors in the lobby didn't correctly know how certain offerings worked.

    Killer was the spirit. She got 2 hooks in about the first minute. I unhook both then the killer comes after me. I looped her for absolutely ages. Around the shack, to the asylum, inside the asylum, out and in again.

    Know how many gens were done? Not a single one. In high rank 3 would have popped easily in that timeframe.

    I get a yellow toolbox and start rushing gens. We get a few done but then those other survivors start dropping likes flies again. I do my second gen and give the Spirit a tour of loop town again. Gen progress is still slow. 1 person gets eliminated.

    Now another gets hooked but I'm busy rushing the last gen. We get it done and 2 of us manage to make it out of the exit gate. I never went down that entire game.

    Now here lies the problem and the problem is the ranking system.

    I'm not going to blame those other survivors. They were obviously new to the game and didn't yet know how to play the game well. They made poor decisions - an example being a nea got saved with borrowed time and bill ran trying to take hits for her anyway. He wouldnt leave her. Survivors always do this. This let the spirit get 2 down together. Again it's not their fault. We were all new once.

    You can imagine how frustrating this is for me though someone with much more experience. I feel like I'm doing most of the work. I loop the killer but they barely do gens. So I do gens but they go down in 10 seconds. I want to play with people on a similar skill level to me.

    Then we imagine how it was for the Spirit. Another novice DBD player with only 1 perk - Rancor. She couldn't catch me at all while I alone looped and juked her and cost her the game. We've all been there when we started playing, looped all game. It's not a nice feeling at all. That person deserves to play with people on their own skill level.

    As killer if I get reset to low rank I can quickly rank up and play with people with a similar skill level to mine. Its very easy to get 2 pips too.

    However as a survivor its harder. Because its not about my skill anymore, its about the skill of the team. Some survivors just go down in about 10 seconds. They die so fast that almost every game becomes a long, dull hatch camp. Plus its harder to score. You need unhook points but theres 3 people all fighting for the unhooks, or theres killers camling which stops you.

    I think the monthly reset needs to go. Unless you plan to put in the hours to rank up each month you'll always be reset at low ranks - and low ranks is just not fun. You feel frustrated by killers who camp because theh don't know any better, or survivors who struggle to last long in a chase because they don't have much experience with the game. It's such a chore to level up because again your team goes down so fast that its mostly one long hatch camp after another. Plus as said before it's really awful for the killers, having that one person survivor who obviously has far more hours on the game than you do and so you can never catch them.

    The conclusion of all of this:

    It's too easy to rank up as both survivor and killer.

    People are artificial raised up to ranks they shouldn't be at and that's why the ranking system is still flawed.

    I agree with that.

    I think its easier for killers to rank up faster. So they get put very quickly against survivors who have more playtime than them.

    I also think swf rank up quickly too - because they stick together and dont get shafted by other survivors disconnecting like solo players do.

    So yeah it all ends up in a jumbled mismatch. Add in monthly resets and it becomes unfair.

    DBD is a weird game. You have 1 person looping the killer for 5 gens or you have 2-3 people going down to a tier 3 myers in the first minute.
    Quick fix add end of season rewards for high ranks. A small number of irirdescent shards at the end of season that increases depending on the highest achieved rank or end of season rank. This incentivises players to rank up and maintain their rank. 
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