General Discussions
General Discussions
Tunneler, camper, tunneler, tunneler,...
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100k+ just on Steam and at least double on consoles playing now so it looks pretty good
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Me 4.000 hours, but this game as solo is trash now. Killers know camping and tunneling is the easier way to 4k against solos. And I found it 99% of matches in Easter Europe server
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Well you could always play killer instead:
Gen rush, DC, DC, gen rush, gen rush, death threats, gen rush, ...
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Probably, they don't seem to care about stopping it
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then play killer
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My very first game as Huntress: two people randomly disconnected during the first 15 seconds. I didn't even meet them. I downed a Survivor: they disconnected.
OK. I found the fourth and gave them the hatch. What an impressive first game.
New DC tech for being sure not to be sacrificed? 🤔
(And I was only running BBQ. Survivors, think about the stacks! I think about your WGLF stacks by hooking.)
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Yes some killers do tent to tunnel.
But have you asked yourself why the others do it when they usually never do it? 😉
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It really is almost every game that killers choose to camp and tunnel. I even run BT and take hits and try to block to force the killer to hit me and I play solo. There's just nothing you can do to help your teammates if a killer chooses to tunnel a person out of a game, and most do. And then they complain about gen speed.
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I’ve been playing since this game appear, but now it’s impossible to have fun as solo
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I'm just doing it for the crowns.
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No it is not, I still have fun
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It's funny to me though. Killers will just focus on one person for so much time and when they see that that 2 or 3 gens pop they blame survivors for gen rushing. Maybe learn when to break chases and not spend so much time on one person. That's your own damn fault.
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As if a DC remotely would bother the killer, it only makes the game easier beyond extremely niche conditions. Not to mention you're giving a reason that fuels their argument, not yours.
Gen rushing is a rarity as most games have a solo or two in them at the very least. A great SWF can still be beaten by camping them out since they'll camp the hooks with you in most cases.
I get twice or triple as many blood points on killer and generally have a far more enjoyable time doing it compared to solo queue.
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Killer won´t get full stacks or full hook points when someone DCs.
Gen rushing happens like during every single red rank match.
I usually get the same amount or more points than the killer as red rank solo survivor. Survivor is far easier and not as sweaty as killer (at least on red ranks).
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This is the problem as I see it stuck in red ranks.
I am not a good survivor or killer but killer is my main role. I try to play fair to begin with, not tunnelling or camping but I get outplayed often by t walls, places with strong loops and the like, although I can mindgame shack a lot. A lot of red rank players are good loopers, too good for me but it's far too easy to rank up as killer and too hard to de-pip. I try to get a couple of pallet drops then break chase if I feel the need to and go elsewhere, especially if discordance pops..
Now, when you start hearing gens pop all over and you get to 2 with all survivors alive, especially if not many hooks have been had, someone needs to go by any means necessary, I will still try not to camp though. However if I'm in a chase and see someone on last hook at one remaining gen I will change my target, even if they have just been unhooked. I will always camp after last gen has popped. The only other times I will tunnel and possibly camp but not always is a toxic player, clicky flashlights, t-bagging all the time etc.
Those who tunnel and camp, or even slug, at 5 gens I never understand. Oh and basement bubba, how that is fun is beyond me lol
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This year i´m not caring that much about the crowns as last year. I mean, i sweated last year to get the crowns on every killer + all the original survivors. But then i realized, that i never equipped the crowns. So why bother this year?
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Yes, people disconnect left and right because there is no penalty. Even though, i think some could be random crashes. The game was REALLY unstable since the event started.
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You're not getting a stack, but they would have had to leave so early into the match that you're guaranteed a victory with no sort of gen rush possible with only three survivors.
That isn't true in the slightest. I play on red ranks where half the matches are slow and easy to deal with as they're potatoes.
As a killer I'm getting twice as much as you after the game with Barbeque whereas WGLF isn't worth running in most circumstances as getting four stacks won't always happen.
Honestly, you make killer sound so rough, but it's not at all. I recommend anyone to give it a try, it's not so bad and you get far more rewarded if you lack a group to play with.
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You don't have to do much on killer. The way I go about it is:
- Locate crown (nothing else exists or matters until I find it)
- Pick up crown (duh)
- Play more or less randomly until all the survivors are gone (in one way or another)
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Can we please trade survivors then as the gens in my match pop all over the place lol. I downed a survivor earlier today and between downing and hooking 3 gens popped and this was roughly around 2 minutes into the trial.
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Good survivors still can pull off an escape. Even when 1 disconnected. It won´t happen always, but it still is possible.
What you say isn´t true in the slightest. Most of my solo survivor matches have 4 gens completed by the time the killer got 3 or 4 hooks. I can even prove it, with the hook counter.
Survivors can equip WGLF and as i said, i earn as much, if not more points than the killer. Double bloodpoints not being worth it... suuuuure!
You make survivor sound rough. When its estabished, that survivors are the power role.
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Took me 3 matches to get the crown on Legion.
- despawned several times before my eyes
- game crashed
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That's just bad luck, it can happen to anyone.
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Are they the power role?
The killer has the power to just ruin the game for 1 survivor by camping or tunnelling them out the game.
Coordinated survivors can delay the inevitable but if the killer wants one survivor out the game it’s pretty much guaranteed and there’s not much you can do about it. Survivors have no where near that much power.
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Against any killer worth their salt, they will lose in a 3v1. Survivors are only the power role when the group is good and coordinated; most are not.
If the killer only has three hooks while a group has done four generators, they're playing poorly and not equipping a better setup/build. Yes, killers can make mistakes, yet nobody wants to admit that.
WGLF isn't always worth running compared to BBQ. If it was, why is it such a rare perk to notice in normal gameplay? Because you can't guarantee four stacks as you can with BBQ unless you go out of your way to unhook multiple survivors when you probably should have finished or done a generator for your team.
Survivor isn't rough in a group because you can rely on your teammates. In solo play, I can get players of varying skills with differing objectives set to where it's comparable to a perk roulette.
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The people that slug from the beginning are trying to generate pressure early so they dont end up in that situation youre talking about. If you down a survivor and know another is close you should always slug. At the very least hit the other survivor once and go get your hook
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In my experience, survivor mains don't have a clue what tunnelling looks like.
So many examples from killer sides where they didn't tunnel but get accused of it anyway. Cases where survivors accuse killers of tunnelling multiple survivors at once...
Just because you got hooked, doesn't mean you were tunnelled, you were probably just the closest/most obvious target.
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Survivors can ruin the game for 1 killer by gen rushing. They sure as hell are the power role. Everyone who plays both sides on high ranks knows that.
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Survivors set the pace of the game from the start. In the situation youre describing if everyones doing gens and not being pressured 4 gens wilk be gone by the time that survivors out. This isnt a 1v1 game. Its a 4v1. Yeah, 1 survivor is out and theres 3 escapes. Not very good.
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A survivor group that is worth their salt, can and will manage to turn around a 3v1. Doesn´t even need to be a SWF group.
Killers don´t need to play poorly to only get 3 or 4 hooks. Happens even to the best streamers.
WGLF is on my basekit. I always use it, when i have it.
Survivors can also rely on their teammates when playing solo. Sure, some teammates are terrible. But once you get used to not taking things personally, its great.
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I got nothing against killers tunneling and camping when it necessary
but when you continue to tunnel the same survivor off the hook twice, you have no place to complain about gen rush.
you are actively ignoring the very thing you are constantly complaining about.
some killers have got to learn to pick their battles, swallow your pride and let that good runner go and go and protect your gens.
because that’s what the best killers do.
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That’s assuming everyone is coordinated. If you’re talking about the average solo game then you can pretty much guarantee that your teammates will dance around the hook as you get camped.
To get a guaranteed win against a camper you need all 3 survivors on separate gens, in all my time playing solo survivor I don’t think I’ve seen such a feat before. Again with SWF it’s a piece of cake but we’re talking about solos here.
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I've always wondered how every solo survivor on this forum has nothing but camping and tunneling games when I don't seem to get them all that often and I wonder if your post is why.
I play both sides mostly equally (probably a 60/40 split killer favored) and it's amazing how many survivors froth at the mouth in rage at me for tunneling/camping when I did no such thing. The survivor in question has such a tunnel vision that they didn't see all the stuff I did as killer before I ran into them again and therefore the only thing I clearly did was tunnel them after I walked to all the other gens, kicked two of them, couldn't find anyone so I go back to the hooked area where the injured survivor is currently working on the nearest gen and so I smack them...
Tunneling and camping absolutely do exist in this game but to loop it all the way back, I wonder if people saying they get it every single game just have such a crazy loose definition of both that a killer just playing the killer role is by default a tunneler/camper. But I suppose short of having everyone record everything, there's no way to tell if somehow I'm just insanely lucky dodging all these unsporting killers or if survivors are just kind of ignorant on everything a killer does and just assumed they're tunneling because they were found first the second/third time.
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Tell me more about how often and common three solo queue players manage to beat one of the best killer players than from a DC from start to finish.
WGLF is inconsistent unless you're throwing games in some matches by rushing the hooks when you should have been on generators for your team. It's not a bad perk, but you're not getting four stacks every single game like BBQ.
You can't rely on your teammates in every game, and that's the point. Solo is considerably worse than killer because you never know what you'll be getting. Dying on the first hook is very common for an experience in solo.
Survivor is the easier role, but playing as the killer is better than most solo games.
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Survivors being dumb does not stop that from being the power role. Like I said, survivors set the pace of the match. If all your teammates are idiots and not playing, THEY are determining that its going to be an easy game for the killer. The killer didnt make them dumb and mess around. THEY chose that.
I play solo all the time, other red rank survivors tend to not screw around in my experience. I also play killer in reds, it doesnt work most games. You dont need comms if everyone knows what theyre doing
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Here we go with more 'The Killer is toxic if they try to win in a way Survivors don't approve of' posts.
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yep
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Wow, what a major contribution you have made to this thread by making that comment
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Why yes, yes I did. Thank you for noticing.
What? Am I now expected to meet some Survivor main quality check before I post on the forums now, too? Some of y'all really do treat Killers as second class citizens.
What's next? If I meet a Survivor main in the grocery store, I'm supposed to pay for his groceries?
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Never claimed it happens always. Also, why do you start with 3 solos managing to beat the best killer players? Apples and Oranges? The best survivor players loop even the best killers for 2 or 3 minutes. When the other survivors aren´t idle, then thats enough time to gens. So whats your point exactly? Does it happen every match? No and i repeat, i never claimed that. Is it possible? Sure!
Since WGLF stacks are so easy to get, a 4 stack is almost always possible.
Can´t remember the last time i died on my first hook.
Playing killer is better than what? Survivor is easier, more relaxing, not as stressful as killer. Because survivors have each other, there are 4 survivors, tons of second chance perks that all allow for a comeback.
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I've been getting a good amount of people DC at the start of the game. Not rage quits, just, boom as soon as we load in. That's why the penalty is off - the game is unstable. I've been disconnected a few times myself with errors.
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*Don't like the map*
*Don't like the killer*
*Don't like the offering and want revenge*
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Or the game is really unstable right now, which is why the penalty is off. And do you think survivors are the only ones DCing? The last four people that DCed for me were killers.
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I don't get disconnected during a game more than usually, but I am on PC, peasant platform builds might be more unstable. Didn't keep track of early DC'ers platforms so I can't say if it is the case.
But you are clearly underestimating how weird people are. A lot of people were disconnecting for the reasons I stated when there was no DC penalty, and their numbers grew in the same proportion as the one of ragequitters, so I don't think that the majority of early DC's now happen because of game instability.
I don't get why you brought killer vs survivor clash here, did I assume that survivors are the only ones who DC? Where?
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Because you don’t play in Eastern Europe servers
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There are Eastern Europe servers?
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Well, Cyrillic writers :D
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Ехал Грека через реку, видит Грека - в реке рак, сунул Грека руку в реку, рак за руку Греку - цап
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How many of those are actually able to play the game though? When the RE hype dies down it will drop back down.
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It's a boring strategy, but it's a fair strategy.
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